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Palin and environment
Please help me make a decision.
Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. |
Palin and environment
"symplastless" wrote in message
... Please help me make a decision. Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. Last I looked, their intent now is not to drill on land-based environmentally sensitive areas. That is coming from the Senate republicans. The Dems, senate and house, in general, are still in a no off-shore drill mode, period. The Vice president plays a part in the senate, not the house. All legislation begins at the house. Legislation is law of the land. The President is expected to execute those laws under his/her executive branch. Some laws are not effectively executed due to personnel and monies constraints. Some are simply ignored. All the dubious changes of heart by both parties, and, their respective nominees for president and v.p. live me wondering what any of actually think. Let alone, what they will do in actuality if elected. Nevermind their past record. -- Dave |
Palin and environment
Who cares? If they need to drill for oil on your front lawn, I say,
"Go for it." |
Palin and environment
On Sep 5, 5:35 am, "Dioclese" NONE wrote:
"symplastless" wrote in message ... Please help me make a decision. Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. Last I looked, their intent now is not to drill on land-based environmentally sensitive areas. That is coming from the Senate republicans. The Dems, senate and house, in general, are still in a no off-shore drill mode, period. The Vice president plays a part in the senate, not the house. All legislation begins at the house. Legislation is law of the land. Not exactly correct. All _tax_ legislation begins in the House. Any other kind of legislation can begin in either chamber. Chris The President is expected to execute those laws under his/her executive branch. Some laws are not effectively executed due to personnel and monies constraints. Some are simply ignored. All the dubious changes of heart by both parties, and, their respective nominees for president and v.p. live me wondering what any of actually think. Let alone, what they will do in actuality if elected. Nevermind their past record. -- Dave |
Palin and environment
Frank wrote:
Who cares? If they need to drill for oil on your front lawn, I say, "Go for it." Funny you should mention that. One of, if not THE only, undrilled salt domes in the Gulf Coast Tertiary is in George Bush Sr. "back yard". It is in Memorial Park in Houston, Texas. Oil explorationists have lusted for drilling here for decades but so far they have not been allowed to do so. Hey, George Sr. could come out for breakfast every morning with his cup of coffee and monitor the situation :-). All the salt domes in the Gulf Coast Tertiary produced structures that have trapped large amounts of oil and gas. They were one of the very early exploration targets since they can be located very easily using relatively inexpensive gravity data. Another "Back Yard" is the Gulf Coast offshore of Florida. Ex-Governor Jeb could monitor this drilling. IF there are substantial amounts of OIL instead of GAS to be found in the area it is the Gulf Side of Florida. It is the extension of the Jurassic Smackover trend which has been drilled onshore Florida with fields such as Jay field being found and produced. I doubt seriously if those living in places like Tampa, Ft Myers or Naples are going to look favorably about the prospects of looking out the window of their millions of dollars condos and see offshore drilling and production platforms. |
Palin and environment
In article , Jangchub
wrote: The Palin choice is McCain saying he doesn't want the job. If they win, I will be certain the voting machines are rigged up. There is no f-ing way those two dimwits should win. She has done nothing. She's Commando Barbie. I can't stand either of them. And what the hell is clean coal. No such a thing. Victoria "If the present and the future were contingent on the past, then the present and the future would have existed in the past." -Lama Tsongkhapa I liked McCain's promise to stand beside us but not to get in our way of making our own success. Sounded like he intended to stand beside the suffering & watch 'em suffer, but don't expect him to help. And refusing to stand in front is refusing to lead. After all, when asked to define the middle class, he said "Five million dollars a year." What he knows about this country's conditions and needs wouldn't fill a spice rack in even one of his seven mansions. As for "commando barbie" (liked that!) if voters really want something like that a heartbeat from the presidency, then what a shame the devisiveness in this nation runs that deep, that it's enough to scream "no feminists allowed! get out your guns!" and that's the only thing conservatives need to hear, rationality being disavowed. -paggers -- visit my temperate gardening website: http://www.paghat.com visit my film reviews website: http://www.weirdwildrealm.com |
Palin and environment
symplastless wrote:
Please help me make a decision. Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? Two empty suit democrats that have absolutely no history of leadership, in any capacity, have been left wing democrats only equaled by the drunk Kennedy. Anything is better. |
Palin and environment
"D. Staples" wrote in message omsupplyinc... symplastless wrote: Please help me make a decision. Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? Two empty suit democrats that have absolutely no history of leadership, in any capacity, have been left wing democrats only equaled by the drunk Kennedy. Anything is better. We should outlaw all technology because it all pollutes and damages the enviornment. We should live in caves. We can't build houses of wood because we kill trees to make the wood. We can't live in tents - where are we going to get the material to make the tent? Heaven forbid we should kill an animal and use it's skin. Synthetic fabrics are out of the question. We can't grow cotton, that displaces other natural vegetation that was there first. We can't harvest plants, that disturbs the purple spotted field mouse, and we have no right to disturb its habitat. For that matter, we should just kill ourselves now. Humans are destroying the environment, and if continue to exist we will cause massive global warming that will kill all life on the planet, and then plunge us into a five billion year ice age. So let's just kill ourselves now and leave mother earth alone. All true environmentalists should kill themselves now because their existence is damaging mother earth. |
Palin and environment
"Zootal" wrote in message
... "D. Staples" wrote in message omsupplyinc... symplastless wrote: Please help me make a decision. Palin is John McCain's running mate. 1. Specifically, what has she done for the environment? What? 2. Specifically, what is she going to do for the environment if elected? Give me a specific thing she is going to do to improve the quality of the environment. Does she know the problems associated with drilling? E.g., look at problems in Pennsylvania with drilling oil and gas. http://www.alleghenydefense.org/ To say they are going to drill in an environmentally way, specifically what would be different than what they are doing in the Allegheny national Forest? Are they going to change in Pennsylvania for the environment? Two empty suit democrats that have absolutely no history of leadership, in any capacity, have been left wing democrats only equaled by the drunk Kennedy. Anything is better. We should outlaw all technology because it all pollutes and damages the enviornment. We should live in caves. We can't build houses of wood because we kill trees to make the wood. We can't live in tents - where are we going to get the material to make the tent? Heaven forbid we should kill an animal and use it's skin. Synthetic fabrics are out of the question. We can't grow cotton, that displaces other natural vegetation that was there first. We can't harvest plants, that disturbs the purple spotted field mouse, and we have no right to disturb its habitat. For that matter, we should just kill ourselves now. Humans are destroying the environment, and if continue to exist we will cause massive global warming that will kill all life on the planet, and then plunge us into a five billion year ice age. So let's just kill ourselves now and leave mother earth alone. All true environmentalists should kill themselves now because their existence is damaging mother earth. We should, we kill, ad nauseaum. You deny specific responsibility to giving same to everyone (we). Political trickery, and shaming all to accept guilt. Not acceptable. Brass tacks. The core to most of current problems is twofold. 1st is overpopulation of the earth, the 2nd is the dependency of the economic system on more of everything involved in that system. Including, more people (consumers). That is neither political party-seeking, or, finger pointing at any particular group of whatever. When people in general face that (and their means of making of living are not at risk ad nauseam some more), there may be change for the better. Otherwise, SSDD. There is nothing wrong with the existence and nature of homo sapiens. There is something wrong with the ways that current homo sapiens has adapted to deny his/her correlation with nature. People in general can continue to sideline, most news corporations motis operandi, to pointing at insignificant problems that have no real bearing. Or, see the world as it actually is... But, you know the reality of that. SSDD. Am not an Al Gore fan by any means. But, he's the only politictian that's come closest to flashing a light on the actual source of majority our planet problems. Look at the big picture and then spread out, not the reverse. -- Dave |
Palin and environment
"Zootal" wrote in message ... All true environmentalists should kill themselves now because their existence is damaging mother earth. Actually not. However changes in making decisions regarding forest health and national forest would be a good start. Rather than making decisions out of the ignorance of tree biology based solely on board foot, taking a systematic approach based on a thorough understanding of tree biology. Some of the problem is people who have no understanding of tree biology not understanding the importance of the latter. We should separate the forest from the tree farms. Suicide is not an answer for ignorance. Forest researchers should be providing sound information to practicing foresters that make decisions based on an understanding of the ecological stages of trees and their associates. Again, people that do not understand the role the different ecological stages of trees play in system health should step back and allow educated people to make sound decisions. I am sure there are other reasonable solutions for other problems with the environment. I comment on trees and their associates because that is my area of professionalism. Again, change and not suicide are solutions. Obama score card with LCV. Just one way of looking at it. 67% http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/dbq/vote...& submit.y=13 Joe Biden 67% http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/dbq/vote...lts&last=biden John McCain A big 0% http://capwiz.com/lcv_stage/dbq/vote...ts&last=mccain The republicans have a score card he http://www.rep.org/2007_scorecard.pdf -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. |
Palin and environment
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:36:24 -0700, "Zootal" wrote: We should outlaw all technology because it all pollutes and damages the enviornment. We should live in caves. We can't build houses of wood because we kill trees to make the wood. Legalize hemp for products. Georges first flag was made of hemp. Ben's kite string was hemp constitution was on hemp I believe. Hemp would help economy, create jobs, reduce taking on forest, provide high quality products. Their are solutions that we can LIVE with! -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. |
Palin and environment
Jangchub wrote:
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:12:02 -0400, "symplastless" wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:36:24 -0700, "Zootal" wrote: We should outlaw all technology because it all pollutes and damages the enviornment. We should live in caves. We can't build houses of wood because we kill trees to make the wood. Legalize hemp for products. Georges first flag was made of hemp. Ben's kite string was hemp constitution was on hemp I believe. Hemp would help economy, create jobs, reduce taking on forest, provide high quality products. Their are solutions that we can LIVE with! Please learn how to edit. I didn't say what you have me quoted as saying. I think we should legalize all drugs of all kinds including heroine and cocaine and meth and speed and crack and hillbilly heroine. It would take the puff out of it and the government can pay for ten countries health care including our own with that money they'd earn from tax. What a stupid country this is. Victoria "If the present and the future were contingent on the past, then the present and the future would have existed in the past." -Lama Tsongkhapa http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Think you're both on hemp ;( |
Palin and environment
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 15:12:02 -0400, "symplastless" Please learn how to edit. I didn't say what you have me quoted as saying. I think we should legalize all drugs of all kinds including heroine and cocaine and meth and speed and crack and hillbilly heroine. It would take the puff out of it and the government can pay for ten countries health care including our own with that money they'd earn from tax. What a stupid country this is. Victoria "If the present and the future were contingent on the past, then the present and the future would have existed in the past." -Lama Tsongkhapa http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ I do not. Hemp is not to be compared with what you suggest doing. PA farmers could grow and earn from hemp. New Holland would design better equipment, more jobs and in 10 years of legalization it would help economy. Or so they say. I do not support legalizing what you suggest. In fact I would oppose it. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Tree Biologist www.treedictionary.com and http://home.ccil.org/~treeman Watch out for so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, tornado's, volcanic eruptions and other abiotic forces keep reminding humans that they are not the boss. |
Palin and environment
I think we should legalize all drugs of all kinds including heroine and cocaine and meth and speed and crack and hillbilly heroine. It would take the puff out of it and the government can pay for ten countries health care including our own with that money they'd earn from tax. What a stupid country this is. Victoria "If the present and the future were contingent on the past, then the present and the future would have existed in the past." -Lama Tsongkhapa http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ I do not. Hemp is not to be compared with what you suggest doing. PA farmers could grow and earn from hemp. New Holland would design better equipment, more jobs and in 10 years of legalization it would help economy. Or so they say. I do not support legalizing what you suggest. In fact I would oppose it. I vote to legalize it. Let the stupid and weak drug themselves to death. It will clean up the gene pool. The quality and realibility of the drugs will stabalize, and much of the crime associated with drugs will go away. |
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