Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

Bill

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"Are you planning to grow tomatoes next year? If so, you might want to
consider grafting some of your favorite varieties onto a vigorous
rootstock. Grafting is an increasingly popular technique among tomato
growers who have had disappointing yields and disease problems. It's
especially helpful for heirloom, greenhouse, and hoophouse tomatoes.
Grafting is not difficult, and Johnny's has the supplies and information
you need to be successful. The procedure is straightforward: You start
seeds of both the rootstock and the scion (the variety you want to
fruit) and grow them until they are 3-4" tall. Then you cut the
rootstock and scion stems at the same angle with a sharp razor blade,
and attach the scion to the rootstock plant with a grafting clip or
piece of tubing. Experienced growers say they can graft 100 plants per
hour.
It's important to note the differences between the two rootstocks we
offer. Maxifort is an extremely vigorous rootstock that should be used
for greenhouse tomatoes such as Arbason and Trust. It should not be used
for heirloom tomatoes because it will produce too much vegetative growth
at the expense of fruit production. For heirlooms, choose the somewhat
less vigorous rootstock Beaufort."


http://www.johnnyseeds.com/search.as...k&source=E_120
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http://www.johnnyseeds.com/Assets/pd...f?source=E_120
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http://www.johnnyseeds.com/t-video_t...urce=E_1209_CG
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http://www.growingformarket.com/articles/20080526

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/c-278-gra...e=E_1209_CGCM_
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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

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Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for an
annual.

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David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary

David E. Ross wrote:
On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

[promotional spam snipped]

Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for
an annual.

I suppose if you live in a high-rise and have room for one or two plants the
expense of buying these might be justified. In my situation with plenty of
room and viable seed what do I care if each plant gives less than the
ultimate yield.

David

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

[promotional spam snipped]

Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for
an annual.

I suppose if you live in a high-rise and have room for one or two plants the
expense of buying these might be justified. In my situation with plenty of
room and viable seed what do I care if each plant gives less than the
ultimate yield.

David

My take is a bit different. I read planting root stock seed along with
your heirlooms. The why the interesting issue. Vigorous heirlooms the
reason for the effort. Here a another link.

http://www.eecofarm.org/dp/node/80

be sure to peruse the links in the first post as it touched on some
interesting ideas.

http://www.growingformarket.com/articles/20080526

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

[promotional spam snipped]

Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for
an annual.

I suppose if you live in a high-rise and have room for one or two plants
the
expense of buying these might be justified. In my situation with plenty of
room and viable seed what do I care if each plant gives less than the
ultimate yield.

David

My take is a bit different. I read planting root stock seed along with
your heirlooms. The why the interesting issue. Vigorous heirlooms the
reason for the effort. Here a another link.

http://www.eecofarm.org/dp/node/80

be sure to peruse the links in the first post as it touched on some
interesting ideas.

http://www.growingformarket.com/articles/20080526

Bill

Maybe 20 years ago I'd play with this. But I am a plain seed guy at
heart. Still

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHnOYcI6B44

I may give a few a shot out of curiosity maybe a low light scion base
and a marglobe light loving top . Weird science.

Bill

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

"Bill who putters" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

[promotional spam snipped]

Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for
an annual.

I suppose if you live in a high-rise and have room for one or two plants
the
expense of buying these might be justified. In my situation with plenty
of
room and viable seed what do I care if each plant gives less than the
ultimate yield.

David

My take is a bit different. I read planting root stock seed along with
your heirlooms. The why the interesting issue. Vigorous heirlooms the
reason for the effort. Here a another link.

http://www.eecofarm.org/dp/node/80

Do you mean that as well as planting the heirloom seed, you also plant the
seed onto which you will graft?

I wouldn't bother because in trials that have been done in this country
(Australia tests done by Diggers in Victoria) the heirloom varieties that I
would want to grow have all been proven to have either produced more or
almost the same weight of tomatoes as modern hybrids. The tomatoes from
those heirlooms have all been picked by chefs and the general public as
being tastier than the modern hybrids.

In article ,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Bill who putters" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:
On 12/22/2009 1:25 AM, Bill who putters wrote:
Something else I never heard of before. Came in the mail this AM.

[promotional spam snipped]

Even experts often get only 50% success. This requires effort and (if
you have to buy the root stock) expense that cannot be justified for
an annual.

I suppose if you live in a high-rise and have room for one or two plants
the
expense of buying these might be justified. In my situation with plenty
of
room and viable seed what do I care if each plant gives less than the
ultimate yield.

David

My take is a bit different. I read planting root stock seed along with
your heirlooms. The why the interesting issue. Vigorous heirlooms the
reason for the effort. Here a another link.

http://www.eecofarm.org/dp/node/80

Do you mean that as well as planting the heirloom seed, you also plant the
seed onto which you will graft?

Yup.

http://www.johnnyseeds.com/search.as...&source=E_1209
_CGCM_Di

I wouldn't bother because in trials that have been done in this country
(Australia tests done by Diggers in Victoria) the heirloom varieties that I
would want to grow have all been proven to have either produced more or
almost the same weight of tomatoes as modern hybrids. The tomatoes from
those heirlooms have all been picked by chefs and the general public as
being tastier than the modern hybrids.

This being the case I'd think there is no reason for grafting tomatoes
except for disease prevention of you have one.

Bill

I think I got the dam flu albeit mild. Waiting for a gas furnace Gas
Valve but house is OK with 13 F. outside right now. Fireplace cranking
and a space heater.

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Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA