Damage to a tree
 

Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?

Damage to a tree
 

john hamilton wrote:
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?

Only in the sense that it increases the wind loading in winter and may
result in the thing being blown over in storms. A healthy tree can
tolerate ivy growing on it, but the example you show is pretty extreme.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Damage to a tree
 

I go along with what Martin says here, but only you can tell how severe it
is, for example is the tree dead, or is it 'winter'?

There is a very strong case of a Health and Safety matter here for people
attending graves and the possibility of the tree toppling and killing or
injuring someone. With all joking apart about being killed in a graveyard, I
feel that a letter to the Council, a clearly worded letter at that, pointing
out that they might stand to receive a very severe claim if nothing is done
about the tree, then you stand a good chance of having something done.

Don't forget, that once your letter hits the council's desk, 'something' has
to be done. This depending on the council as to whether it is 3, 5 or 7
days.

And finish off the letter that you would support any claim should anything
happen because warning notice has been given.

Send your letter recorded delivery :-))

Helping my daughter and son in law on having two, if possible, but certainly
one tree felled which has is growing on Council public land which has grown
to be a danger to their house. Rather a large claim if it falls and
demolishes part of their house!!!!

Mike

--
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www.shanklinmanormews.co.uk




"Martin Brown" wrote in message
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john hamilton wrote:
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?

Only in the sense that it increases the wind loading in winter and may
result in the thing being blown over in storms. A healthy tree can
tolerate ivy growing on it, but the example you show is pretty extreme.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Damage to a tree
 

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:17:45 +0100, "john hamilton"
wrote:

Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?



According to a certified arborist, ivy wont hurt trees in Tennessee.
As you can see from the picture, the ivy did not canopy over the top
of the tree. It is better to keep the bark and the area surrounding
the tree trunk free from plants, mulch, debris. Keeping this area
clean helps discourage rodents from chewing on the bark, boring
insects, etc. In some parts of the country ivy can be very
aggressive. Just my opinion, a tree trunk covered with ivy is not
good landscaping.

Damage to a tree
 

"john hamilton" wrote in message
...
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?


Unless you want the council to come along and fell the tree, keep this this
info to yourself.

Damage to a tree
 

In article ,
lid says...
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?



If its bothering you why not go and cut the ivy stems near the ground?
Why wait for the council
--
Charlie Pridham, Gardening in Cornwall
www.roselandhouse.co.uk
Holders of national collections of Clematis viticella cultivars and
Lapageria rosea

Damage to a tree
 

"Charlie Pridham" wrote in message
T...
In article ,
lid says...
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them
like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?



If its bothering you why not go and cut the ivy stems near the
ground?
Why wait for the council

I did just that last year on a couple of tree in council owned
land next to my garden. I was fed up with the ivy overshadowing
and spilling over into my garden.

Mike

Damage to a tree
 

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:37:47 +0100, Charlie Pridham
wrote:

In article ,
says...
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?

If its bothering you why not go and cut the ivy stems near the ground?
Why wait for the council

How would you like someone slinking onto your property hacking down
your plants? It would behoove to get permission from the property
owner, in writing... nowadays with cameras everywhere one could find
themselves entangled in a lawsuit for trespass and property damage.

Damage to a tree
 

On Apr 20, 10:28*am, Martin Brown
wrote:
john hamilton wrote:
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this..
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?

Only in the sense that it increases the wind loading in winter and may
result in the thing being blown over in storms. A healthy tree can
tolerate ivy growing on it, but the example you show is pretty extreme.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Windage is a possible problem but assuming the tree is healthy,
probably not a huge danger. I wouldn't encourage those who will seek
any excuse to get rid of a tree - with or without ivy. Trees like
that are also a valuable resource for wildlife in terms of food and
shelter - do we really want to tidy all wildlife out of our lives? I
certainly don't.
In any case we should be expected to look out for ourselves to a
certain extent and who's going to be standing downwind of that tree in
the graveyard during a heavy blow in the unlikely event that it did
fall without warnig.

Rod

Damage to a tree
 

Rod wrote:
On Apr 20, 10:28 am, Martin Brown
wrote:
john hamilton wrote:
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.
See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.
http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5
Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?
Only in the sense that it increases the wind loading in winter and may
result in the thing being blown over in storms. A healthy tree can
tolerate ivy growing on it, but the example you show is pretty extreme.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Windage is a possible problem but assuming the tree is healthy,
probably not a huge danger. I wouldn't encourage those who will seek

I am inclined to think looking at the amount of ivy on that particular
tree that it is *not* in the best of health. A decent tree canopy in
midsummer will prevent the ivy getting quite that far up. So if there
are partially rotten or dead branches I'd say all bets were off.

Horse chestnuts along the roads in Belgium have succumbed to the nasty
fungal disease and brittle limbs would drop onto passing motorists from
time to time when it was windy. There were some fatalities.

any excuse to get rid of a tree - with or without ivy. Trees like
that are also a valuable resource for wildlife in terms of food and
shelter - do we really want to tidy all wildlife out of our lives? I
certainly don't.
In any case we should be expected to look out for ourselves to a
certain extent and who's going to be standing downwind of that tree in
the graveyard during a heavy blow in the unlikely event that it did
fall without warnig.

A chunk of tree is more likely to fall, but do not underestimate how
much damage a 4" diameter bough falling 30' can do.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Damage to a tree
 

On 4/20/10 2:17 AM, john hamilton wrote:
Our local council has a lot of trees with ivy growing on them like this.
They have been notified about it, but they do nothing.

See picture on this link on Tinypic webpage.

http://tinypic.com/r/16hj0iw/5

Would ivy growing like this do any damage to a tree?



There are two issues with ivy growing on trees.

Sometimes, the ivy can become heavy enough to cause limbs to break or
even the whole tree to topple. If the tree variety tends to have deep
roots and if this particular tree is otherwise healthy, then this is not
a problem. However, if the tree variety tends to have shallow roots or
if this particular tree is diseased, the load of ivy shown in the photo
is a major problem.

The other issue involves whether the variety of the tree thrives best
with the bark exposed to the sun or with the bark shaded. For the
former, the ivy must definitely be removed. For the latter, the ivy
should merely be thinned.

In any case, if the tree is otherwise still healthy, just cut the ivy
near the ground. Remove about a one-foot length of ivy all the way
around the tree. Above the cut, the ivy will die and eventually fall
away from the tree. Depending on the two issues discussed above, either
allow new ivy shoots to climb the tree or else keep cutting until the
ivy completely dies.

--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary