Black walnuts
 

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Black walnuts
 

In article ,
wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

My dad would drive his car back and forth to crush the shell. I like
black walnut brittle. Be aware that the dye in those shells is potent.
STAIN BIG TIME

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Gypsy moths do not have nests just troublesome egg clusters. Name
skips me but perhaps EASTERN TENT CATERPILLAR

http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef423.asp



Yours, John Desmond

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Black walnuts
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:34:12 -0400, wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

Dry them, then separate by hand, if they didn't fall out naturally.
http://www.extension.umn.edu/yardand...404blkwal.html
http://web.extension.uiuc.edu/champa...rs/991002.html
http://www.bigredcouch.com/journal/a...k_walnuts.html


Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?


Call your local Department of Food and Agriculture and let them deal
with the problem.



--
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Mae West

Black walnuts
 

Black walnuts
 

wrote in message
...
Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Whatever they are...propane torch or flame weeder - that's what my dad
always did.

Black walnuts
 

In article ,
"dejablues" wrote:

wrote in message
...
Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Whatever they are...propane torch or flame weeder - that's what my dad
always did.

Another choice is to cut the branch with the nest and burn it on the
ground.

Black walnuts
 

In article ,
wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Good advice on the waiting part.

We had 2 ways to clean the husks off. One was to lay the nuts down in a
single layer on our gravel driveway and drive over them repeatedly for a
couple weeks and then put all your small children to picking the nuts
out of the gravel. You then have to actually open the nuts. Very Very
Very hard nuts. Almost as bad as hickory to crack.

The other method my dad came up with after he ran out of small children
was too do small batches in a old cement mixer he had. That worked
wonderfully at getting the hulls off. He also rigged up some kind of
press to crack the nuts. This was amazingly accurate and he often got
very large whole pieces out of the nuts. No idea what this press was or
if I even ever saw it. My dad was a welder and machinist so he likely
invented his own thing.

Black walnuts
 

Black walnuts
 

At this time of year the walnuts are starting to shed their first shedding
of leaves. These tent caterpillars are not injuring the tree at this time.
Most of the leaf activity has been coming to an end.
It would be different if it was in spring. Also if you goal is to help the
walnut tree I must suggest proper mulching. Maybe you could try to convince
them to properly mulch the tree and this will help the tree become
healthier.

Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

You could explain to them that the rhizosphere would do better with proper
mulching. Turf really does not help the tree much and causes more of a
problem than tent caterpillars. However DO NOT dig out the turf, the turf
roots grow deeper than the non-woody absorbing (absorb water and essential
elements from soil) of the tree. Digging out the turf will injure the tree.
Here is an article your neighbor could read. Mulch can be applied anytime
as long as it is composted for at least a year. NOT FRESH CHIPS!


Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

--
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Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

wrote in message
...
Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Black walnuts
 

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:34:12 -0400, wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?


Drive over them. A lot of hand work needed to remove the meat, and
the husks stain everything.


Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Breaking the nest open will expose the larvae to birds. Or, a
propane torch will make quick work out of it.

Black walnuts
 

In article ,
enigma wrote:

gypsy moths make nests in the spring. what your neighbor has
is autumn bagworms. they're ugly, but don't cause nearly the
damage the gypsy moth larvae do.

Bagworms are small nests resembling a large ladies earring.

There is a good photo at:

http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef440.asp

Tent caterpillars spin these things that look like a mass of spider webs
full of caterpillars.

There are good photos at:

http://www.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef423.asp

What you are seeing now is the fall webworm.

There are good photos at:

http://www.bugwood.org/factsheets/webworm.html

Also see: "Leaf-feeding caterpillars confused with gypsy moth" at:

http://www.entm.purdue.edu/GM/Trees/...ingPillars.htm



Regarding Black Walnuts. I have several acres of them and some of my
neighbors do harvest them. I recommend following the instructions posted
by the University of Minnesota at:

http://www.extension.umn.edu/yardand...404blkwal.html

Do not confuse black walnuts with English/Persian Walnuts or Carpathian
Walnuts. What you buy in the store for walnuts is English/Carpathian
walnuts. Some people in the north raise Carpathian walnuts since they
grow in colder climates and are fairly good also. Black walnuts are
edible but not as popular since they have a strong flavor. They are
mostly used in baking and not eaten raw very often.
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Kathleen wrote:
wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the "containers'',
and prepare them ?

I'd probably offer them for free to anybody willing to come and pick
them up. Removing the husk and shell is a major PITA, especially for
something that tastes the way toe jam smells.



"To each his own."

I think they are delicious--aromatic and not bitter like some English
walnuts. They're wonderful in cookies or brownies. They ARE a PITA
to extract from the shells, however, and never come out whole.

gloria p

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
At this time of year the walnuts are starting to shed their first shedding
c

You could explain to them that the rhizosphere would do better with proper
mulching. Turf really does not help the tree much and causes more of a
problem than tent caterpillars. However DO NOT dig out the turf, the turf
roots grow deeper than the non-woody absorbing (absorb water and essential
elements from soil) of the tree. Digging out the turf will injure the
tree. Here is an article your neighbor could read. Mulch can be applied
anytime as long as it is composted for at least a year. NOT FRESH CHIPS!

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.trceedictiodnary.com/DICT...igo/RHIZO.html

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
www.treedicctionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

On Aug 30, 9:08*pm, Gloria P wrote:
Kathleen wrote:
wrote:

Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the *"containers'',
and prepare them ?

I'd probably offer them for free to anybody willing to come and pick
them up. *Removing the husk and shell is a major PITA, especially for
something that tastes the way toe jam smells.

"To each his own."

I think they are delicious--aromatic and not bitter like some English
walnuts. *They're wonderful in cookies or brownies. *They ARE a PITA
to extract from the shells, however, and never come out whole.

gloria p



YES! They are delicious and like eveyone else says, a pain to crack.
My neighbor has a tree and it's like driving over golf balls as most
fall into the street. The squirrels are happy with them, though.

Black walnuts
 

"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
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Black walnuts
 

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--
You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.

Black walnuts
 

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--
You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Sure salvage logging deforestation person staples. When most tree problems
are trouble in the rhizosphere than mulching could be the answer for many
problems if done correctly. I would not expect Don Staples to have a clue.
his specialty is wood products and not tree biology. He actually says that
removing all wood and cellulose is restoration of a forest. I strongly
disagree as well as many other tree people.

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html



Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--
You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Sure salvage logging deforestation person staples. When most tree
problems are trouble in the rhizosphere than mulching could be the answer
for many problems if done correctly. I would not expect Don Staples to
have a clue. his specialty is wood products and not tree biology. He
actually says that removing all wood and cellulose is restoration of a
forest. I strongly disagree as well as many other tree people.


Your a tree person, all right, dense as a dead log. Like I said, yard boy,
Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy moth,
yard man.

A 58 day biologist, what a boy wonder.



Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treemdic tionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Mulching -
http://www.treedmi ctionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html



Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
www.trededictionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

"D. Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"D. Staples" wrote in message
yinc...

"Stephen Henning" wrote in message
...
"D. Staples" wrote:

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.

He didn't say that. He said that turf was bad for black walnut and
gypsy moth was just an annoyance. However, fall webworm is not gypsy
moth.
--
You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.
Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Explain from science how mulching will aid in the control of gypsy
moth,
yard man.

You must have missed the past few years of the yard boy recommending
mulching for every possible condition or conditions of trees.

Correct mulching is a natural requirement of trees of a forest. Do you have
any understanding of tree biology? I think not.
Don Staples has no clue as to the importance of correct mulching for the
health of trees and their associates.

Most tree problems are trouble in the rhizosphere.
Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Don Staples claims that removing all wood from a site is restoration.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm

Mulch comes in different gradations from fine organic material to large tree
trunks with soil contact. Nurse logs provide water during drought. When
trees do not have water during drought their energy reserves is reduced.
Trees with energy reserves reduced are more likely to suffer from gypsy
moths. Just one of many benefits of mulch.

Enjoy the storm Don Staples.

Other than gypsy moths and mulch comes the benefits of wood for forest
health. here is an example of what your restoration work really is:
Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim to
be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

mulch
 

Mulch when applied correctly can help trees acquire conditions for healthy
growth has they had when they got their genetic codes in a forest. Mulch
comes in different gradations. Some people claim removing mulch from a
forest is good for forest health
(http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm ). I strongly
disagree.

Mulching -
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/mulch.html

A Touch of Chemistry
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Also Don Staples claims removing all mulch from a forest is restoration?
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm
Tree Farming and Related Problems with Dons plans to remove all material.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/


Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

On Aug 30, 12:34*pm, wrote:
Salutations, gentlefolk,

Did a bit of research and found that the little green tennisballs
falling in my front yard actually contain black walnuts.

Any advice on how to seperate the edible part from the *"containers'',
and prepare them ?

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Enigma has the scoop on dehusking black walnuts; and drying them out.
I'm not sure about driving a car over them. Maybe a tank, something
with metal treads. My method was purely primitive. I had a large
stone with a round depression in which the walnuts fit. Then to work
with a good hammer, a light touch and a good pick. You quickly learn
where to whack the nut, but you'll never get clean half pieces like
with English walnuts. It's bits and pieces all the way and you wonder
a dozen times "is this really worth it?"

Black walnuts
 

You are an idiot, yard boy.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://homde.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedicdtionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim to
be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.

Show me, idiot, where I suggested removing mulch from the forest.


Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.

How can it be deforestation, when it is dead material, already deforested by
natural causes, idiot?

Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim
to be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://home.ccil.onrg/~treeman
and www.treedicdtionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Tent caterpillars - just cut off the part that is "tented," and burn
it. If that doesn't work, call your county extension office.

N.

Black walnuts
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..

"Don Staples" wrote in message
omsupplyinc...
You are an idiot, yard boy.

Don Staples - Consulting Salvage Hog
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


About you suggesting removing mulch from a forest helps forest health.

Ok, then, Don Staples. Please provide data specific to Texas that states
that your salvage and restoration work increases the health of a forest
rather
than what I state, which that is that your practice is deforestation.
Please
provide the page and paragraph number where your data can be found stating
that you increase forest health by your salvage and restoration work. You
claim I am a fraud while all along you promote deforestation. You claim
to be a consulting forester. Please consult and provide the data for your
practice.
http://www.livingston.net/dstaples/Services/salvage.htm


I provide such services to professionals, and paying clients, you are
neither, and never will be, yard boy. You have still failed to show what
you claim are my comments. So, yard boy, blow it out your ass.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting yard boy
http://home.cscil.org/~treeman
and www.treesdictionary.com
Beware of yard boys who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.
Some yard boys will buy products they do not understand and not buy books
that will give them understanding.

Black walnuts
 

On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:55:30 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
wrote:


Second, another walnut tree a few houses down has a gypsy moth nest
among its branches. *Any advice on how this investation oughta be
dealt with, and how to persuade the owner to deal with it ?

Yours, John Desmond

Tent caterpillars - just cut off the part that is "tented," and burn
it. If that doesn't work, call your county extension office.

As mentioned earlier, more likely to be Webworms this time
of the year.

I came across this nice little book on Caterpillars while
looking for something else:

http://extension.missouri.edu/explor...ts/ipm1019.htm

"IPM1019 Caterpillars in Your Yard and Garden, MU Extension"

At the top of the page on the left-hand side there was a
link to get a pdf version for free. It has pretty good color
pictures and some reference.

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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I anticipate they are delicious--aromatic and not absinthian like some English walnuts. They're admirable in accolade or brownies. They are a PITA to abstract from the shells, however, and never appear out whole.