First of the season showed up two weeks ago!

More proof of you-know-what.

Last June, I put in a whole bunch of plants, but got zip fruit, though that's supposed to be their season in this latitude (34 N.) Gritted my teeth,
took good care of them; hoped for next June.

Whaddya know, mid-March, they're taking off!

HB

Hypatia Nachshon wrote:

First of the season showed up two weeks ago!




....
Last June, I put in a whole bunch of plants, but got zip fruit, though that's supposed to be their season in this latitude (34 N.) Gritted my teeth,
took good care of them; hoped for next June.

if you planted them in June that is too late
for them to flower and put on fruit for the same
month, but i have had plants put on flowers and
fruit while still in the pots and even survive
the transplanting as long as the roots are not
too disturbed and the watering is kept up.
usually i remove all but one flower/fruit if
i'm transplanting and they do ok.


Whaddya know, mid-March, they're taking off!

i've had first flowers anywhere from March 11
to the end of June. are your plants flowering
now or showing signs of waking up from dormancy?

this year i've only checked the plants so far
and they are doing well because they had full snow
cover the whole season. nice and green. eventually
i will have to peel back the thin layer of pine
needles once the weather actually warms up to where
it isn't freezing overnight.


songbird

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:38:54 AM UTC-7, songbird wrote:
Hypatia Nachshon wrote:

First of the season showed up two weeks ago!




...
Last June, I put in a whole bunch of plants, but got zip fruit, though that's supposed to be their season in this latitude (34 N.) Gritted my teeth,
took good care of them; hoped for next June.

if you planted them in June that is too late
for them to flower and put on fruit for the same
month,

Yeah, I was too lazybusy to get plants in sooner...my bad...but I'm sill disappointed that good-sized plants, properly transplanted from nursery pots,
should have just settled in comfortably but produced zip fruit.

o e but i have had plants put on flowers and
fruit while still in the pots and even survive
the transplanting as long as the roots are not
too disturbed and the watering is kept up.
usually i remove all but one flower/fruit if
i'm transplanting and they do ok.


Whaddya know, mid-March, they're taking off!

i've had first flowers anywhere from March 11
to the end of June. are your plants flowering
now or showing signs of waking up from dormancy?

Plants are beginning to flower; a few already bearing fruit.

I don't understand about "dormancy". AFAIK, this happens in colder climates. T/F? Mine is "Mediterranean" --So. Calif coastal, with mild temps; no frost*.
So would dormancy actually be a factor?

this year i've only checked the plants so far
and they are doing well because they had full snow
cover the whole season. nice and green. eventually
i will have to peel back the thin layer of pine
needles once the weather actually warms up to where
it isn't freezing overnight.


songbird

* by contrast with David Ross, who is not on the Coast but just over the mountain in the San Fernando Valley. ISTR they do get frost sometimes.

HB

Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
songbird wrote:
Hypatia Nachshon wrote:

First of the season showed up two weeks ago!




...
Last June, I put in a whole bunch of plants, but got zip fruit, though that's supposed to be their season in this latitude (34 N.) Gritted my teeth,
took good care of them; hoped for next June.

if you planted them in June that is too late
for them to flower and put on fruit for the same
month,

Yeah, I was too lazybusy to get plants in sooner...my bad...but I'm sill disappointed that good-sized plants, properly transplanted from nursery pots,
should have just settled in comfortably but produced zip fruit.

they may have already flowered and had the flowers
and fruits removed by the time you bought them. for
one crop varieties (often called june bearing plants
in N.A.) once that phase is past you won't see a new
round of flowers until the next season.


....
Whaddya know, mid-March, they're taking off!

i've had first flowers anywhere from March 11
to the end of June. are your plants flowering
now or showing signs of waking up from dormancy?

Plants are beginning to flower; a few already bearing fruit.

ah, good to hear. seeing any bees/flies on
them?


I don't understand about "dormancy". AFAIK, this happens in colder climates. T/F? Mine is "Mediterranean" --So. Calif coastal, with mild temps; no frost*.
So would dormancy actually be a factor?

i know for the varieties i have here that it is
temperature and moisture that determine when they'll
start to bloom and not day length. after that it is
the variety and moisture which determines if the
plant blooms again or not up until the temperatures
get too cold again.


songbird

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 9:36:40 AM UTC-7, songbird wrote:
Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
songbird wrote:
Hypatia Nachshon wrote:

First of the season showed up two weeks ago!




...
Last June, I put in a whole bunch of plants, but got zip fruit, though that's supposed to be their season in this latitude (34 N.) Gritted my teeth,
took good care of them; hoped for next June.

if you planted them in June that is too late
for them to flower and put on fruit for the same
month,

Yeah, I was too lazybusy to get plants in sooner...my bad...but I'm sill disappointed that good-sized plants, properly transplanted from nursery pots,
should have just settled in comfortably but produced zip fruit.

they may have already flowered and had the flowers
and fruits removed by the time you bought them. for
one crop varieties (often called june bearing plants
in N.A.) once that phase is past you won't see a new
round of flowers until the next season.


...
Whaddya know, mid-March, they're taking off!

i've had first flowers anywhere from March 11
to the end of June. are your plants flowering
now or showing signs of waking up from dormancy?

Plants are beginning to flower; a few already bearing fruit.

ah, good to hear. seeing any bees/flies on
them?


I don't understand about "dormancy". AFAIK, this happens in colder climates. T/F? Mine is "Mediterranean" --So. Calif coastal, with mild temps; no frost*.
So would dormancy actually be a factor?

i know for the varieties i have here that it is
temperature and moisture that determine when they'll
start to bloom and not day length. after that it is
the variety and moisture which determines if the
plant blooms again or not up until the temperatures
get too cold again.


songbird

Songie, the plants I put in last year were not (all? didn't keep good track) June-bearing. I usually try to put in varieties that will bear longer.

Right now, I need to stop dithering (my specialty!) and put in more fraises du bois. I kept 5-6 plants going since last year, but want to add to them.
Taste SO exquisite -- but you need to look carefully; those shy little beauties try to hide g

HB

Once upon a time on usenet wrote:
[snipped]
Right now, I need to stop dithering (my specialty!) and put in more
fraises du bois. I kept 5-6 plants going since last year, but want
to add to them. Taste SO exquisite -- but you need to look carefully;
those shy little beauties try to hide g

I used to pick those in the woods in England as a child - beautiful tasting
things, always seemed nicer than the big meaty things you'd grow yourself or
buy in the shops.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 4:15:20 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet wrote:
[snipped]
Right now, I need to stop dithering (my specialty!) and put in more
fraises du bois. I kept 5-6 plants going since last year, but want
to add to them. Taste SO exquisite -- but you need to look carefully;
those shy little beauties try to hide g

I used to pick those in the woods in England as a child - beautiful tasting
things, always seemed nicer than the big meaty things you'd grow yourself or
buy in the shops.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

Yeah!

I just spent time on-line looking for a local-ish vendor in So.Cal coastal.
Anybody have a clue? Would rather not order bare-root w/shipping charges if I can find live plants.

David Ross in same general area -- any suggestions?

TIA

HB

Once upon a time on usenet Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 4:15:20 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet wrote:
[snipped]
Right now, I need to stop dithering (my specialty!) and put in more
fraises du bois. I kept 5-6 plants going since last year, but want
to add to them. Taste SO exquisite -- but you need to look
carefully; those shy little beauties try to hide g

I used to pick those in the woods in England as a child - beautiful
tasting things, always seemed nicer than the big meaty things you'd
grow yourself or buy in the shops.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief
has a cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

Yeah!

I just spent time on-line looking for a local-ish vendor in So.Cal
coastal.
Anybody have a clue? Would rather not order bare-root w/shipping
charges if I can find live plants.

David Ross in same general area -- any suggestions?

I used to pick mine around Chedworth in the Cotswolds. There was a disused
railway there and they grew along the side. However the best and most
abundant were on and around the Roman villa there, back in the days when
anyone could walk into the site and fossick.

As a curious child I occasionally found very large snails with white shells
in the area and even, rarely, in the garden. However I couldn't find then in
any of the available textbooks. A few years ago (and nearly a half-century
later) I saw an article on the BBC site about this 'new' discovery in the
area; An isolated population of large snails thought to be descended from
snails that the Romans bought with them and 'farmed'. Hah! Where was the BBC
when I was asking about them way back when? ;-)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 at 3:51:40 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Hypatia Nachshon wrote:
On Tuesday, April 7, 2015 at 4:15:20 AM UTC-7, ~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet wrote:
[snipped]
Right now, I need to stop dithering (my specialty!) and put in more
fraises du bois. I kept 5-6 plants going since last year, but want
to add to them. Taste SO exquisite -- but you need to look
carefully; those shy little beauties try to hide g

I used to pick those in the woods in England as a child - beautiful
tasting things, always seemed nicer than the big meaty things you'd
grow yourself or buy in the shops.
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief
has a cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

Yeah!

I just spent time on-line looking for a local-ish vendor in So.Cal
coastal.
Anybody have a clue? Would rather not order bare-root w/shipping
charges if I can find live plants.

David Ross in same general area -- any suggestions?

I used to pick mine around Chedworth in the Cotswolds. There was a disused
railway there and they grew along the side. However the best and most
abundant were on and around the Roman villa there, back in the days when
anyone could walk into the site and fossick.

As a curious child I occasionally found very large snails with white shells
in the area and even, rarely, in the garden. However I couldn't find then in
any of the available textbooks. A few years ago (and nearly a half-century
later) I saw an article on the BBC site about this 'new' discovery in the
area; An isolated population of large snails thought to be descended from
snails that the Romans bought with them and 'farmed'. Hah! Where was the BBC
when I was asking about them way back when? ;-)
--
Shaun.

"Humans will have advanced a long, long, way when religious belief has a
cozy little classification in the DSM."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)

Love this stuff, Misfit! Keep it coming!

HB

"I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance,
or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others."
- Thomas Jefferson, 1803