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Messy laws
I've been reading this line, and have replyed some, but it's been about my own
garden, but I want to tell you this, not all lawn services are bad, I know for sure, how? because for 12 years I ran my own one man service in Los Angeles and I covered from the Glendale foothills all the way down to Long Beach. Most times, when someone hired me, their lawns where a total write off, dead and deader comes to mind. And unlike most other services, I would follow the following routine: 1. mow what there was as most of them had been left to grow and die. 2. water ground all day with soaker hose to get it ready. 3. uses 3 tag fork to punch hole in ground while watering, walking over whole area. 4. hand broadcast steer manure over lawn and just wet it enough to keep from blowing away. 5. depending on type of lawn and time of year, I might reseed with short rye grass or just promote grass there. 6. After about 3 months of that care, I would broadcast by hand one bag of slow feed ferterizer. 7. using a small spray bottle I'd attack weeds with a spot spray of roundup. Most of these yards where such that kids would be runing acorss them or in areas of poor soil. Some of them the people had used lawn feeds but never steer manure. I take great enjoyment in knowing that the lawns I cared for where green year round and that any flowers by them also grew and bloomed more than they had ever done before and that any Roses on them put on shows of blooms like they had just been planted. During the last days of my operation I lived in Ramona in San Diego area and the homes I did where ones for sale and the reator had me doing the lawns to green them up and belive me, that was a major operation as there was zero top soil and just screaped sub-dirt and weeds didn't even care to grow. But for the price they paid me, I got grass to grow until the house sold. And now that I've unofficaly have gotten going again with the care of two yards here in the park, my old past skills will be used again. -- In This Universe The Night was Falling,The Shadows were lenghtening towards an east that would not know another dawn. But elsewhere the Stars were still young and the light of morning lingered: and along the path he once had followed, Man would one day go again. Arthur C. Clarke "The City & The Stars" SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Bishop's Car Fund http://www.bishopcarfund.Netfirms.com/ Starlord's Personal Page http://starlord-personal.netfirms.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/03 |
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Ok, now you have me curious. What is the difference between steer
manure and just plain old bs? (sorry, couldn't resist I am serious, tho. I used (once) manure from a local farm and completely killed my patch of grass. It's starting to come back (2 years later) and looks like it needs to be fed, but I don't want to repeat the error. Is there something specific I should ask for rather than just grabbing my shovel and heading out by their barn? On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 11:36:30 -0700, "Starlord" wrote: I've been reading this line, and have replyed some, but it's been about my own garden, but I want to tell you this, not all lawn services are bad, I know for sure, how? because for 12 years I ran my own one man service in Los Angeles and I covered from the Glendale foothills all the way down to Long Beach. Most times, when someone hired me, their lawns where a total write off, dead and deader comes to mind. And unlike most other services, I would follow the following routine: 1. mow what there was as most of them had been left to grow and die. 2. water ground all day with soaker hose to get it ready. 3. uses 3 tag fork to punch hole in ground while watering, walking over whole area. 4. hand broadcast steer manure over lawn and just wet it enough to keep from blowing away. 5. depending on type of lawn and time of year, I might reseed with short rye grass or just promote grass there. 6. After about 3 months of that care, I would broadcast by hand one bag of slow feed ferterizer. 7. using a small spray bottle I'd attack weeds with a spot spray of roundup. Most of these yards where such that kids would be runing acorss them or in areas of poor soil. Some of them the people had used lawn feeds but never steer manure. I take great enjoyment in knowing that the lawns I cared for where green year round and that any flowers by them also grew and bloomed more than they had ever done before and that any Roses on them put on shows of blooms like they had just been planted. During the last days of my operation I lived in Ramona in San Diego area and the homes I did where ones for sale and the reator had me doing the lawns to green them up and belive me, that was a major operation as there was zero top soil and just screaped sub-dirt and weeds didn't even care to grow. But for the price they paid me, I got grass to grow until the house sold. And now that I've unofficaly have gotten going again with the care of two yards here in the park, my old past skills will be used again. |
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"Dane Bramage" WhereAmI@anyway? wrote in message news Ok, now you have me curious. What is the difference between steer manure and just plain old bs? (sorry, couldn't resist I am serious, tho. I used (once) manure from a local farm and completely killed my patch of grass. It's starting to come back (2 years later) and looks like it needs to be fed, but I don't want to repeat the error. Is there something specific I should ask for rather than just grabbing my shovel and heading out by their barn? You probably threw your bs from the local farm on your lawn when it was too fresh. It burned it. If you decide to fertilize again with bs make sure it's well aged (two to three years old and a decayed dark brown color). John |
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The trick is that it has to be COMPOSTED steer manure, (same as BS). If it's
fresh and you lay it down thick, it can kill grass or just about anything. When I lived in Ramona, I had a truck load dumped in my yard and even it had been sitting for a year, then slowly I built a pile of it mixed with grass cuttings. The 2nd year down there I started using it. BTW, I always HAND broadcast the stuff, fill up buckets and do it throw it around, this way it gets spread out and not heaped in one area to much. Then I water. I normal did this 2 or 3 times over a one month. The main thing about steer is that it helps feed the mircos that are in the soil. Now those new homes with nothing but bear dirt, them I'd just dump a load on the front, spread it around and water, the next week I'd dump top soil on it and water, 3rd week I'd rototill them together. 4th week I'd lay down grass seeds! 3 months later I'd mow for the first time. But the steer has to be OLD, composted or at lest a year out in the weather. -- In This Universe The Night was Falling,The Shadows were lenghtening towards an east that would not know another dawn. But elsewhere the Stars were still young and the light of morning lingered: and along the path he once had followed, Man would one day go again. Arthur C. Clarke "The City & The Stars" SIAR www.starlords.org Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Bishop's Car Fund http://www.bishopcarfund.Netfirms.com/ Starlord's Personal Page http://starlord-personal.netfirms.com "Dane Bramage" WhereAmI@anyway? wrote in message news Ok, now you have me curious. What is the difference between steer manure and just plain old bs? (sorry, couldn't resist I am serious, tho. I used (once) manure from a local farm and completely killed my patch of grass. It's starting to come back (2 years later) and looks like it needs to be fed, but I don't want to repeat the error. Is there something specific I should ask for rather than just grabbing my shovel and heading out by their barn? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 4/18/03 |
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"Dane Bramage" WhereAmI@anyway? wrote in message
news Ok, now you have me curious. What is the difference between steer manure and just plain old bs? (sorry, couldn't resist I am serious, tho. I used (once) manure from a local farm and completely killed my patch of grass. It's starting to come back (2 years later) and looks like it needs to be fed, but I don't want to repeat the error. Is there something specific I should ask for rather than just grabbing my shovel and heading out by their barn? As others have posted, the manure should be composted, or at least aged. There is also often a high salt content in manure from barns and feed lots so the lawn should be watered deeply after applying the manure. As to the differences, some charts showing the nutrient content of organic fertilizers will list cow manure and steer manure separately with different NPK ratios. In a large, modern dairy, cows are fed a diet to maximize milk production. Feed lot steers are fed a different diet, usually including corn, to speed up growth and weight gain. BS would be different from both of the others because bulls are kept as sperm donors and the diet would emphasize sperm production. So the NPK from might be different for all three but not likely to be enough to see any difference on a lawn if it is composted before use and watered in after application. Olin |
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In our clay, we use a fence post auger machine with a 4 inch drill bit
and drill down 3 feet, pack column with organic fertilizer and compost. Holes can be any distance from each other. -- = J. Kolenovsky, A+, Network +, MCP =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.celestialhabitats.com - commercial =F4=BF=F4 - http://www.hal-pc.org/~garden/personal.html - personal webpag= es |
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