Tomatoes in pots, was rec.gardens.organic,...... etc.
 

Charlie wrote in message
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Needs some posts, or x-posts, or some kind of utilization. Waste of a
perfectly good empty lot....needs a community garden....or some
squatters. ;-)

Here ya go...... Bought some tomato plants a couple of days ago and a few
weeks late. The Fall tomatoes I planted in August still had a few edible
ones. The plan was to plant again in whatever I could screen out of the
compost/leaf mould pile, but the new one is in an awkward place to turn to
get to the good stuff on the bottom.
After emptying the pots, I looked at the still incredible soil and
wondered about the conventional wisdom of not re-planting in the same stuff.
Were nutrients depleted? Would diseases appear? One way to find out......

So, taking the easy way out, I put the stuff back in the pots and planted
away. I figure I'll make a batch of compost tea to re-innoculate anything
that's missing, and feed with the egg shell/banana peel/molasses slurry that
I use as a good luck potion and see how it goes......

Tomatoes in pots, was rec.gardens.organic,...... etc.
 

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"cat daddy" wrote:

Charlie wrote in message
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rec.gardens.organic

No activity.

Needs some posts, or x-posts, or some kind of utilization. Waste of a
perfectly good empty lot....needs a community garden....or some
squatters. ;-)

Here ya go...... Bought some tomato plants a couple of days ago and a few
weeks late. The Fall tomatoes I planted in August still had a few edible
ones. The plan was to plant again in whatever I could screen out of the
compost/leaf mould pile, but the new one is in an awkward place to turn to
get to the good stuff on the bottom.
After emptying the pots, I looked at the still incredible soil and
wondered about the conventional wisdom of not re-planting in the same stuff.
Were nutrients depleted? Would diseases appear? One way to find out......

So, taking the easy way out, I put the stuff back in the pots and planted
away. I figure I'll make a batch of compost tea to re-innoculate anything
that's missing, and feed with the egg shell/banana peel/molasses slurry that
I use as a good luck potion and see how it goes......

Stand back, "Fire in the Hole"!
--

- Billy
"For the first time in the history of the world, every human being
is now subjected to contact with dangerous chemicals, from the
moment of conception until death." - Rachel Carson

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI29wVQN8Go

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1072040.html

Tomatoes in pots, was rec.gardens.organic,...... etc.
 

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"cat daddy" wrote:

Charlie wrote in message
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rec.gardens.organic

No activity.

Needs some posts, or x-posts, or some kind of utilization. Waste of a
perfectly good empty lot....needs a community garden....or some
squatters. ;-)

Here ya go...... Bought some tomato plants a couple of days ago and a
few
weeks late. The Fall tomatoes I planted in August still had a few edible
ones. The plan was to plant again in whatever I could screen out of the
compost/leaf mould pile, but the new one is in an awkward place to turn
to
get to the good stuff on the bottom.
After emptying the pots, I looked at the still incredible soil and
wondered about the conventional wisdom of not re-planting in the same
stuff.
Were nutrients depleted? Would diseases appear? One way to find out......

So, taking the easy way out, I put the stuff back in the pots and
planted
away. I figure I'll make a batch of compost tea to re-innoculate anything
that's missing, and feed with the egg shell/banana peel/molasses slurry
that
I use as a good luck potion and see how it goes......

Stand back, "Fire in the Hole"!

Nice visuals........ I really need a cauldron rather than a plastic
bucket....... I just imagine all the micros getting all bathed and happy in
the nutritious goodness.......

Speaking of fire, this whole biochar thing is intriguing, and I do have an
excess of limbs and such, but I just don't know where I can fit in the time
and expertise required. That, and the smoldering fire might attract the
attention of the authorities, with their endless questions and stuff......

Tomatoes in pots, was rec.gardens.organic,...... etc.
 

Charlie wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 23:53:36 -0500, "cat daddy"
wrote:

After emptying the pots, I looked at the still incredible soil and
wondered about the conventional wisdom of not re-planting in the same
stuff.
Were nutrients depleted? Would diseases appear? One way to find out......

I did this last year and had fine results with my peppers, cherry
tomatoes and eggplants in pots. I dumped all the "spent" pots, mixed
in a bunch of fresh compost, alfalfa meal, chopped dried leaves,
granulated fish, blood meal, bone meal, epsom salts...kinda of a
sorcerer's mix of what was on hand....waved the wand and danced the
dance and pronounced it fine....and it was. I innoculated later, and
often during the summer, with "Catdaddy's Fire in the Hole Tincture of
Compost" and had the best pot crops yet.

That is great to know about re-using the potting mix. I like the
"sorcerer's mix" concept a lot. Thanks for the reminder on the epsom salt. I
have about 10 lbs. lying around. And, the only other things I want is a bag
of alfalfa meal and one of dried molasses. And, grab a bunch of coffee
grounds regularly. I really added nothing for the Fall tomatoes, and feel a
little extra would be nice this time.

I'm really digging trying new ideas, especially ones that go against
the conventional wisdom.

It has been said, that one must start seedlings in sterile mix, and
yada yada? In Feb I decided I needed to start onions and leeks one
night and had no starting mix, so I used some old miracle grow potting
mix i had cabbaged from somebody's curbside trash. Nary a problem.

Makes one wonder about "conventional wisdom" being all it's cracked up to
be. I don't believe in sterile.....

So, taking the easy way out, I put the stuff back in the pots and
planted
away. I figure I'll make a batch of compost tea to re-innoculate anything
that's missing, and feed with the egg shell/banana peel/molasses slurry
that
I use as a good luck potion and see how it goes......


I really like easy.

If memory serves me correctly, isn't your slurry simply blenderized
ingredients listed above? I would guess in whatever amounts one deems
appropriate. ;-)

Yeah, I should have just called it a smoothie....... I figure the micros
will pick out what they want of whatever I throw in.

Tomatoes in pots, was rec.gardens.organic,...... etc.
 

Charlie wrote in message
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 00:33:19 -0500, "cat daddy"
wrote:


Nice visuals........ I really need a cauldron rather than a plastic
bucket....... I just imagine all the micros getting all bathed and happy
in
the nutritious goodness.......

Speaking of fire, this whole biochar thing is intriguing, and I do have
an
excess of limbs and such, but I just don't know where I can fit in the
time
and expertise required. That, and the smoldering fire might attract the
attention of the authorities, with their endless questions and stuff......

Smoldering fire attract attention?

Like the bubbling cauldron and the incantations at midnite won't, eh?

Well, we do try to keep things a little more low key these days, unlike a
few incidents in the past. Hell, what passed for weird in the olden dayes is
pretty mainstream now.......

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"Bigal" wrote in message
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cat daddy;838460 Wrote:
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Charlie wrote in message
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rec.gardens.organic

No activity.

Needs some posts, or x-posts, or some kind of utilization. Waste of
a
perfectly good empty lot....needs a community garden....or some
squatters. ;-)-



Speaking of fire, this whole biochar thing is intriguing, and I do
have an
excess of limbs and such, but I just don't know where I can fit in the
time
and expertise required. That, and the smoldering fire might attract the

attention of the authorities, with their endless questions and
stuff......

If you got any spare legs I could do with a couple. As for the
smouldering fire, you should hardly get any smoke if it is burrning
properly.

Bigal (UK)

I had to read this a couple of times........ before I read what I
wrote......

I suspect I would have to use a large metal drum to keep the smoke down,
although I had only read about the trench method and envisioned the Fire
Dept. coming around if I didn't get it right the first time...