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Shadow 23-02-2003 11:51 PM

Dandelions
 
Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.



Cereoid+10 24-02-2003 12:03 AM

Dandelions
 
You can use the leaves as salad greens, use the roots as a coffee substitute
and can even make wine from the flowers.

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/...l_health/69711


Shadow wrote in message
...
Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be

honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a

field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always

assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by

seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions

would
be appreciated.

Thanks

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.





zhanataya 24-02-2003 12:27 AM

Dandelions
 
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:51:08 GMT, "Shadow"
wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks

Rent heavy equipment, scrape of the first four or five inches and then
lay sod. It would be cheaper and easier to mow more often. If it is
flat and green your neighbors won't notice the dandelions. ;-)

zhan

Phisherman 24-02-2003 12:52 AM

Dandelions
 
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:51:08 GMT, "Shadow"
wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks


Sounds like you enjoy the dandelions, so I suggest keep them. But if
you really want to put forth the effort and money to rid them you can
use a broadleaf herbacide that will kill the dandelions but not harm
(too much) the grass. What may happen is that you may be left with a
very sparse lawn and eventually need to overseed, else you will be
faced with a more vicious weed--crabgrass. If you prefer to go
totally organic, you can dig each one out by hand but if you break off
the long tapered root, it will grow back. My lawn is thick (I
overseed each year), so I may get a dozen or two dandelions over a
half acre of lawn each year. A thick lawn requires very little
chemicals and I will use spot treatment for the few weeds that grow.

Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 02:27 AM

Dandelions
 
Cut them while young and tender, rinse and dress with a hot bacon
dressing...ok it doesn;t get RID of them but gives you a USE for them!

Dave

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:51:08 GMT, "Shadow"
wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks



Julia Altshuler 24-02-2003 03:27 AM

Dandelions
 
How big is the area you're trying to rid of dandelions? If it isn't too huge, I
suggest 4 weeks of intense going outside and pulling them up with a little hand
tool that helps you loosen up the dirt around the root. Throw a party for the
neighborhood kids in which they weed for an hour followed by refreshments and
entertainment that you provide. Ten kids working for an hour each is 10 hours
of work. They can make a big dent in them. (Or skip the party and just pay
them.) The work goes easier when the ground is wet after a heavy rain. If you
get behind on pulling them up by the root, make sure you get the flowers before
they go to seed. It took me a few years, but I eventually was able to get rid
of the worst of my dandelions. (My problem doesn't sound as bad as yours. I
don't live next to a field of them.)

--Lia


Shadow wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.


will 24-02-2003 05:15 AM

Dandelions
 
You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......

=will=


Thalocean2 24-02-2003 06:28 AM

Dandelions
 
I was going to suggest making Dandilion wine.

Laura B.

Cut them while young and tender, rinse and dress with a hot bacon
dressing...ok it doesn;t get RID of them but gives you a USE for them!

Dave




Bob 24-02-2003 07:52 AM

Dandelions
 
Chickens love them. My neighbor's eat them first when put in a lawn area.

Bob

"Shadow" wrote in message
...
Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be

honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a

field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always

assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by

seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions

would
be appreciated.

Thanks

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.





Karen Fletcher 24-02-2003 11:51 AM

Dandelions
 
Bob wrote:
: Chickens love them. My neighbor's eat them first when put in a lawn area.

Horses love dandelions, too. Our old mare moves thoughtfully from plant
to plant, nibbling only the tenderest leaves.

The trick if you're going to pull them is to get the entire root since
otherwise they'll be back. One odd implement which really does a job on
dandelions and other tap-rooted weeds like pokeweed goes by the name of
Clint's Dandy Digger. http://www.clintsdandydigger.com/

What's really nice about this gadget is that one can work standing up,
something one begins to appreciate round about middle age ;-)

-- Karen

The Garden Gate http://garden-gate.prairienet.org
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Frogleg 24-02-2003 12:39 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 00:45:54 GMT, Phisherman wrote:

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:51:08 GMT, "Shadow"
wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.


Sounds like you enjoy the dandelions, so I suggest keep them. But if
you really want to put forth the effort and money to rid them you can
use a broadleaf herbacide that will kill the dandelions but not harm
(too much) the grass. What may happen is that you may be left with a
very sparse lawn and eventually need to overseed, else you will be
faced with a more vicious weed--crabgrass. If you prefer to go
totally organic, you can dig each one out by hand but if you break off
the long tapered root, it will grow back. My lawn is thick (I
overseed each year), so I may get a dozen or two dandelions over a
half acre of lawn each year. A thick lawn requires very little
chemicals and I will use spot treatment for the few weeds that grow.


I second Phisherman's advice. While not "organic," spot-treating with
Weed-Be-Gon or some similar broadleaf herbicide is quite effective.
When I was able to afford it, I got this in an aerosol can(!) and just
sprayed a little foam on each plant. In a thick lawn, this took about
5 minutes on a couple of Saturday mornings, and the problem went away
(and the can lasted for 2-3 years). Digging is *very* organic, and
quite ineffective -- at least as a long-term cure. The tiniest root
fragment will produce new plants.

Frogleg 24-02-2003 12:51 PM

Dandelions
 
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......


I've heard of someone saving them for parakeets, too.


kate 24-02-2003 02:39 PM

Dandelions
 


Frogleg wrote:

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......


I've heard of someone saving them for parakeets, too.


My dog likes the leaves and the flowers, which have mild analgesic
properties.

animaux 24-02-2003 03:51 PM

Dandelions
 
Invest 30 dollars on a tool called The Weed Popper. It requires virtually no
effort and is extremely effective on removal of perennial weeds with tap roots.
The best time to do it is a day or so after a nice soaking rain.

OR: Screw the neighbors. Personally, I love the dandelion flower and do
nothing to eradicate them. I eat the greens. I see nothing wrong with them.


On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:51:08 GMT, "Shadow" wrote:

Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions. I really do not want to use chemical
fertilizers, so I am looking for an organic solution. Any suggestions would
be appreciated.

Thanks



animaux 24-02-2003 04:04 PM

Dandelions
 
You know, Johnny's Select Seeds actually sells a cultivated form of dandelion
seeds? This is one pretty plant. I don't understand what the hoopla is about
when they pop up. Mowing them before they form seed moons is one other way of
keeping them from spreading, but getting rid of them is silly.

I didn't know lizards like them! What a plus. We have lizards all over the
place. Both Anole's and fence lizards. See some babies from our yard he

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_5x.html

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_6x.html


On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST), (will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......

=will=



Ian 24-02-2003 06:15 PM

Dandelions
 
Soon spring will be here, as will my yellow sea of dandelions. To be
honest,
I really haven't tried very hard to get rid of them. I live next to a

field
that is full of wildflowers (which I quite enjoy), and I had always

assumed
that any attempt I made to rid my lawn of weeds would be nullified by

seeds
from the field next door ending up on my lawn.However, in an attempt to be
neighbourly, I thought I'd try this year to at least get a start on
controlling the dandelions.



Just leave the dandelions. They are an extreemly important spring
nectar and pollen honeybee crop. The sight of dandelions is beutifull
in my eyes, and I never appreciated the plant soo much as when I
started raising bees. Instead of fighting them, and loosing every
year, just leave them and enjoy their benifet to the nectar collecting
insects.

Lar 24-02-2003 06:28 PM

Dandelions
 
In article ,
says...
:) I didn't know lizards like them! What a plus. We have lizards all over the
:) place. Both Anole's and fence lizards. See some babies from our yard he
:)
:)
:)
Those two don't eat plant material, but have seen Fence
hunt for bees and flies off the flowers. The kids will
feed the flowers and tender leaves to an iguana and
catch bees for a bearded dragon we have.
--
Good judgment comes from experience,
and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!



simy1 24-02-2003 08:03 PM

Dandelions
 
kate wrote in message ...
Frogleg wrote:

On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......


I've heard of someone saving them for parakeets, too.


My dog likes the leaves and the flowers, which have mild analgesic
properties.


Guinea pigs will not touch carrots or apples, or any kind of grain or
pellets or hay, if they can get dandelion instead.

animaux 24-02-2003 09:52 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:24:43 GMT, Lar wrote:


Those two don't eat plant material, but have seen Fence
hunt for bees and flies off the flowers. The kids will
feed the flowers and tender leaves to an iguana and
catch bees for a bearded dragon we have.


I've seen mine eat giant grasshoppers half hanging out the back of their mouths
for a hour till they get it all down.

V

Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 09:56 PM

Dandelions
 
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......

=will=


Mine prefer the horseradish leaves...though they do like the flowers
on the Dandelions..

Dave


Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 09:56 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:54:50 GMT, animaux
wrote:

You know, Johnny's Select Seeds actually sells a cultivated form of dandelion
seeds? This is one pretty plant. I don't understand what the hoopla is about
when they pop up. Mowing them before they form seed moons is one other way of
keeping them from spreading, but getting rid of them is silly.

I didn't know lizards like them! What a plus. We have lizards all over the
place. Both Anole's and fence lizards. See some babies from our yard he

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_5x.html

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_6x.html

Ah the Fence lizards and Anoles are carnivores, green iguanas love
Dandelions I understand though mine are finicky and only eat the
flowers.

Cool shots of the fence lizards. Sceloporus are neat guys.

Dave

animaux 24-02-2003 10:03 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:24:43 GMT, Lar wrote:


Those two don't eat plant material, but have seen Fence
hunt for bees and flies off the flowers. The kids will
feed the flowers and tender leaves to an iguana and
catch bees for a bearded dragon we have.


I've seen mine eat giant grasshoppers half hanging out the back of their mouths
for a hour till they get it all down.

V

Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 10:03 PM

Dandelions
 
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:01:39 -0600 (CST),
(will) wrote:

You can send me as many as you want. (chemical free though)

I have lizards who see dandelions as being better then almost anything
out there......

The eat dandelions like we eat popcorn.......

=will=


Mine prefer the horseradish leaves...though they do like the flowers
on the Dandelions..

Dave


Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 10:03 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:54:50 GMT, animaux
wrote:

You know, Johnny's Select Seeds actually sells a cultivated form of dandelion
seeds? This is one pretty plant. I don't understand what the hoopla is about
when they pop up. Mowing them before they form seed moons is one other way of
keeping them from spreading, but getting rid of them is silly.

I didn't know lizards like them! What a plus. We have lizards all over the
place. Both Anole's and fence lizards. See some babies from our yard he

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_5x.html

http://home.austin.rr.com/animaux/ne...n/Page_6x.html

Ah the Fence lizards and Anoles are carnivores, green iguanas love
Dandelions I understand though mine are finicky and only eat the
flowers.

Cool shots of the fence lizards. Sceloporus are neat guys.

Dave

animaux 24-02-2003 10:39 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:53:34 -0500, Dave Fouchey wrote:


Ah the Fence lizards and Anoles are carnivores, green iguanas love
Dandelions I understand though mine are finicky and only eat the
flowers.

Cool shots of the fence lizards. Sceloporus are neat guys.

Dave


There are so many of these little creatures in the yard, it's hard to walk
around and not see at least 10 of them scampering around. I adore them. The
facade of our home is 6 inch thick limestone. They put small seep holes at the
foundation and there is an anole in each one of them! They peek out every day
when it gets warm, which will not happen today. Yesterday it was 80, today at
430p it is still under 40. One good thing about cold, you can easily pick them
up and examine them for disease or possible defects. If you go back by our
mature mesquite tree, you would find many mature fence lizards. They get to be
around a foot long, two inches wide, which you probably know!

V

Dave Fouchey 24-02-2003 11:27 PM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:30:07 GMT, animaux
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 15:53:34 -0500, Dave Fouchey wrote:


Ah the Fence lizards and Anoles are carnivores, green iguanas love
Dandelions I understand though mine are finicky and only eat the
flowers.

Cool shots of the fence lizards. Sceloporus are neat guys.

Dave


There are so many of these little creatures in the yard, it's hard to walk
around and not see at least 10 of them scampering around. I adore them. The
facade of our home is 6 inch thick limestone. They put small seep holes at the
foundation and there is an anole in each one of them! They peek out every day
when it gets warm, which will not happen today. Yesterday it was 80, today at
430p it is still under 40. One good thing about cold, you can easily pick them
up and examine them for disease or possible defects. If you go back by our
mature mesquite tree, you would find many mature fence lizards. They get to be
around a foot long, two inches wide, which you probably know!

V


V these are the ones I am most familiar with

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed...porus/s._woodi

Caught some for study once, man are these suckers FAST...;-)

Dave




Claire Petersky 25-02-2003 03:03 AM

Dandelions
 
(Frogleg) wrote in message ...

Digging is *very* organic, and
quite ineffective -- at least as a long-term cure. The tiniest root
fragment will produce new plants.


A while back I started a tradition -- in the fall I would pull up all
the dandelions in the front yard, and where ever there was a hole from
the pulled-up weed, I'd put in a crocus bulb. Then, in the early
spring, I would have a lawn full of naturalized-looking crocus bulbs.
By the time the flowers faded, it would be time to do the first mowing
of the lawn.

What I found is sometimes I'd pull up a dandelion in the fall, and
already find a bulb there -- in other words, the root fragment made a
new plant, as frogleg suggests. But each year, the number of
dandelions I'd pull up were less and less, and the ones that would
come up from the root fragments were puny and could not make flowers.

This last fall, I found that, for the first time, I could not use up a
bag of 16 crocus bulbs in the lawn, and put the remaining bulbs in the
flower garden.

So it shows -- if you are consistent, you can control dandelions by
pulling them up, but it takes patience.

Warm Regards,


Claire Petersky
Books just wanna be FREE! See what I mean at:
http://bookcrossing.com/friend/Cpetersky

animaux 25-02-2003 03:51 AM

Dandelions
 
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:27:19 -0500, Dave Fouchey wrote:

V these are the ones I am most familiar with

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.ed...porus/s._woodi

Caught some for study once, man are these suckers FAST...;-)

Dave


After reading the URL I laughed because part of why we love to sit in the
evening and watch them, is their behavior; the "push-ups" they do. Even the
teeny weeny ones do that!

There is one who stays in the same spot year after year, for the past three
years we've had this house. This was virgin land when they built and they left
everything, trees, topsoil, etc. intact.

Tonight we are having an ice storm. Texas weather near spring is a real
challenge. Hope all the critters are in their dwellings.

Victoria

Trish K. 25-02-2003 04:27 AM

Dandelions
 
I did see a leash for iguanas in the pet store, can you do one of
those hawk training things with parakeets?

sorry, decent question. :)


Garrapata 28-02-2003 08:30 AM

Dandelions
 
On 24 Feb 2003 19:00:59 -0800, (Claire Petersky)
wrote:

A while back I started a tradition -- in the fall I would pull up all
the dandelions in the front yard, and where ever there was a hole from
the pulled-up weed, I'd put in a crocus bulb. Then, in the early
spring, I would have a lawn full of naturalized-looking crocus bulbs.
By the time the flowers faded, it would be time to do the first mowing
of the lawn.


The only time I ever think it would be nice to live in a cold climate
would be to able to plant crocuses and other bulbs in a lawn. Here in
central California I have to mow year 'round so it doesn't work.


--
Prunedale, California
Near Monterey Bay and Elkhorn Slough
USDA Zone 9......Sunset Zone15
36.81377 N, 121.65508 W

Dr. Rev. Chuck, M.D. P.A. 28-02-2003 09:51 AM

Dandelions
 
On 24 Feb 2003 19:00:59 -0800, (Claire Petersky)
wrote:

A while back I started a tradition -- in the fall I would pull up all
the dandelions in the front yard, and where ever there was a hole from
the pulled-up weed, I'd put in a crocus bulb. Then, in the early
spring, I would have a lawn full of naturalized-looking crocus bulbs.
By the time the flowers faded, it would be time to do the first mowing
of the lawn.


Great idea. Think I'll steal it.

A P Hemming 03-03-2003 09:51 PM

Dandelions
 
Follow Up I was going to suggest making Dandilion wine.
What a Dandy idea!



--
Paul.Cheltenham,England.



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