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EVP MAN 24-02-2010 06:03 AM

Growing Tobacco
 

As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself. It seems to be very easy to grow from what
I've been reading on the net. The big problem seems to be curing it
which can take a very long time depending on the method used. I'm
considering sun curing which seems to be the quickest curing method. I
plan to harvest the leaves from the bottom of the plant up as they begin
to turn from green to yellow. I'll cut and tie the leaves in small
clusters and hang them in the sun for two or three weeks after which
I'll then transfer them to my basement where they will be hung from the
rafters. I plan to chop them up as needed in a food processor and roll
them into cigarettes or smoke them in a pipe. I even considered another
alternative to sun drying but not sure how well it may work. Harvest
the leaves and hang them directly in my basement. Then use a food
dehydrator to dry them as needed. Can anyone give me any ideas to
ponder???

Rich from PA zone 6


Wildbilly 24-02-2010 07:32 AM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article ,
(EVP MAN) wrote:

As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself. It seems to be very easy to grow from what
I've been reading on the net. The big problem seems to be curing it
which can take a very long time depending on the method used. I'm
considering sun curing which seems to be the quickest curing method. I
plan to harvest the leaves from the bottom of the plant up as they begin
to turn from green to yellow. I'll cut and tie the leaves in small
clusters and hang them in the sun for two or three weeks after which
I'll then transfer them to my basement where they will be hung from the
rafters. I plan to chop them up as needed in a food processor and roll
them into cigarettes or smoke them in a pipe. I even considered another
alternative to sun drying but not sure how well it may work. Harvest
the leaves and hang them directly in my basement. Then use a food
dehydrator to dry them as needed. Can anyone give me any ideas to
ponder???

Rich from PA zone 6


Growin' tobacco makes as much sense as getting a web cam for your
computer, so that big brother can watch you. Hey, if a school district
can do it, do you think Washington won't?
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/22/headlines#10
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...ting_activists
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines

Phisherman[_3_] 24-02-2010 12:13 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:03:13 -0500, (EVP MAN)
wrote:


As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself. It seems to be very easy to grow from what
I've been reading on the net. The big problem seems to be curing it
which can take a very long time depending on the method used. I'm
considering sun curing which seems to be the quickest curing method. I
plan to harvest the leaves from the bottom of the plant up as they begin
to turn from green to yellow. I'll cut and tie the leaves in small
clusters and hang them in the sun for two or three weeks after which
I'll then transfer them to my basement where they will be hung from the
rafters. I plan to chop them up as needed in a food processor and roll
them into cigarettes or smoke them in a pipe. I even considered another
alternative to sun drying but not sure how well it may work. Harvest
the leaves and hang them directly in my basement. Then use a food
dehydrator to dry them as needed. Can anyone give me any ideas to
ponder???

Rich from PA zone 6



Sounds like a lot of bother unless you can sell some. Tobacco plants
are finicky.

EVP MAN 24-02-2010 02:36 PM

Growing Tobacco
 

I've also thought about this. The tobacco I'll be growing is a big
beautiful plant with lush green leaves and beautiful flowers. I could
place a few at the end of my garden for decorative purposes and also as
a conservation piece. I don't think many folks here in the north east
ever even saw a tobacco plant let alone one in bloom. Tobacco seeds are
very tiny, about as fine as ground pepper so I'm told. Perhaps I could
then allow my plants to go to seed and then harvest just the seeds.
From my understanding, each pod contains about 100 seeds. That's a lot
of seeds from a few plants! The seeds could then be used as a barter
item in a future economy that seems to be getting worse with each
passing week month and year. There are a lot of tobacco users out there
who can't buy their tobacco products when they don't have jobs. Smoke
some, perhaps. Harvest seed to barter, perhaps. Seems to me that
this plant could have lot's of possibilities now and in the future.

Rich


Bill who putters 24-02-2010 02:55 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article ,
(EVP MAN) wrote:

I've also thought about this. The tobacco I'll be growing is a big
beautiful plant with lush green leaves and beautiful flowers. I could
place a few at the end of my garden for decorative purposes and also as
a conservation piece. I don't think many folks here in the north east
ever even saw a tobacco plant let alone one in bloom. Tobacco seeds are
very tiny, about as fine as ground pepper so I'm told. Perhaps I could
then allow my plants to go to seed and then harvest just the seeds.
From my understanding, each pod contains about 100 seeds. That's a lot
of seeds from a few plants! The seeds could then be used as a barter
item in a future economy that seems to be getting worse with each
passing week month and year. There are a lot of tobacco users out there
who can't buy their tobacco products when they don't have jobs. Smoke
some, perhaps. Harvest seed to barter, perhaps. Seems to me that
this plant could have lot's of possibilities now and in the future.

Rich


The Amish in Lancaster county Pa. grew/grow lots of Tobacco.

http://www.fotosearch.com/STK021/ajn13047/

Bill

--
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Nanzi 25-02-2010 03:45 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
On Feb 24, 9:36*am, (EVP MAN) wrote:
I've also thought about this. *The tobacco I'll be growing is a big
beautiful plant with lush green leaves and beautiful flowers. *I could
place a few at the end of my garden for decorative purposes and also as
a conservation piece. *I don't think many folks here in the north east
ever even saw a tobacco plant let alone one in bloom. *Tobacco seeds are
very tiny, about as fine as ground pepper so I'm told. *Perhaps I could
then allow my plants to go to seed and then harvest just the seeds.
From my understanding, *each pod contains about 100 seeds. *That's a lot
of seeds from a few plants! *The seeds could then be used as a barter
item in a future economy that seems to be getting worse with each
passing week month and year. *There are a lot of tobacco users out there
who can't buy their tobacco products when they don't have jobs. *Smoke
some, *perhaps. *Harvest seed to barter, *perhaps. *Seems to me that
this plant could have lot's of possibilities now and in the future.

Rich


Haven't you ever seen all the covered tobacco fields in CT? I worked
in them one summer as a kid, Miles & miles of gauze tents. They put
them in barns with slats in the sides that they could open, but I dont
know when or why they were opened. Tied in bundles, actually sewn onto
lathes, and hung.
Maybe some research could tell you what their method is. Each plant is
tied to an overhead wire running the length iof the row. Sometimes we
coulodn't see the end of the row til we were halfway down it. as the
plant grows we went down the rows twisting the string in between the
leaves to keep them friom breaking. falling over in the wind. They
were used mainly as cigar wrappers.
Good luck, and btw I think it is legal to grow a certain amount of
tobacco for personal use.
Nan in DE

brooklyn1 25-02-2010 05:12 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:45:20 -0800 (PST), Nanzi
wrote:

On Feb 24, 9:36*am, (EVP MAN) wrote:
I've also thought about this. *The tobacco I'll be growing is a big
beautiful plant with lush green leaves and beautiful flowers. *I could
place a few at the end of my garden for decorative purposes and also as
a conservation piece. *I don't think many folks here in the north east
ever even saw a tobacco plant let alone one in bloom. *Tobacco seeds are
very tiny, about as fine as ground pepper so I'm told. *Perhaps I could
then allow my plants to go to seed and then harvest just the seeds.
From my understanding, *each pod contains about 100 seeds. *That's a lot
of seeds from a few plants! *The seeds could then be used as a barter
item in a future economy that seems to be getting worse with each
passing week month and year. *There are a lot of tobacco users out there
who can't buy their tobacco products when they don't have jobs. *Smoke
some, *perhaps. *Harvest seed to barter, *perhaps. *Seems to me that
this plant could have lot's of possibilities now and in the future.

Rich


Haven't you ever seen all the covered tobacco fields in CT? I worked
in them one summer as a kid, Miles & miles of gauze tents. They put
them in barns with slats in the sides that they could open, but I dont
know when or why they were opened. Tied in bundles, actually sewn onto
lathes, and hung.
Maybe some research could tell you what their method is. Each plant is
tied to an overhead wire running the length iof the row. Sometimes we
coulodn't see the end of the row til we were halfway down it. as the
plant grows we went down the rows twisting the string in between the
leaves to keep them friom breaking. falling over in the wind. They
were used mainly as cigar wrappers.
Good luck, and btw I think it is legal to grow a certain amount of
tobacco for personal use.
Nan in DE


I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/

gloria.p 25-02-2010 11:18 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
EVP MAN wrote:
As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself.



If you or a nearby neighbor has a garden that grows tomatoes, please
don't grow tobacco. It often carries the tobacco mosaic virus which
will transmit to tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, some flowers and other
food crops.

gloria p

Coffee's For Closers[_3_] 25-02-2010 11:56 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article ,
says...

I've also thought about this. The tobacco I'll be growing is a big
beautiful plant with lush green leaves and beautiful flowers. I could
place a few at the end of my garden for decorative purposes and also as
a conservation piece. I don't think many folks here in the north east
ever even saw a tobacco plant let alone one in bloom. Tobacco seeds are
very tiny, about as fine as ground pepper so I'm told. Perhaps I could
then allow my plants to go to seed and then harvest just the seeds.
From my understanding, each pod contains about 100 seeds. That's a lot
of seeds from a few plants! The seeds could then be used as a barter
item in a future economy that seems to be getting worse with each
passing week month and year. There are a lot of tobacco users out there
who can't buy their tobacco products when they don't have jobs. Smoke
some, perhaps. Harvest seed to barter, perhaps. Seems to me that
this plant could have lot's of possibilities now and in the future.



If someone is having difficulty affording cancer sticks, wouldn't
a more effective solution be to stop smoking?


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Phisherman[_3_] 26-02-2010 12:34 AM

Growing Tobacco
 
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
....
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/



Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."

Wildbilly 26-02-2010 03:09 AM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article ,
"gloria.p" wrote:

EVP MAN wrote:
As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself.



If you or a nearby neighbor has a garden that grows tomatoes, please
don't grow tobacco. It often carries the tobacco mosaic virus which
will transmit to tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, some flowers and other
food crops.

gloria p


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_mosaic_virus
Tobacco mosaic virus (TMV) is an RNA virus that infects plants,
especially tobacco and other members of the family Solanaceae.

Solanaceae is a family of flowering plants that contains a number of
important agricultural plants as well as many toxic plants. . .
The family includes . . . Capsicum (paprika, chili pepper), Solanum
(potato, tomato, aubergine or eggplant)

If your willing to lose your and your neighbor's chili peppers,
potatoes, tomatoes, and eggplants it shouldn't be a problem.

Maybe you could be a good guy, and help save a little bit of the world
while your at it: and grow organic.
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...ting_activists
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines

The Henchman 27-02-2010 12:52 AM

Growing Tobacco
 


"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
...
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/



Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."


Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.


Bill who putters 27-02-2010 01:10 AM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:52:54 -0500, "The Henchman"
wrote:



"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
...
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/


Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."


Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...s/2009/09/19/s
oda_tax_its_the_real_thing/

How about a tax on each bottle of soda also?

Money talks (so says the supreme court)

Charlie


Just as long as masturbation falls under the tax mans radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

http://www.sheep.com/sounds/baasheep1.wav


Wildbilly 27-02-2010 03:07 AM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:10:43 -0500, Bill who putters
wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:52:54 -0500, "The Henchman"
wrote:



"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
...
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/


Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."

Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...cles/2009/09/1
9/s
oda_tax_its_the_real_thing/

How about a tax on each bottle of soda also?

Money talks (so says the supreme court)

Charlie


Just as long as masturbation falls under the tax mans radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

Bill


OMG, you're a wicked feller, to make me pee a little like this.
Perhaps we should impose a tax upon you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk9kDbRIEvg


Charlie


Well, there goes the level ;O)
--
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100119/...ting_activists
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/19/headlines

George[_14_] 28-02-2010 07:43 AM

Growing Tobacco
 

"Bill who putters" wrote in message
...
In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:52:54 -0500, "The Henchman"
wrote:



"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
...
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/


Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."

Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's
the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...s/2009/09/19/s
oda_tax_its_the_real_thing/

How about a tax on each bottle of soda also?

Money talks (so says the supreme court)

Charlie


Just as long as masturbation falls under the tax mans radar.


that comment should flush Charlie out

rob


George[_14_] 28-02-2010 07:44 AM

Growing Tobacco
 

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:10:43 -0500, Bill who putters
wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:52:54 -0500, "The Henchman"
wrote:



"Phisherman" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 12:12:06 -0500, brooklyn1
...
I don't know why any intelligent person would want to grow tobacco
but
it's done all the time.
http://www.growtobacco.net/


Tobacco is evil. My federal health care plan is simple and cost
nothing: No more tobacco.

I've heard it called "The native American Indian's revenge to white
man."

Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's
the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...s/2009/09/19/s
oda_tax_its_the_real_thing/

How about a tax on each bottle of soda also?

Money talks (so says the supreme court)

Charlie


Just as long as masturbation falls under the tax mans radar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

Bill


OMG, you're a wicked feller, to make me pee a little like this.
Perhaps we should impose a tax upon you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk9kDbRIEvg

Charlie


yup! haven't seen you for a while charles.

rob


Bill who putters 28-02-2010 08:12 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article , Charlie wrote:


Now that I think about it, I wonder if LeftCoastBilly even owns a coat
and shoes.


Charlie


Well I once thought of it but it has always fallen thru the cracks.
March 6 I'm 62 and my kids are giving me a pair of high tech snow shoes.
I got waders and 3 ft. High boots but I need to get about and knock
snow off a lot of plants. Ticker issues. Failed miserably this year.

Never seen it like this and had the driveway plowed 4 times first time
in 35 years I did not dig out. El Nino and Al Gore may be on to
something.
More comfort food this night. Still the power never whimpered and
that is wonderful. Just found out oldest 35 got a ring last night looks
like three weddings in the next year. When it rains it pours. We are
HAPPY.

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA



Bill who putters 01-03-2010 07:07 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article , Charlie wrote:


Ticker issues trump snow issues and that just might not be considered
failure, just prudence and adaptation to realities.


Yes but I still think I will live forever. Just in from moving some
snow mixed with driveway stone. Looks like a touch up in spring is in
order.

More comfort food this night.


? Gonna make me guess ?


Spaghetti Carbonara

1Whole egg and one yoke
Mixed with Hard Italian cheese Parmesan Romano type
Should look like boiled corn meal mush Yellow

Bacon or Panchetta 1/5 lb.
Heavy Cream i/4 or 1/2 cup

4 tablespoons of butter

Cook Bacon and leave some fat add some heavy cream

Boil your pasta I lb. Drain

Add butter to hot pasta Melt
Add egg and gratted cheese Move around to cook
Add Bacon and cream Mix

Some cheese to top with

Serve with bread and wine



Your backup get going yet?


Gas fireplace part on order.

This looks neat but $2000

http://www.amazon.com/Generac-5501-A...nerator/dp/B00
1DZNDFK/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1267470264&sr=8-14

Have your dancin' shoes ready?


Dancing fool. Frank went way too soon!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trqfeg-5Duo

Blessings upon you, my Brother.
Charlie


You take care Best!

Bill

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA



Bill who putters 01-03-2010 07:11 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
In article ,
Bill who putters wrote:

In article , Charlie wrote:


Ticker issues trump snow issues and that just might not be considered
failure, just prudence and adaptation to realities.


Yes but I still think I will live forever. Just in from moving some
snow mixed with driveway stone. Looks like a touch up in spring is in
order.

More comfort food this night.


? Gonna make me guess ?


Spaghetti Carbonara

1Whole egg and one yoke
Mixed with Hard Italian cheese Parmesan Romano type
Should look like boiled corn meal mush Yellow

Bacon or Panchetta 1/5 lb.
Heavy Cream i/4 or 1/2 cup

4 tablespoons of butter

Cook Bacon and leave some fat add some heavy cream

Boil your pasta I lb. Drain

Add butter to hot pasta Melt
Add egg and gratted cheese Move around to cook
Add Bacon and cream Mix

Some cheese to top with

Serve with bread and wine



Your backup get going yet?


Gas fireplace part on order.

This looks neat but $2000

http://www.amazon.com/Generac-5501-A...nerator/dp/B00
1DZNDFK/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1267470264&sr=8-14

Have your dancin' shoes ready?


Dancing fool. Frank went way too soon!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trqfeg-5Duo

Blessings upon you, my Brother.
Charlie


You take care Best!

Bill


Error should be 1/2 lb. bacon or Panchetta. Panchetta worth price. BTW

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA



[email protected] 04-03-2010 04:29 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
its the sugar and carbs that will kill you. not just stop support for corn syrup,
tax the hell out of it. Ingrid

On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:52:54 -0500, "The Henchman" wrote:
Tobacco taxes more than pay for government insured health care. It's the
lack of tax on Doritos and Big Macs that make government backed health
insurance schemes costly.

Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago

[email protected] 04-03-2010 04:34 PM

Growing Tobacco
 
just get TMV free seed. it is just as likely that the tomatoes, etc will carry it to
the tobacco. actually it takes a lot of mechanical damage to introduce. tobacco
must be hand suckered to get nice big leaves.

and BTW, the sheds are opened during "casing weather" or during the Jan thaw so the
leaves can absorb enough moisture so they can be packed without breaking.
Ingrid

On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:18:52 -0700, "gloria.p" wrote:

EVP MAN wrote:
As the price of tobacco products shoot sky high it seems more people are
taking an interest in growing their own. I'm considering a dozen or two
plants this spring myself.



If you or a nearby neighbor has a garden that grows tomatoes, please
don't grow tobacco. It often carries the tobacco mosaic virus which
will transmit to tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, some flowers and other
food crops.

gloria p

Somewhere between zone 5 and 6 tucked along the shore of Lake Michigan
on the council grounds of the Fox, Mascouten, Potawatomi, and Winnebago


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