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Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
An old trick of politicians to blame everybody else for the problems
THEY created. They always blame the usual suspects: fat cats on wall street because they are easy targets. Nobody likes the fat cats. The fat cats are partially to blame BUT most of the blame goes back to the politicians. Thanks to the internet the politicians can no longer hide. See this video for who is behind this mess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o Pass it along. It has good music and graphics and easily understandable. Because of this problem taxes will go up, they are printing money to fix the problem so inflation will go up causing food and gas prices to go up, thus hurting the average american. Other prices going up will hurt business and to save money they will layoff people. Don't let them get away with it, take your country and your right to prosperity back ! |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
"steviekm3" wrote in message
... An old trick of politicians to blame everybody else for the problems THEY created. They always blame the usual suspects: fat cats on wall street because they are easy targets. Nobody likes the fat cats. The fat cats are partially to blame BUT most of the blame goes back to the politicians. Thanks to the internet the politicians can no longer hide. See this video for who is behind this mess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o Pass it along. It has good music and graphics and easily understandable. Because of this problem taxes will go up, they are printing money to fix the problem so inflation will go up causing food and gas prices to go up, thus hurting the average american. Other prices going up will hurt business and to save money they will layoff people. Don't let them get away with it, take your country and your right to prosperity back ! No one has right to prosperity. This has to be earned, or, stolen from someone else as the case here. Businesses and creditors alike don't learn from their mistakes unless the lesson actually hurts enough. The proposed solution from Congress sees that the pain is more of an embarrassment, than a literal loss to creditors. Either way, we pay for the fiasco. But, our children and grandchildren will pay even more if Congress keeps paying for our current problems with their money. -- Dave Food for thought. May cost more or perhaps the same if the credit market is allowed to correct on its own. The added benefit is the credit market won't risk doing the same thing or similar again in the future. As a result, such risks taken by borrowers won't exist either. |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
Jangchub wrote:
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:26:21 -0700 (PDT), steviekm3 wrote: An old trick of politicians to blame everybody else for the problems THEY created. They always blame the usual suspects: fat cats on wall street because they are easy targets. Nobody likes the fat cats. The fat cats are partially to blame BUT most of the blame goes back to the politicians. Thanks to the internet the politicians can no longer hide. See this video for who is behind this mess: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o Pass it along. It has good music and graphics and easily understandable. Because of this problem taxes will go up, they are printing money to fix the problem so inflation will go up causing food and gas prices to go up, thus hurting the average american. Other prices going up will hurt business and to save money they will layoff people. Don't let them get away with it, take your country and your right to prosperity back ! At this point, whether it is simply blindly voting with a dart at the dart board, Barak Obama has my firm vote. The thought of Commando Barbie, who can field dress a moose she murdered, whose daughter is pregnant at 17 and her other daughter was caught smoking crack or meth, pitueeee. Not to mention more meth labs were shut down in Alaska than any other state. Indeed our current president IS ABSOLUTELY responsible for this mess American is in, he is the direct blame of this ridiculous war where thousands of boys and girls are now dead, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people dead. What do they mean by "we must win this war?" What do we win? I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ I'm voting for the white guy--------------- Ralph Nader;) |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
Jangchub wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:36:06 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: I'm voting for the white guy--------------- Ralph Nader;) You might as well vote for the maverick because Nader hasn't got a chance. That is silly to throw away the vote like that. Victoria You're not at true Greeny, if you don't vote for the skinny whitey ;) |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
On Sep 29, 3:58*pm, Jangchub wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:25:51 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:36:06 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: I'm voting for the white guy--------------- Ralph Nader;) You might as well vote for the maverick because Nader hasn't got a chance. *That is silly to throw away the vote like that. Victoria You're not at true Greeny, if you don't vote for the skinny whitey ;) I never said I was a Greeny, so not sure what you're talking about even with the smiley. Ralph Nader has passed his prime. He's rumbling and mumbling now. *He may be the best we have to offer in the way or cleaning up the environment, but he has not experience in any other area of government. *He thinks he does. *I think he should be in local politics first, then maybe enter into bigger seats. *He's not more experienced than Commando Barbie. *I can't wait to see her bumbling on Thursday night. *Look for the ear piece. It will be firmly in her ear in up her ass. ....as the cat said: "...psssfffffttttttt" Some kind of wacko hatred at work here. cheers oz |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
"Jangchub" wrote in message
... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
On Sep 29, 11:05*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Sep 29, 3:58*pm, Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:25:51 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:36:06 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: I'm voting for the white guy--------------- Ralph Nader;) You might as well vote for the maverick because Nader hasn't got a chance. *That is silly to throw away the vote like that. Victoria You're not at true Greeny, if you don't vote for the skinny whitey ;) I never said I was a Greeny, so not sure what you're talking about even with the smiley. Ralph Nader has passed his prime. He's rumbling and mumbling now. *He may be the best we have to offer in the way or cleaning up the environment, but he has not experience in any other area of government. *He thinks he does. *I think he should be in local politics first, then maybe enter into bigger seats. *He's not more experienced than Commando Barbie. *I can't wait to see her bumbling on Thursday night. *Look for the ear piece. It will be firmly in her ear in up her ass. ...as the cat said: "...psssfffffttttttt" Some kind of wacko hatred at work here. cheers oz- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Obviously pulling her chain, and she's falling for it ;) Frank |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
"YMC" wrote in message
u... "Jangchub" wrote in message ... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. Voting is an exercise in choice of lesser evil. Usually, its the voter's pocketbook that takes precedence in that choice. Another alternative not mentioned is Ron Paul. -- Dave Food for thought. May cost more or perhaps the same if the credit market is allowed to correct on its own. The added benefit is the credit market won't risk doing the same thing or similar again in the future. As a result, such risks taken by borrowers won't exist either. |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
Jangchub wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:24:22 -0700 (PDT), Frank wrote: Obviously pulling her chain, and she's falling for it ;) Frank No, didn't fall for it at all. Just trying to make sure others know it's a really dumb thing to vote for Nader. Period. If it makes you feel superior in intelligence, you can think I fell for it. Silly in action. Victoria I know that as well as other intelligent people, but I quit arguing with stupid people, which is why I'm not trying to argue with you about voting for Obama ;) Frank |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
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, MajorOz wrote: On Sep 29, 3:58*pm, Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:25:51 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:36:06 -0400, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: I'm voting for the white guy--------------- Ralph Nader;) You might as well vote for the maverick because Nader hasn't got a chance. *That is silly to throw away the vote like that. Victoria You're not at true Greeny, if you don't vote for the skinny whitey ;) I never said I was a Greeny, so not sure what you're talking about even with the smiley. Ralph Nader has passed his prime. He's rumbling and mumbling now. *He may be the best we have to offer in the way or cleaning up the environment, but he has not experience in any other area of government. *He thinks he does. *I think he should be in local politics first, then maybe enter into bigger seats. *He's not more experienced than Commando Barbie. *I can't wait to see her bumbling on Thursday night. *Look for the ear piece. It will be firmly in her ear in up her ass. ...as the cat said: "...psssfffffttttttt" Some kind of wacko hatred at work here. cheers oz As an acolyte of Dixie Ray Lee, you should know wacko intimately, Oz. MaCain has already shown himself unfit to be president but Obama is the big disappointment. He voted for the Telecommunication bill that granted amnesty to telecommunication companies even before we found out what they did and now he encourages the blank check to Paulson for $700 billion. The bill should BRUCE MARKS: . . . have to do three things: do a moratorium on foreclosures, stop the interest-rate increases, and restructure loans to make them affordable. Thatıs it, without one dollar of taxpayer money. .. . . And Paulsonletıs go back in history a little bit. Paulson says the sky is falling, we have to bail out Bear Stearns, $30 billion; the sky is falling, we have to bail out Fannie and Freddie, $200 billion; the sky is falling, we have to bail out AIG, $85 billion. Well, at some point, weıve got to say, when you have a track record of failure, well, then weıve got to say, maybe the sky is not falling. Maybe we need to let things play itself out out there. And thatıs what we have to do. .. . . itıs exploitation, itıs discrimination. Itıs all those things. And they made hundreds of millions of dollars, and they should be in jail. They should be prosecuted. But letıs focus on the issue right now, which is, kill this bill. There is now making it better at this point. Weıve got to give ourselves some breathing room to do that. So, people can go to our website at naca.com, or they can go to other places out there, but call your congressmen and stop it. http://www.democracynow.org/2008/9/3...e_house_reject s Conflict of interest There has been some criticism of Paulson, with suggestions that Paulson's plan may potentially have some conflicts of interest. This is because Paulson is the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, a firm that may benefit from the plan. [32][33] Unlike the previous bailouts and managed liquidations of Goldman competitors Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch and Lehman Bros. and those of AIG, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, in which shareholder value was largely wiped out, Goldman's stock could rise under the Paulson plan, benefiting his former partners, because it would take distressed assets off their balance sheet. [34] The proposed bill would give the United States Treasury Secretary unprecedented powers over the economic and financial life of the U.S.. Section 8 of Paulsonıs plan states: ³Decisions by the Secretary pursuant to the authority of this Act are non-reviewable and committed to agency discretion, and may not be reviewed by any court of law or any administrative agency.²[35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Paulson They are picking our pockets. If you believe in Bush, you deserve to have your pockets picked but I don't. He has never done anything but lie to us. If this bill goes through, there will be no money for education, there will be no money for health care. All the beautiful promises created by Obama and McCain will be gone, and we can look forward to the neo-liberalism that crushed Argentina and Chile. Vote third party. -- Billy Obama and/or McCain Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
"Jangchub" wrote in message
... On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:39:17 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "YMC" wrote in message .au... "Jangchub" wrote in message ... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. Voting is an exercise in choice of lesser evil. Usually, its the voter's pocketbook that takes precedence in that choice. Another alternative not mentioned is Ron Paul. If I thought Ron Paul had any chance of winning he would be my first choice. I don't vote my pocket book, I don't have to. I vote to the pocketbooks of others who will burn down if McCaine is elected with that complete ninkompoop Palin. Russians fly in her air space. I thought I heard everything. Victoria "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Sad, but true. We may vote for another candidate that has a decent chance to win, defeating the one that seems the least in our favor. Vice voting for a candidate that is best qualified for our own personal reasons and is much less likely to win. That's really, really sad for many reasons. Going back to what I said, an exercise in choice between lesser evils. -- Dave |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
On Sep 26, 7:26ïż½pm, steviekm3 wrote:
An old trick of politicians to blame everybody else for the problems THEY created. They always blame the usual suspects: fat cats on wall street because they are easy targets. Nobody likes the fat cats. The fat cats are partially to blame BUT most of the blame goes back to the politicians. ALL of the blame for the current so-called crisis (there is no crisis) falls directly upon the lame brained debt-ridden irresponsible spineless *******s. No economy can last long operating in the red... running a tab is not an economy, it's a disease. The ONLY cure is for ALL credit to dry up. Paying off the deadbeat's debt only encourages more of the same. This ain't rocket scinece... there is nothing easier to understand/fix. |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of EconCrisis
Dioclese wrote:
"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:39:17 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "YMC" wrote in message u... "Jangchub" wrote in message ... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. Voting is an exercise in choice of lesser evil. Usually, its the voter's pocketbook that takes precedence in that choice. Another alternative not mentioned is Ron Paul. If I thought Ron Paul had any chance of winning he would be my first choice. I don't vote my pocket book, I don't have to. I vote to the pocketbooks of others who will burn down if McCaine is elected with that complete ninkompoop Palin. Russians fly in her air space. I thought I heard everything. Victoria "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Sad, but true. We may vote for another candidate that has a decent chance to win, defeating the one that seems the least in our favor. Vice voting for a candidate that is best qualified for our own personal reasons and is much less likely to win. That's really, really sad for many reasons. Going back to what I said, an exercise in choice between lesser evils. Couple of statements I noted: Jesse Ventura said voting for the lessor of evils, you're still voting for evil. Rush Limbaugh said that if your team did not make it to the Super Bowl, then you root for the team you want to win. I prefer the latter. Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are not in the game. |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
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Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote: Dioclese wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:39:17 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "YMC" wrote in message u... "Jangchub" wrote in message ... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. Voting is an exercise in choice of lesser evil. Usually, its the voter's pocketbook that takes precedence in that choice. Another alternative not mentioned is Ron Paul. If I thought Ron Paul had any chance of winning he would be my first choice. I don't vote my pocket book, I don't have to. I vote to the pocketbooks of others who will burn down if McCaine is elected with that complete ninkompoop Palin. Russians fly in her air space. I thought I heard everything. Victoria "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Sad, but true. We may vote for another candidate that has a decent chance to win, defeating the one that seems the least in our favor. Vice voting for a candidate that is best qualified for our own personal reasons and is much less likely to win. That's really, really sad for many reasons. Going back to what I said, an exercise in choice between lesser evils. Couple of statements I noted: Jesse Ventura said voting for the lessor of evils, you're still voting for evil. Rush Limbaugh said that if your team did not make it to the Super Bowl, then you root for the team you want to win. I prefer the latter. Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are not in the game. The Republicrats are going to win because they represent the owners of the country. My recommendation is to vote third party (any party) and support any initiative that calls for proportional representation. I hope I'm wrong but the country seems to be sliding into neo-liberal economics. The type that visited Chile, under Pinochet, and Argentina i.e. privatization of the public sector, massive cuts in social programs, and force to suppress dissent. eep those gardens going. It may be that we really will NEED them. -- Billy Obama and/or McCain Behind Bars http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTf...ef=patrick.net |
Dont let the politicians get off the hook, real cause of Econ Crisis
"Frank" frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote in message
. .. Dioclese wrote: "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:39:17 -0500, "Dioclese" NONE wrote: "YMC" wrote in message u... "Jangchub" wrote in message ... I don't care if Barak Obama in a peanut, he gets my vote. Period. Victoria Personally I blame the voters who voted for the idiots. You just confirmed that theory. Voting is an exercise in choice of lesser evil. Usually, its the voter's pocketbook that takes precedence in that choice. Another alternative not mentioned is Ron Paul. If I thought Ron Paul had any chance of winning he would be my first choice. I don't vote my pocket book, I don't have to. I vote to the pocketbooks of others who will burn down if McCaine is elected with that complete ninkompoop Palin. Russians fly in her air space. I thought I heard everything. Victoria "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know." Donald Rumsfeld http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Sad, but true. We may vote for another candidate that has a decent chance to win, defeating the one that seems the least in our favor. Vice voting for a candidate that is best qualified for our own personal reasons and is much less likely to win. That's really, really sad for many reasons. Going back to what I said, an exercise in choice between lesser evils. Couple of statements I noted: Jesse Ventura said voting for the lessor of evils, you're still voting for evil. Rush Limbaugh said that if your team did not make it to the Super Bowl, then you root for the team you want to win. I prefer the latter. Bob Barr, Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are not in the game. If Rush is comparing N.L. vs A.L. with our 2 party system, he isn't considering some may just want the N.L or A.L. team to lose, not caring if the opponent wins. If Jesse is talking generally about our 2 party system, accurate statement. If we continually get the thought pressed in our brains a 3rd party candidate has no chance to win, even if that is our preference, we may vote for the spoiler in the 2 party system candidates. I see a pattern here in my past replies... S.S.D.D. -- Dave |
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