Hello all: I haven't followed this group since about 1992. I'm a
small organic, dahlia grower in Iowa, and was wondering about the
rules on this group. Is it moderated? Are you allowed to promote your
own business (e.g., tuber sales)? Can you post a link to your own
website?

I'm accessing the group via Google Groups, and didn't see that these
questions were addressed, other than the general admonition to not
post spam. I suppose any unsolicited promotion might be considered by
some to be spam, but my own criterion is that the advert be repeated
multiple times in a short period. What's the protocol here?

thanks
Al Gabis
Fairfield, Iowa, USA
Info "at" Dahliasorganic DOT com

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dahlias-organic wrote:

Hello all: I haven't followed this group since about 1992. I'm a
small organic, dahlia grower in Iowa, and was wondering about the
rules on this group. Is it moderated? Are you allowed to promote your
own business (e.g., tuber sales)? Can you post a link to your own
website?
Not moderated, and some of us, at least, will take exception to
solicitations.

If you just leave your signature as is and help answer questions, I'm
sure that you will be greeted warmly. Be advised, we do have our own
assortment of loons. Who they are rather depends on your point of view.

I'm accessing the group via Google Groups, and didn't see that these
questions were addressed, other than the general admonition to not
post spam. I suppose any unsolicited promotion might be considered by
some to be spam, but my own criterion is that the advert be repeated
multiple times in a short period. What's the protocol here?
Tightly wrap tape around a roll of dimes.

thanks
Al Gabis
Fairfield, Iowa, USA
Info "at" Dahliasorganic DOT com
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html

On 5/4/2010 2:13 PM, dahlias-organic wrote:
Hello all: I haven't followed this group since about 1992. I'm a
small organic, dahlia grower in Iowa, and was wondering about the
rules on this group. Is it moderated? Are you allowed to promote your
own business (e.g., tuber sales)? Can you post a link to your own
website?

I'm accessing the group via Google Groups, and didn't see that these
questions were addressed, other than the general admonition to not
post spam. I suppose any unsolicited promotion might be considered by
some to be spam, but my own criterion is that the advert be repeated
multiple times in a short period. What's the protocol here?

thanks
Al Gabis
Fairfield, Iowa, USA
Info "at" DahliasorganicDOT com

Well Al, I guess if you do anything too bad I can always find you
because I have a business in Keosauqua, IA which is only about 18 miles
south of you.

Don

dahlias-organic wrote:
Hello all: I haven't followed this group since about 1992. I'm a
small organic, dahlia grower in Iowa, and was wondering about the
rules on this group. Is it moderated? Are you allowed to promote your
own business (e.g., tuber sales)? Can you post a link to your own
website?

I'm accessing the group via Google Groups, and didn't see that these
questions were addressed, other than the general admonition to not
post spam. I suppose any unsolicited promotion might be considered by
some to be spam, but my own criterion is that the advert be repeated
multiple times in a short period. What's the protocol here?

thanks
Al Gabis
Fairfield, Iowa, USA
Info "at" Dahliasorganic DOT com

I think genuine involvement will get you much further than empty spamming.

David

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"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

dahlias-organic wrote:
Hello all: I haven't followed this group since about 1992. I'm a
small organic, dahlia grower in Iowa, and was wondering about the
rules on this group. Is it moderated? Are you allowed to promote your
own business (e.g., tuber sales)? Can you post a link to your own
website?

I'm accessing the group via Google Groups, and didn't see that these
questions were addressed, other than the general admonition to not
post spam. I suppose any unsolicited promotion might be considered by
some to be spam, but my own criterion is that the advert be repeated
multiple times in a short period. What's the protocol here?

thanks
Al Gabis
Fairfield, Iowa, USA
Info "at" Dahliasorganic DOT com

I think genuine involvement will get you much further than empty spamming.

David

I agree. What can Al offer ?

--
Bill S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
What use one more wake up call?

On May 4, 4:21*pm, IGot2P wrote:
On 5/4/2010 2:13 PM, dahlias-organic wrote:

Well Al, I guess if you do anything too bad I can always find you
because I have a business in Keosauqua, IA which is only about 18 miles
south of you.

Don

Hey Don: We're neighbors! Small world. Stop by the dahlia bed if
you're up in the FF area. Easy to find -- east of MUM's tennis courts.
Not much to see right now -- but when flowers start blooming in late
July, it's becomes an attraction.


regards
Al

On May 4, 6:12*pm, Bill who putters wrote:

I think genuine involvement will get you much further than empty spamming.

David

*I agree. *What can Al offer ?

--
Bill *S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
*What use one more wake up call? *

Bill and David: My real passions lie in other areas. The dahlia
enterprise is a backdrop for a foray into community development;
social and political activism at the grass roots (with a book on the
way). We need a new paradigm. But politics is a very tough arena --
nasty in fact. I'd like to see more people connecting with the earth.
Many folks garden as a hobby, but we need people who are willing to
try farming for a living (farming the way we used to -- not the
commodity, monocrop, factory operations that we have now). So I'm
trying to set the example by doing. Organic flowers is just a niche.
But a beautiful one, and one that I enjoy. Not many people do it,
because it tough to make an actual living at it. At least, if you're
focused on a local market. My market here in rural SE Iowa is quite
small, so I'm feeling my way into this whole thing.

IN terms of contributing as a gardener, I have no doubt most folks on
this board are far more knowledgeable, but I will certainly keep my
ears open and throw in my 2 cents if I think it has any value. A long
time ago, when I used to read this group fairly regularly, there were
some real experts who came online -- professorial types. I wonder if
any of them are still around?

Here's my tip of the week. Just recently heard a lady named Elaine
Ingham speak. She's an expert in compost, and the application of
compost tea. Listening to her, you come away believing that there is
absolutely *nothing* that can't be accomplished in the garden, or on
the farm, using compost tea (*correctly brewed*, I should add). Her
success stories are spectacular -- indeed, almost unbelievably so. And
on gigantic scales -- thousands of hectares! Boy is she ever
convincing, and obviously knows her biology! Her website is:
http://www.soilfoodweb.com

cheers
Al Gabis
www.DahliasOrganic.com

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:22:06 -0700 (PDT), dahlias-organic
wrote:

On May 4, 6:12*pm, Bill who putters wrote:

I think genuine involvement will get you much further than empty spamming.

David

*I agree. *What can Al offer ?

--
Bill *S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
*What use one more wake up call? *

Bill and David: My real passions lie in other areas. The dahlia
enterprise is a backdrop for a foray into community development;
social and political activism at the grass roots (with a book on the
way). We need a new paradigm. But politics is a very tough arena --
nasty in fact. I'd like to see more people connecting with the earth.
Many folks garden as a hobby, but we need people who are willing to
try farming for a living (farming the way we used to -- not the
commodity, monocrop, factory operations that we have now). So I'm
trying to set the example by doing. Organic flowers is just a niche.
But a beautiful one, and one that I enjoy. Not many people do it,
because it tough to make an actual living at it. At least, if you're
focused on a local market. My market here in rural SE Iowa is quite
small, so I'm feeling my way into this whole thing.

My small experience with growing and selling organic flowers is that
none of the humans cared that they were organic. I applaud your
efforts!

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wrote:

On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:22:06 -0700 (PDT), dahlias-organic
wrote:

On May 4, 6:12*pm, Bill who putters wrote:

I think genuine involvement will get you much further than empty
spamming.

David

*I agree. *What can Al offer ?

--
Bill *S. Jersey USA zone 5 shade garden
*What use one more wake up call? *

Bill and David: My real passions lie in other areas. The dahlia
enterprise is a backdrop for a foray into community development;
social and political activism at the grass roots (with a book on the
way). We need a new paradigm. But politics is a very tough arena --
nasty in fact. I'd like to see more people connecting with the earth.
Many folks garden as a hobby, but we need people who are willing to
try farming for a living (farming the way we used to -- not the
commodity, monocrop, factory operations that we have now). So I'm
trying to set the example by doing. Organic flowers is just a niche.
But a beautiful one, and one that I enjoy. Not many people do it,
because it tough to make an actual living at it. At least, if you're
focused on a local market. My market here in rural SE Iowa is quite
small, so I'm feeling my way into this whole thing.

My small experience with growing and selling organic flowers is that
none of the humans cared that they were organic. I applaud your
efforts!

That's a shame, that your buyers didn't care about buying organic,
because when you say "organic", it means that you are making top soil, a
swiftly disappearing necessity for a healthy environment.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUg
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn/HZinn_page.html