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Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked.
The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass every where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. Concrete pavement. |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Helen Middlemas writes:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen |
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On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Good luck. HB |
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Higgs Boson writes:
On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. Yeah, I hesitated to mention Roundup. We have some posters here that get irrational. Nothing at all wrong with it when used for the right way. When a pro comes in to give you a new lawn, they kill the old lawn/weeds with Roundup. A little later they put in seeds, and new then nice new lawn. New grass grows, right after the terrible Roundup. Go figure. A membrane has to be something like landscape cloth. -- Dan Espen |
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On 3/24/2014 6:42 AM, Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks In the U.S., grass-specific herbicides are available. I use Gress-Getter, which has the same active ingredient as Poast. The instructions inidcate mixing Grass-Getter with agricultural oil (a very light oil) as a wetting agent; but I use liquid soap instead. This is very effective where grass and non-grass plants grow together and I only want to kill the grass. The active ingredient is Sethoxydim: 2-[1-(ethoxyimino) butyl]-5-[2-(ethylthio)propyl]-3-hydroxy-2-cyclohexen-1-one -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Helen Middlemas wrote:
Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks As others have said use glyphosate. Roundup is the trade name of the original and (often) the most expensive version. Follow the directions for use and safety instructions carefully. The point about using it effectively is to use it when the plant is growing strongly so that firstly it is absorbed through the leaves and secondly it is carried down to the roots through the plant's system. Some people use it when the plant is dormant thinking when the plant is weaker it is vulnerable: wrong. Avoid spraying when rain is coming or before using a sprinkler as if you wash it off before it is absorbed it won't work, contact in itself does nothing. D |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:15:55 PM UTC-4, mlcwa wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. -- Dan Espen In my experience Roundup is not strong enough. Find something that says it will Kill All. MJ |
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Dan.Espen wrote:
I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. |
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Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. If find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss. Not really the same thing. Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something. -- Dan Espen |
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On 3/24/2014 10:26 PM, David Hare-Scott wrote:
Helen Middlemas wrote: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Thanks As others have said use glyphosate. Roundup is the trade name of the original and (often) the most expensive version. Follow the directions for use and safety instructions carefully. The point about using it effectively is to use it when the plant is growing strongly so that firstly it is absorbed through the leaves and secondly it is carried down to the roots through the plant's system. Some people use it when the plant is dormant thinking when the plant is weaker it is vulnerable: wrong. Avoid spraying when rain is coming or before using a sprinkler as if you wash it off before it is absorbed it won't work, contact in itself does nothing. I once read that, for vigorous perennial weeds, mix RoundUp slightly less strong than the label instructions. It does damage the entire plant not just the roots. By making it a bit weak, you ensure that it does indeed reach the roots instead of killing the path to the roots. For any spray or brush-on chemical, I always add liquid soap as a wetting agent. -- David E. Ross Climate: California Mediterranean, see http://www.rossde.com/garden/climate.html Gardening diary at http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary |
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On 3/24/2014 12:15 PM, Dan.Espen wrote:
Helen Middlemas writes: Hi All, I am desperate for some help in killing grass off on an area we spent a fortune on last year with membranes, large gravel etc only to find that there is grass ever where we look. We have tried bleach, salt, black discinfectant, boiling water and not a thing has worked. The problem we think is we have is that our neighbours decided to seed a brand new lawn last year. And every couple of weeks they were reseeding it. Now we have patches of grass all over it. The membrane was a good membrane and we did everything we should. In the rear it worked ok. But in the front it is terrible. Our front garden is not used, only to look at basically, but we need something super super strong that will kill this grass once and for all. We have tried pulling it out by hand and that has not stopped it at all due to obviously remaining roots. It cost hundreds of pounds to get it done which we really didn't have, a huge amount of back breaking hours and it looks utterly dreadful. Can anyone please recommend something which is fantastically strong and will do the job. We have already spent quite a bit of money sorting it out and are no further forward at all. Roundup. Salt is not a good idea. Salt and strong acids can do a job on concrete. I suspect strong acetic acid and even vinegar would do it to. Tried and true methods like flame, Roundup and even covering completely from sun light would work. |
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Brooklyn1 writes:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen) wrote: Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. You'd have to see it. It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees. It blocks the morning sun, until around 11AM. After then the sun is still not high enough to clear the peak, the roof is about 45 degrees. Then after 1PM the rest of the house blocks the roof with the worst problem. Like I said, lasts year I hit it a couple of times with bleach and it didn't look quite as robust as before. Right now (winter) there's not much there. I'll get it this year or call one of those roof cleaning outfits. I'd guess zinc strips would deal with it too. Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least environmental impact. That's why I started with an oxidizer (bleach). Just looked. I'd say about half of it is gone. -- Dan Espen |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:42:45 -0400, Frank
wrote: On 3/25/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen) wrote: Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss. Not really the same thing. Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun. So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop. Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss, then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks unsightly. Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something. Yes, I'd not put it off. Good idea to seal your driveway. There is enough free space in the composite to allow moisture intrusion and repeated freezing and thawing will degrade it faster. Sealing won't stop moss from growing. |
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Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: Brooklyn1writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. You'd have to see it. You'd have to show it. It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees. Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least environmental impact. There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact is your wallet. |
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David E. Ross wrote:
As others have said use glyphosate. Roundup is the trade name of the original and (often) the most expensive version. Follow the directions for use and safety instructions carefully. The point about using it effectively is to use it when the plant is growing strongly so that firstly it is absorbed through the leaves and secondly it is carried down to the roots through the plant's system. Some people use it when the plant is dormant thinking when the plant is weaker it is vulnerable: wrong. Avoid spraying when rain is coming or before using a sprinkler as if you wash it off before it is absorbed it won't work, contact in itself does nothing. I once read that, for vigorous perennial weeds, mix RoundUp slightly less strong than the label instructions. It does damage the entire plant not just the roots. By making it a bit weak, you ensure that it does indeed reach the roots instead of killing the path to the roots. For any spray or brush-on chemical, I always add liquid soap as a wetting agent. This is a good idea, the later versions of Roundup contain a wetting agent. D |
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On 3/25/2014 5:42 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:42:45 -0400, Frank wrote: On 3/25/2014 3:19 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 10:33:39 -0400, (Dan.Espen) wrote: Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. I find it odd that you think a fungicide will work on moss. Not really the same thing. Not the same but it works... moss grows on my black top driveway in front of the garage door because that faces north and never sees sun. So each spring I spray that area with tile grout cleaner and apply elbow grease with a stiff brushed scrubber... actually what I first used is vinyl siding cleaner compound that contains an anti mildew agent, I discovered it works on moss when I power washd my house and the compound ran down my driveway, only I can't use a power washer on blacktop or it will lift out the stones and leave holes, with heavy use a power washer even on a low setting will destroy blacktop. Whatever the chemical(s) in that power washer cleaner it kills moss, then it can take a month or two for the dead moss to decay and wash away. But naturally during the next summer it grows back, and I can't prune my garage. The moss won't harm my driveway but it looks unsightly. Thanks for the pointers on the urgency. I know I have to do something. Yes, I'd not put it off. Good idea to seal your driveway. There is enough free space in the composite to allow moisture intrusion and repeated freezing and thawing will degrade it faster. Sealing won't stop moss from growing. No, I get it on smoother surfaces like aluminum siding. Just thinking, if pressure washer can remove stones, it may need sealing. |
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 14:53:04 -0700, Todd wrote:
On 03/25/2014 02:49 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote: There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact is your wallet. It messes up your radio and tv reception. And it lasts forever if done right. And, think of how much easier it is to walk without that big lump in your wallet! :-) Be careful of galvanic corrosion. You just have to get the right screws and stuff and a roofer that knows what he is doing. Sounds to me like cheap ******* disease. |
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Brooklyn1 writes:
Dan.Espen wrote: Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: Brooklyn1writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. You'd have to see it. You'd have to show it. The roof on the left is the worst one. That was 13 years ago. That stand of trees is much larger now: http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/dec...r-compact.html It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees. Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least environmental impact. There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact is your wallet. I'm not going to put a metal roof on a colonial. Especially not one section and leave the rest with red shingles. And I'm not going to lose the roof either. Have some faith, I'll take care of the problem. -- Dan Espen |
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Dan.Espen wrote:
Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: Brooklyn1 writes: Dan.Espen wrote: Brooklyn1writes: Dan.Espen wrote: I have roof moss and Roundup just doesn't seem right, maybe I'll try the vinegar there. I tried dilute bleach and got a subdued reaction from the moss. It's very easy to get rid of roof moss, remove whatever is shading the roof, then spray with bathroom tile mildew remover... if you do not remove whatever is shading the area the moss will come right back... I'd not wait too long before rectifying your problem either, moss indicates a moisture problem, your roof will soon be leaking as the roofing and sheathing beneath will be ruined, and home owner insurance will not cover your neglect. Well, the shade can't be cured. Neighbors huge trees. I know they won't remove them. It's pretty shady anyway, as the house faces directly south and theses are in the back. You can legally remove whatever parts of those trees cross your property line, from hell to heaven, just at your expense.. might pay to discuss this with your neihgbor and come up with a plan whereas his trees aren't pruned so heavily that they look unsightly and then share the cost. If that doesn't stop the moss from growing it won't be too long you'll need your roof repaired so I suggest before your roof leaks and does horrendous damage inside your house you have that section replaced with a different roofing materal, possibly a roofer will suggest metal roofing for that section. You'd have to see it. You'd have to show it. The roof on the left is the worst one. That was 13 years ago. That stand of trees is much larger now: http://mysite.verizon.net/despen/dec...r-compact.html Would help to see a recent photo that shows more of the roof and offending trees than the ground. It's not one tree it's an entire stand of trees. Right now I'm trying to find the solution that works with the least environmental impact. There's no environmental impact with a metal roof... the only impact is your wallet. I'm not going to put a metal roof on a colonial. Especially not one section and leave the rest with red shingles. And I'm not going to lose the roof either. Have some faith, I'll take care of the problem. That photo was quite a while ago and your roof looks old then, perhaps it's time for a new roof anyway. And today's metal roofs are gorgeous, highly desireable, and they are used on all styles of homes, and in that photo I don't see a colonial, I see no second story, looks more like a ranch. But no matter, metal roofs (standing seam) look great on all sorts of buildings. http://www.ascbp.com/gallery/index.html http://www.atas.com/photo-gallery/project-of-the-year |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:37:36 PM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote:
Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. I WOULD LOVE TO! I HATE THE WAY THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD. Just haven't had the time or ability to find an email client that allows entry to news groups with more flexibility than GG. Would also like to have killfiling ability, for example, in another NG that gives good advice on [subject] but is also polluted with scary ***************. Someone suggested Thunderbird way back, and I tried, but it got too complicated for moi. Yeah, I hesitated to mention Roundup. We have some posters here that get irrational. Nothing at all wrong with it when used for the right way. When a pro comes in to give you a new lawn, they kill the old lawn/weeds with Roundup. A little later they put in seeds, and new then nice new lawn. New grass grows, right after the terrible Roundup. Go figure. A membrane has to be something like landscape cloth. Tx. HB |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
Higgs Boson writes:
On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:37:36 PM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. I WOULD LOVE TO! I HATE THE WAY THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD. Just haven't had the time or ability to find an email client that allows entry to news groups with more flexibility than GG. Would also like to have killfiling ability, for example, in another NG that gives good advice on [subject] but is also polluted with scary ***************. Someone suggested Thunderbird way back, and I tried, but it got too complicated for moi. Another mangled post. Just about any email client SHOULD do the job, but a specialized news client is usually better. Back when I tried Mozilla (Thunderbird precursor) it was pretty damn simple. You should have tried harder. -- Dan Espen |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:57:48 -0400, (Dan.Espen)
wrote: Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:37:36 PM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. I WOULD LOVE TO! I HATE THE WAY THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD. Just haven't had the time or ability to find an email client that allows entry to news groups with more flexibility than GG. Would also like to have killfiling ability, for example, in another NG that gives good advice on [subject] but is also polluted with scary ***************. Someone suggested Thunderbird way back, and I tried, but it got too complicated for moi. Another mangled post. Just about any email client SHOULD do the job, but a specialized news client is usually better. Back when I tried Mozilla (Thunderbird precursor) it was pretty damn simple. You should have tried harder. Forte Agent works fine: http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:17:50 AM UTC-7, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 09:57:48 -0400, (Dan.Espen) wrote: Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 12:37:36 PM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Higgs Boson writes: On Monday, March 24, 2014 9:15:55 AM UTC-7, mlcwa wrote: Helen Middlemas writes: I was just about to suggest the infamous Roundup. Sometimes one has to take a detour around one's principles g If you use it, be sure to follow directions. Important is to water well before applying. Definitely, salt is a no-no. Look back in history at how conquerers sowed the land of their defeated enemies with salt. What is a "membrane"? Is that a UK term? Don't remember hearing it Over Here. Damn, some fool used GG and double spaced the entire thread. I've fixed the little part I'm replying too. Anyway, give us a break and DUMP GG. I WOULD LOVE TO! I HATE THE WAY THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE WORLD. Just haven't had the time or ability to find an email client that allows entry to news groups with more flexibility than GG. Would also like to have killfiling ability, for example, in another NG that gives good advice on [subject] but is also polluted with scary ***************. Someone suggested Thunderbird way back, and I tried, but it got too complicated for moi. Another mangled post. Just about any email client SHOULD do the job, but a specialized news client is usually better. Back when I tried Mozilla (Thunderbird precursor) it was pretty damn simple. You should have tried harder. Forte Agent works fine: http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php Actually, I was a faithful Agent user for YEARS, way back. It was considered one of the most powerful email clients. Can't remember why I didn't upgrade from earlier versions, which are by now much more sophisticated. I think it was when they made you pay extra for NG access? Whatever the reason, it was a bad decision. From time to time I tell myself to get back with Agent, then put it off, overwhelmed by daily **** and the apprehension that I might not be able to handle the later builds. Maybe this will give me the requisite kick in the pants. Tx to all. HB |
Desperate Help To Kill Grass
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:30:51 AM UTC-7, Todd wrote:
On 03/27/2014 11:24 AM, Higgs Boson wrote: Back when I tried Mozilla (Thunderbird precursor) it was pretty damn simple. You should have tried harder. Forte Agent works fine:http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php Actually, I was a faithful Agent user for YEARS, way back. It was considered one of the most powerful email clients. Can't remember why I didn't upgrade from earlier versions, which are by now much more sophisticated. I think it was when they made you pay extra for NG access? Whatever the reason, it was a bad decision. From time to time I tell myself to get back with Agent, then put it off, overwhelmed by daily **** and the apprehension that I might not be able to handle the later builds. Maybe this will give me the requisite kick in the pants. Tx to all. HB Hi Higgs, I support Thunderbird professionally. If you decide to give it a try, if you need help, you can always ping me in the subject line. You have helped me with so many other things and stayed a complete gentleman when we have disagreed on things, I'd be tickled to be able to help you back. Aw Todd, ya made mah day! I'll keep your generous offer in mind as I attempt to move out of the universe dominated by the 800 lb Google gorilla! HB |
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