greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...0315&submit=Go

Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

Jeff

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

jeff wrote in :

I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this
keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime
temps upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and
insulation, and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning
on a 250W heat lamp.

Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my
garden?

Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...p?q=30315&subm
it=Go

Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the
average
last 32.

I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

Jeff


When does the weather get too warm for peas? Here in Oregon, my peas
flourish well into June and sometimes into July if it's not too warm. We
can have 100 on July 4th, or we can have 65 and rain.

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

On Feb 1, 11:28*pm, jeff wrote:
* *I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

* I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

* Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

* *Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

* *Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...php?q=30315&su....

* *Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

* *I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

* *Jeff

I started my peas in Novemeber and now have tons. Where in 7b are you?
I am in the East of 95 corridor in North Carolina and I believe that
is 7 b as well. I have had a green house for 3 years,I guess what I am
saying is that I can be more specific if I know where you are.

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

mj wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:28 pm, jeff wrote:
I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...php?q=30315&su...

Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

Jeff

I started my peas in Novemeber and now have tons. Where in 7b are you?
I am in the East of 95 corridor in North Carolina and I believe that
is 7 b as well. I have had a green house for 3 years,I guess what I am
saying is that I can be more specific if I know where you are.

I'm *in* Atlanta.

What precautions do you need to take, and did you need to use any
heat? I know little about using greenhouses..., but since I have one,
I'd like to put it to use!

Last year I planted snow peas (which whithered and died), tomatoes,
cukes and melons and a few others. I'd like to get an earlier or less
expensive start.

Jeff

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

On Feb 2, 8:09*am, jeff wrote:
mj wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:28 pm, jeff wrote:
* *I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

* I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

* Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

* *Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

* *Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...php?q=30315&su....

* *Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

* *I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

* *Jeff

I started my peas in Novemeber and now have tons. Where in 7b are you?
I am in the East of 95 corridor in North Carolina and I believe that
is 7 b as well. I have had a green house for 3 years,I guess what I am
saying is that I can be more specific if I know where you are.

* *I'm *in* Atlanta.

* *What precautions do you need to take, and did you need to use any
heat? I know little about using greenhouses..., but since I have one,
I'd like to put it to use!

* *Last year I planted snow peas (which whithered and died), tomatoes,
cukes and melons and a few others. I'd like to get an earlier or less
expensive start.

* *Jeff

I have an electric heater with a thermostat that keeps the greenhouse
above freezing. I have 2 snow pea plants that are producing like
crazy. I also have leaf lettuce and believe it or not a type of cherry
tomato currently. I have started my peppers and tomatoes in the house
but will transfer them to the greenhouse by the end of the month. Just
for fun I started a zucchini plant in an Aero Garden in December and
put it in the greenhouse a few weeks ago. It has 2 zucchini on it.
Will you also be planting in the ground? I will start more lettuce,
onions and spinich the first week in March. I also grow melon and
cucumbers and of course more squash outside and will plant those seeds
the first of April. Cucumbers don't seem to do well in the greenhouse.
Do you have vents or windows? They will become key during the summer
months. I should also mention that everything in my greenhouse is
grown hydroponicly. There is a book I use for reference; The
Greenhouse Expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon.

"Less expensive start?"... I am not sure what you mean. If you mean
not a lot of success and the price of seeds I can tell you that I use
the 20 cent packages from Walmart. The seed catalogs look great but I
have not found the $4.00 seeds to be any more worthy.
I hope this helps a little. I enjoy garden talk.

MJ

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:28:24 -0500, jeff wrote:

I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...0315&submit=Go

Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

Jeff


Some plants start well indoors, but others will do better planted
directly into the ground (some plants do not transplant well). I've
started tomato and pepper seeds indoors, usually 4-5 weeks before the
average last frost date. If started too early you may get weak
spindly plants.

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

mj wrote:
On Feb 2, 8:09 am, jeff wrote:
mj wrote:
On Feb 1, 11:28 pm, jeff wrote:
I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.
I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.
Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?
Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?
Daves Garden:
http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...php?q=30315&su...
Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.
I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.
Jeff
I started my peas in Novemeber and now have tons. Where in 7b are you?
I am in the East of 95 corridor in North Carolina and I believe that
is 7 b as well. I have had a green house for 3 years,I guess what I am
saying is that I can be more specific if I know where you are.
I'm *in* Atlanta.

What precautions do you need to take, and did you need to use any
heat? I know little about using greenhouses..., but since I have one,
I'd like to put it to use!

Last year I planted snow peas (which whithered and died), tomatoes,
cukes and melons and a few others. I'd like to get an earlier or less
expensive start.

Jeff

I have an electric heater with a thermostat that keeps the greenhouse
above freezing. I have 2 snow pea plants that are producing like
crazy. I also have leaf lettuce and believe it or not a type of cherry
tomato currently. I have started my peppers and tomatoes in the house
but will transfer them to the greenhouse by the end of the month. Just
for fun I started a zucchini plant in an Aero Garden in December and
put it in the greenhouse a few weeks ago. It has 2 zucchini on it.

How about that!

Will you also be planting in the ground?

Yes, I mainly want to start in the greenhouse. Later in the year it will
be shaded.

I will start more lettuce,
onions and spinich the first week in March. I also grow melon and
cucumbers and of course more squash outside and will plant those seeds
the first of April. Cucumbers don't seem to do well in the greenhouse.

That makes sense. Is it downy mildew? Melons OK though?

Do you have vents or windows? They will become key during the summer
months. I should also mention that everything in my greenhouse is
grown hydroponicly.

That's interesting. I put in a drip irrigation for the garden last
year. Since I have a timer, some pumps and lots of tubing I'm thinking I
might have the beginning of a hydroponic setup. What do you use for a
medium?

There is a book I use for reference; The
Greenhouse Expert by Dr. D. G. Hessayon.

Thanks.

"Less expensive start?"... I am not sure what you mean. If you mean
not a lot of success and the price of seeds I can tell you that I use
the 20 cent packages from Walmart. The seed catalogs look great but I
have not found the $4.00 seeds to be any more worthy.

Actually I meant seeds not plants. I pretty much want to grow the
same stuff that you have

I hope this helps a little. I enjoy garden talk.

Thanks,
Jeff

MJ

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

Phisherman wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:28:24 -0500, jeff wrote:

I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...0315&submit=Go

Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

Jeff


Some plants start well indoors, but others will do better planted
directly into the ground (some plants do not transplant well). I've
started tomato and pepper seeds indoors, usually 4-5 weeks before the
average last frost date. If started too early you may get weak
spindly plants.


OK. I have a couple weeks to gather what I want. If I just get
peppers and tomatoes started, I'll be happy. That and snow peas! Thanks.

Jeff

greenhouses and starting garden plants
 

On Feb 2, 8:05*pm, jeff wrote:
Phisherman wrote:
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:28:24 -0500, jeff wrote:

* I'm a beginning gardener looking forward to this years garden and
would like some idea of what I can start and when.

*I'm in 7b and have a small homespun "greenhouse" (8' * 8'), this keeps
the night time temps about 10 degrees off the outside and daytime temps
upwards of 30 degrees warmer. I've added thermal mass and insulation,
and if needed I can raise the temps 10 degrees by turning on a 250W heat
lamp.

*Would this be a suitable enviornment for germinating seeds for my garden?

* Should I start about a month or so before the last frost date?

* Daves Garden:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/freeze...php?q=30315&su....

* Gives me mid Feb for an average last 24 and March 24 for the average
last 32.

* I had too late a start for snow peas last year, they did well until
it warmed up and I'm thinking I need to really get an early start.

* Jeff

Some plants start well indoors, but others will do better planted
directly into the ground (some plants do not transplant well). * I've
started tomato and pepper seeds indoors, usually 4-5 weeks before the
average last frost date. * If started too early you may get weak
spindly plants.

* *OK. I have a couple weeks to gather what I want. If I just get
peppers and tomatoes started, I'll be happy. That and snow peas! Thanks.

* *Jeff

I have not tried melon in the greenhouse. Actually what I did was
another "why not" thing. I have a sandy beach so I took big black pots
and buried them. I planted the cantalope and watermelon in the pots. I
figured that the vines could spread and go where ever they wanted to
and they did. I also put some winter squash in. It worked, in theory,
and I did get some produce but without irragation, even less rain and
lack of attention they didn't do as well as they could have. THIS
year, I promise !!
It sounds like you are started on hydroponics. The medium I have is a
clay pellet. I am not real fond of it and hope to change when it is
worn out.