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I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F today
and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers have started
to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several larger peppers holding
their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets water every day and needs it,
the nights have been rather warm and the days in the low 90s. I gave them
all a drink of magnesium this morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water.
What else can I do? The one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white
bucket. Could the roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


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I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F today
and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers have started
to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several larger peppers holding
their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets water every day and needs it,
the nights have been rather warm and the days in the low 90s. I gave them
all a drink of magnesium this morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water.
What else can I do? The one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white
bucket. Could the roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


Using Epsom Salts is for magnesium deficiency, which isn't likely in
potting soil (or most parts of the country).

Your plants are heat stressed.

Optimum temperatures fall between 70 degrees and 80 degrees F. for
bell-type peppers.

Fruit Set Priorities
Large fruitssmall fruitsflowerssmall buds
(retained) (dropped)

Survival strategy is to complete the life cycle with at Survival least a
few offspring (seeds), and not to waste energy on extra flowers and buds

You will lose fruit, but you will have a crop. Welcome to the wonderful
world of agriculture;O)

I think your best course is to cut back on your watering (to avoid rot
rot), unless the top soil is dry, and, depending on how much you want to
increase your crop, use an electric fan on them during the hottest time
of the day.
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The one
that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the roots be
getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is so
high there isn't much you can do about that.

David

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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is so
high there isn't much you can do about that.



OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is so
high there isn't much you can do about that.



OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


Tin foil would reflect some of the heat, but it would also transfer it
around you pot.

What's going on is that most of the plant's energy is being used to pump
water to the leaves for evaporative cooling via the stomata. Anything
you can do to cool the plants will be beneficial. Is there anywhere
where the plants could catch some wind? Afternoon shade during the
hottest 3 hours of the day, until the heat wave is over is another
thought. Shading just the pots will cool the roots. Do you have some old
rags or towels that you could wrap around the pots? Hose these down and
you'll get shading and evaporative cooling for the pots (and roots).
Hell, throw in a couple of ice cubes into each pot during the hottest
part of the day.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn


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"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.


Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is so
high there isn't much you can do about that.



OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


Where are you again Paul? LA is running low to mid-80s.
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- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
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http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn
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In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is
so
high there isn't much you can do about that.



OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of
mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is
getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


Tin foil would reflect some of the heat, but it would also transfer it
around you pot.

What's going on is that most of the plant's energy is being used to pump
water to the leaves for evaporative cooling via the stomata. Anything
you can do to cool the plants will be beneficial. Is there anywhere
where the plants could catch some wind? Afternoon shade during the
hottest 3 hours of the day, until the heat wave is over is another
thought. Shading just the pots will cool the roots. Do you have some old
rags or towels that you could wrap around the pots? Hose these down and
you'll get shading and evaporative cooling for the pots (and roots).
Hell, throw in a couple of ice cubes into each pot during the hottest
part of the day.



I'll see if I can find a shadier spot during the afternoon. But what heat
wave? This is cool for July. We get triple digits in these parts.

Paul


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"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is
so
high there isn't much you can do about that.



OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of
mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is
getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


Where are you again Paul? LA is running low to mid-80s.


LA is cooler than the valleys which reach high 90s and low 100s in the
summer. I am 40 miles due east of LA.

Paul


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In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do? The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp is
so
high there isn't much you can do about that.


OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of
mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is
getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers and
they seem happier.


Tin foil would reflect some of the heat, but it would also transfer it
around you pot.

What's going on is that most of the plant's energy is being used to pump
water to the leaves for evaporative cooling via the stomata. Anything
you can do to cool the plants will be beneficial. Is there anywhere
where the plants could catch some wind? Afternoon shade during the
hottest 3 hours of the day, until the heat wave is over is another
thought. Shading just the pots will cool the roots. Do you have some old
rags or towels that you could wrap around the pots? Hose these down and
you'll get shading and evaporative cooling for the pots (and roots).
Hell, throw in a couple of ice cubes into each pot during the hottest
part of the day.



I'll see if I can find a shadier spot during the afternoon. But what heat
wave? This is cool for July. We get triple digits in these parts.

Paul


Why not then just grow peas, broccoli, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts.
Optimum temperatures fall between 70 degrees and 80 degrees F. for
bell-type peppers. Most peppers will drop their blooms when daytime
temperatures get much above 90 degrees F. in combination with night
temperatures above 75 degrees F.

Prepare to be tested Paul.
--

- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn
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In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
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Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is
92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell
peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it
gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do?
The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could
the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not
on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp
is
so
high there isn't much you can do about that.


OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of
mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is
getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers
and
they seem happier.

Tin foil would reflect some of the heat, but it would also transfer it
around you pot.

What's going on is that most of the plant's energy is being used to
pump
water to the leaves for evaporative cooling via the stomata. Anything
you can do to cool the plants will be beneficial. Is there anywhere
where the plants could catch some wind? Afternoon shade during the
hottest 3 hours of the day, until the heat wave is over is another
thought. Shading just the pots will cool the roots. Do you have some
old
rags or towels that you could wrap around the pots? Hose these down and
you'll get shading and evaporative cooling for the pots (and roots).
Hell, throw in a couple of ice cubes into each pot during the hottest
part of the day.



I'll see if I can find a shadier spot during the afternoon. But what
heat
wave? This is cool for July. We get triple digits in these parts.

Paul


Why not then just grow peas, broccoli, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts.
Optimum temperatures fall between 70 degrees and 80 degrees F. for
bell-type peppers. Most peppers will drop their blooms when daytime
temperatures get much above 90 degrees F. in combination with night
temperatures above 75 degrees F.

Prepare to be tested Paul.


Looks like I'll need to cool those guys down. But the climate down here is
the same as in the San Joaquin Valley/Fresno area and they grow peppers as
an industry up there.

Paul




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"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Paul M. Cook" wrote:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...
Paul M. Cook wrote:
I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is
92F
today and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell
peppers
have started to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several
larger peppers holding their own. The plant is not stressed, it
gets
water every day and needs it, the nights have been rather warm and
the days in the low 90s. I gave them all a drink of magnesium this
morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water. What else can I do?
The
one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white bucket. Could
the
roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Make sure the top of the bucket is well mulched and that it is not
on
concrete or brick that will get hot from the sun. If the air temp
is
so
high there isn't much you can do about that.


OK, can do. I put the bucket on the grass and I have a huge bag of
mulch.
Will it help to wrap the container in foil as I think the bucket is
getting
overheated. I have peppers in terra cotta colored plastic containers
and
they seem happier.

Tin foil would reflect some of the heat, but it would also transfer it
around you pot.

What's going on is that most of the plant's energy is being used to
pump
water to the leaves for evaporative cooling via the stomata. Anything
you can do to cool the plants will be beneficial. Is there anywhere
where the plants could catch some wind? Afternoon shade during the
hottest 3 hours of the day, until the heat wave is over is another
thought. Shading just the pots will cool the roots. Do you have some
old
rags or towels that you could wrap around the pots? Hose these down and
you'll get shading and evaporative cooling for the pots (and roots).
Hell, throw in a couple of ice cubes into each pot during the hottest
part of the day.


I'll see if I can find a shadier spot during the afternoon. But what
heat
wave? This is cool for July. We get triple digits in these parts.

Paul


Why not then just grow peas, broccoli, cauliflower and Brussels sprouts.
Optimum temperatures fall between 70 degrees and 80 degrees F. for
bell-type peppers. Most peppers will drop their blooms when daytime
temperatures get much above 90 degrees F. in combination with night
temperatures above 75 degrees F.

Prepare to be tested Paul.


Looks like I'll need to cool those guys down. But the climate down here is
the same as in the San Joaquin Valley/Fresno area and they grow peppers as
an industry up there.

Paul


Paul, Paul, Paul,
the planting of bell peppers in the Central Valley starts in February,
when it is considerably cooler. Welcome to the learning curve, and good
luck.
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- Billy

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
find out for themselves.
Will Rogers

http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm
http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn
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I can't do much about the heat here in SoCal. Even the shade is 92F today
and literature says peppers drop over 90F. So my bell peppers have started
to drop their buds and small fruit. I have several larger peppers holding
their own. The plant is not stressed, it gets water every day and needs it,
the nights have been rather warm and the days in the low 90s. I gave them
all a drink of magnesium this morning - 2 tablespoons for a gallon of water.
What else can I do? The one that drops the most buds is in a 5 gallon white
bucket. Could the roots be getting too hot? I was thinking about wrapping
some foil around the bucket.

Hi,
Your plants are heat stressed.

Optimum temperatures fall between 70 degrees and 80 degrees F. for
bell-type peppers.

You will lose fruit, but you will have a crop. Welcome to the wonderful
world of agriculture.I think your best course is to cut back on your watering (to avoid rot
rot), unless the top soil is dry.
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