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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
Chaps
Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. rob ps had freshly cut asparagus for tea. Will be sharing results with workmates tomorrow by looks of it |
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You going to use apples you've grown yourself?
I like the food processor idea though!
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
In article , "George"
wrote: Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. rob ps had freshly cut asparagus for tea. Will be sharing results with workmates tomorrow by looks of it I'm not familiar with garbage disposals, but make sure it doesn't leach toxics into your brew (lead for example). Use stainless steel fittings where possible (bolts and nuts), and paint non-stainless metal with food grade paint. -- - Billy "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini. http://www.democracynow.org/2010/7/2/maude http://english.aljazeera.net/video/m...515308172.html |
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
George wrote:
Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I've read several references about using disposals. Seems they work fine. I'd choose one made of stainless, not galvanized metal, and clean/sanitize it well, expecially if it is a used unit. Large apples may be a problem with household units, requireing cutting which commercial press grinders wouldn't. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. With the wooden press "bucket, you're pretty close to how a commercial press works. How can you go wrong as long as your structure can take the forces? Mine has the sides of the staves tapered so that any material that squeezes through the inside spaces finds more space as it moves, so it doesn't jam in the gaps, making cleaning difficult. |
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 15:36:06 -0700, "Bob F"
wrote: George wrote: Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I've read several references about using disposals. Seems they work fine. I'd choose one made of stainless, not galvanized metal, and clean/sanitize it well, expecially if it is a used unit. Large apples may be a problem with household units, requireing cutting which commercial press grinders wouldn't. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. With the wooden press "bucket, you're pretty close to how a commercial press works. How can you go wrong as long as your structure can take the forces? Mine has the sides of the staves tapered so that any material that squeezes through the inside spaces finds more space as it moves, so it doesn't jam in the gaps, making cleaning difficult. Meat grinder with a large holed plate. |
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
"Bob F" wrote in message ... George wrote: Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I've read several references about using disposals. Seems they work fine. I'd choose one made of stainless, not galvanized metal, and clean/sanitize it well, expecially if it is a used unit. Bought an old disposal system today from a recycle store - $10. It's a "goblin" brand and old as the hills. Heavy as buggery, heavy duty and made to last. Should last the job ok. If it breaks it is only $10. I have partially taken it apart. I do want to get the grinding plate off as well as the copper (shows how old it is) waste pipe. Both totally rusted on it seems or both twisted on so tightly when made. I have soaked with CRC and will see how that goes. Once freed I plan to run over all the internal surfaces with a wire brush on drill to buff away all the dirt. Then give maybe a water blast and then a really good scrubbing and a wipe down with bleach. Once taken apart once, I can do so again for cleaning if I need to. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. With the wooden press "bucket, you're pretty close to how a commercial press works. How can you go wrong as long as your structure can take the forces? Mine has the sides of the staves tapered so that any material that squeezes through the inside spaces finds more space as it moves, so it doesn't jam in the gaps, making cleaning difficult. I found some appropriate hard wood for the bucket and some building strap. I will pop rivet the wood to the straps. I think that will hold well enough. rob |
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
George wrote:
"Bob F" wrote in message ... George wrote: Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I've read several references about using disposals. Seems they work fine. I'd choose one made of stainless, not galvanized metal, and clean/sanitize it well, expecially if it is a used unit. Bought an old disposal system today from a recycle store - $10. It's a "goblin" brand and old as the hills. Heavy as buggery, heavy duty and made to last. Should last the job ok. If it breaks it is only $10. I have partially taken it apart. I do want to get the grinding plate off as well as the copper (shows how old it is) waste pipe. Both totally rusted on it seems or both twisted on so tightly when made. I have soaked with CRC and will see how that goes. Once freed I plan to run over all the internal surfaces with a wire brush on drill to buff away all the dirt. Then give maybe a water blast and then a really good scrubbing and a wipe down with bleach. Once taken apart once, I can do so again for cleaning if I need to. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. With the wooden press "bucket, you're pretty close to how a commercial press works. How can you go wrong as long as your structure can take the forces? Mine has the sides of the staves tapered so that any material that squeezes through the inside spaces finds more space as it moves, so it doesn't jam in the gaps, making cleaning difficult. I found some appropriate hard wood for the bucket and some building strap. I will pop rivet the wood to the straps. I think that will hold well enough. My press has the staves screwed on so no holes go all the way through the staves, which are 3/4" thick an maybe 1" wide at the inside. |
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cider making - labour saving devices (Billy, charles et al)
"Bob F" wrote in message ... George wrote: "Bob F" wrote in message ... George wrote: Chaps Looking forward to he next cider making season, a few months down the line, I had a brainwave for a labour saving device. Rather than putting chopped up apples through a food processor (and having wrecked 2 in the process) I thought of using a waste disposal unit. Get a second hand unit (preferably free) and place it in an old sink unit (preferably free). Get it wired up with a plug (will probably have to pay for that). Mount it on a stand and away laughing. Switch on, shove apples through unit, collect pulp in a bucket underneath. From there straight into the press. I've read several references about using disposals. Seems they work fine. I'd choose one made of stainless, not galvanized metal, and clean/sanitize it well, expecially if it is a used unit. Bought an old disposal system today from a recycle store - $10. It's a "goblin" brand and old as the hills. Heavy as buggery, heavy duty and made to last. Should last the job ok. If it breaks it is only $10. I have partially taken it apart. I do want to get the grinding plate off as well as the copper (shows how old it is) waste pipe. Both totally rusted on it seems or both twisted on so tightly when made. I have soaked with CRC and will see how that goes. Once freed I plan to run over all the internal surfaces with a wire brush on drill to buff away all the dirt. Then give maybe a water blast and then a really good scrubbing and a wipe down with bleach. Once taken apart once, I can do so again for cleaning if I need to. I also had a brainwave with the press. Up to now using a cheap crap jig (rebuilt a few times), plastic buckets (broke 3-4 of these) and a bottle jack. I got hold of a round steel tin I was going to use. Better still however, build a proper wooden press bucket. Get hold of some unstained hardwood and build a bucket, strapped together with some sort of long building strap, gang nail plate etc. Rebuild jig to hold bucket in place, continue to use bottle jack. With the wooden press "bucket, you're pretty close to how a commercial press works. How can you go wrong as long as your structure can take the forces? Mine has the sides of the staves tapered so that any material that squeezes through the inside spaces finds more space as it moves, so it doesn't jam in the gaps, making cleaning difficult. I found some appropriate hard wood for the bucket and some building strap. I will pop rivet the wood to the straps. I think that will hold well enough. My press has the staves screwed on so no holes go all the way through the staves, which are 3/4" thick an maybe 1" wide at the inside. Mine are 4 cm by 2 cm Bob. I finally got the grinding plate out of the disposal unit. What a mission. Got help with the neighbour eventually, we drilled out the bolt head. Reverse thread screw but no indication of it. Totally jammed up with gunk. Man, a bit of cleaning to be done. Will need a good wire brush out. A couple of seals will also need replacing if I can get them. Still should save on $200 for a new one - if I can get this back together. Still can't get the copper pipe off though. Rubber seal has well perished and who knows what else is holding it on. Some locktite maybe. rob |
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