Hello,

I am wanting a barrier ( approx 7ft high x 3feet in width x 7ft length) - ideally for soundproofing my garden near my house. ( annoying neighbours! )

Money as always an object, the best solution i can see ( aside from move! ) is a Gabion Wall, now they look attractive and seem to of come back in fashion as well.

My question is, are they stable enough - being 3ft across - approx x 7ft high - aware i require good quality wire baskets, and over time will likely give...but just wanting to know from anyone with more knowledge than me in the trade..

..simple enough idea? I buy several 'cages' lay them down on cement floor, tied together, through in some 'cheap quarry rocks' and bobs' your uncle? Job done?

Or..is there a bit more too it than that? Breezeblock wall better way to go?

Appreciate your time and any replies.

On Sat, 5 Mar 2016 16:22:52 +0100, garjobo
wrote:


Hello,

I am wanting a barrier ( approx 7ft high x 3feet in width x 7ft length)
- ideally for soundproofing my garden near my house. ( annoying
neighbours! )

Money as always an object, the best solution i can see ( aside from
move! ) is a Gabion Wall, now they look attractive and seem to of come
back in fashion as well.

My question is, are they stable enough - being 3ft across - approx x 7ft
high - aware i require good quality wire baskets, and over time will
likely give...but just wanting to know from anyone with more knowledge
than me in the trade..

.simple enough idea? I buy several 'cages' lay them down on cement
floor, tied together, through in some 'cheap quarry rocks' and bobs'
your uncle? Job done?

Or..is there a bit more too it than that? Breezeblock wall better way to
go?

Appreciate your time and any replies.

Long ago, some 40 years, I had a noisy neighbor to the back, he'd
leave his lawnmower running for hours and not even be there. I had a
4' chainlink fence so decided to erect a six foot high cedar stockade
fence. His lawn mower noise bounced off the fence and reflected right
back to his house where it was much louder than on my side... the lawn
mower noise stopped immediately. My view was much better too as his
yard was a junk yard. Before erecting the fence I painted the side
facing them all sorts of wierd colors and patterns, I painted my side
a lovely haze gray:
http://i66.tinypic.com/w1witw.jpg

Thanks Brooklyn for the reply, the pic looks very pretty but I fear a simple high fence will do nothing. I have a 7ft fence already there - bit of an eyesore but out of sight out of mind..kindof anyway! Next door are just..loud..no music or anything...anyway, anyone with any advice on gabion walls - construction / safety aspect -please feel free to enlighten me.

if it is for a garden why not be more creative with
the space and have it as a green wall for growing things?

while i don't find rock walls ugly i don't think i'd
much like to look at a barren fenced pile of rocks for
years at a time.


songbird

songbird wrote:

if it is for a garden why not be more creative with
the space and have it as a green wall for growing things?

while i don't find rock walls ugly i don't think i'd
much like to look at a barren fenced pile of rocks for
years at a time.

There are many plants that love a rock wall. However the OP wants to
supress sound and stone actually deflects and amplifies sound, a
wooden fence will absorb and supress sound.

On 3/5/2016 10:22 AM, garjobo wrote:
Hello,

I am wanting a barrier ( approx 7ft high x 3feet in width x 7ft length)
- ideally for soundproofing my garden near my house. ( annoying
neighbours! )

Money as always an object, the best solution i can see ( aside from
move! ) is a Gabion Wall, now they look attractive and seem to of come
back in fashion as well.

My question is, are they stable enough - being 3ft across - approx x 7ft
high - aware i require good quality wire baskets, and over time will
likely give...but just wanting to know from anyone with more knowledge
than me in the trade..

.simple enough idea? I buy several 'cages' lay them down on cement
floor, tied together, through in some 'cheap quarry rocks' and bobs'
your uncle? Job done?

Or..is there a bit more too it than that? Breezeblock wall better way to
go?

Appreciate your time and any replies.




Doesn't seem it would fit into a residential area very well and a length of
seven feet regardless of height isn't going to do much to reduce sound
anyway. Then there is the local council. Do you think that they would give
planning permission for such a structure? If you do it and anybody
complains do you have the money to remove it (or to financially induce the
council's more pliant and avaricious members to reconsider their ruling)?

Thanks for replying.

All a matter of taste in what it looks like, but as the last reply mentioned, yes it is more a case of supressing sound.

From the little ive read on suject, was under impression a gabion wall is better than brick and certainly a thin (tall) fence re sound. It may just echo it back into the neighours garden perhaps.

Any other ( cheap ) solution more than welcome. Really is a case of 'talking loudly' noise polution ( we have put up with worse in the past from other neighbours )..

..created thread on here really just to find out the practicality of making a stone wall.

Any other thoughts? I have a 7ft ( thin ) wooden fence up - out of sight of of mind type scenerio )..but does nothing to squash their noise - hence a stone wall.

...just to add....i would be keeping the think 7ft wooden fence up and simply adding in front of it cages of rocks for my 3ft width x 7ft high x 7ft in length wall.

In front of that i would put a medium height tree . The space is very narrow / by the side of our house hence im limited. But its in my mind to do it now...just would love any advice / other solutions / a safety aspect...i mean a 7ft rock wall...in cages...im not expert...but wont fall down?

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like. Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft fence i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it other than me )

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! - what planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw in some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage. Simples - no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather 9 bad reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would like the pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I aint making the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a few hundred quid because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy here.

On Sun, 6 Mar 2016 22:13:08 +0100, garjobo
wrote:


Thanks for replying.

All a matter of taste in what it looks like, but as the last reply
mentioned, yes it is more a case of supressing sound.

From the little ive read on suject, was under impression a gabion wall
is better than brick and certainly a thin (tall) fence re sound. It may
just echo it back into the neighours garden perhaps.

Any other ( cheap ) solution more than welcome. Really is a case of
'talking loudly' noise polution ( we have put up with worse in the past
from other neighbours )..

.created thread on here really just to find out the practicality of
making a stone wall.

Any other thoughts? I have a 7ft ( thin ) wooden fence up - out of
sight of of mind type scenerio )..but does nothing to squash their noise
- hence a stone wall.

A stone wall the size you mention won't help much if at all. You need
to offer a more detailed description, ie. distances, sound source, and
intensity. More often there is no solution for noisy neighbors in
close proximity short of moving or murder. Of the two I strongly
recommend moving. My daughter encountered a noisy neighbor problem
recently with new neighbors (loud music) after much retaliation back
and forth I suggested she move and finally she did to a house I
located nearby on 11 acres. Living in close proximity to neighbors on
small suburban properties will eventually result in feuding over noise
or some issue(s). Even on large acreage one still needs to tolerate
the sounds of lawn mowing, chain sawing, and party music, but it's
typically occasional. Noise is not so bad as noxious odors from live
stock or dying septic systems. So long as one lives near people there
will be noises. Even on ones own isle way out at sea one will still
need to tolerate the constant sqwarking of sea birds. Learn to live
with noises, for eventually in the ground you will have quiet for
eternity. To be honest I strongly suggest ear plugs. Even on 11
acres my daughter still complains about noise from nedighbors although
they are many hundreds of feet apart. I live on 16 acres but I still
can hear lawn mowing and such, but I'm not bothered as I mow too. I
have central air conditioning so I never open windows, my house stays
cleaner and is quiet. Rather than ear plugs I suggest adding
insulation, I did that to save on energy bills and as an unintended
plus my house is very quiet.

wrote:

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like.
Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft fence
i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it other than me
)

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a
backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! - what
planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw in
some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage. Simples -
no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather 9 bad
reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would like the
pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I aint making
the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a few hundred quid
because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy here.

Baskets of rocks will do absolutely nothing to deaden sound, if
anything rocks will amplify sound. Something soft/porous, like wood
chips/compost will deaden sound, to what degree, depends on the nature
of the sound, but probably not by much. You still haven't
described/defined the noise; machinery, loud talking, barking dogs,
amplified music, what... you must be embarrassed to say... probably
sexual emanations! LOL-LOL

Brooklyn1 wrote:
wrote:

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like.
Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft
fence i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it
other than me )

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a
backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! -
what planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw in
some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage.
Simples - no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather 9
bad reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would
like the pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I
aint making the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a few
hundred quid because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy here.

Baskets of rocks will do absolutely nothing to deaden sound, if
anything rocks will amplify sound. Something soft/porous, like wood
chips/compost will deaden sound, to what degree, depends on the nature
of the sound, but probably not by much. You still haven't
described/defined the noise; machinery, loud talking, barking dogs,
amplified music, what... you must be embarrassed to say... probably
sexual emanations! LOL-LOL

He's said numerous times the neighbors talk too loud ... how could you have
missed that ?

--
Snag

Terry Coombs wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
wrote:

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like.
Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft
fence i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it
other than me )

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a
backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! -
what planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw in
some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage.
Simples - no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather 9
bad reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would
like the pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I
aint making the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a few
hundred quid because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy here.

Baskets of rocks will do absolutely nothing to deaden sound, if
anything rocks will amplify sound. Something soft/porous, like wood
chips/compost will deaden sound, to what degree, depends on the nature
of the sound, but probably not by much. You still haven't
described/defined the noise; machinery, loud talking, barking dogs,
amplified music, what... you must be embarrassed to say... probably
sexual emanations! LOL-LOL

He's said numerous times the neighbors talk too loud ... how could you have
missed that ?

Show me. He may have at gardenbanter but not here.

Brooklyn1 wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
wrote:

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like.
Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft
fence i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it
other than me )

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a
backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! -
what planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw
in some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage.
Simples - no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather
9 bad reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would
like the pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I
aint making the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a
few hundred quid because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy
here.

Baskets of rocks will do absolutely nothing to deaden sound, if
anything rocks will amplify sound. Something soft/porous, like wood
chips/compost will deaden sound, to what degree, depends on the
nature of the sound, but probably not by much. You still haven't
described/defined the noise; machinery, loud talking, barking dogs,
amplified music, what... you must be embarrassed to say... probably
sexual emanations! LOL-LOL

He's said numerous times the neighbors talk too loud ... how could
you have missed that ?

Show me. He may have at gardenbanter but not here.

This is in one of his responses to you :

"Thanks for replying.

All a matter of taste in what it looks like, but as the last reply
mentioned, yes it is more a case of supressing sound.

From the little ive read on suject, was under impression a gabion wall
is better than brick and certainly a thin (tall) fence re sound. It may
just echo it back into the neighours garden perhaps.

Any other ( cheap ) solution more than welcome. Really is a case of
'talking loudly' noise polution ( we have put up with worse in the past
from other neighbours ).."



--
Snag

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 08:26:03 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote:

Brooklyn1 wrote:
Terry Coombs wrote:
Brooklyn1 wrote:
wrote:

John, its my back garden - up to 6.5ft i can do anything i like.
Although it would be nearer 7ft but then hidden by the current 7ft
fence i have up anyway ( been there years - no-one would see it
other than me )

Logistically, how high can you go to reduce noise - seriously! in a
backgarden!!

As for planning , construction etc..that was my intial question! -
what planning is needed?...

I buy the metal baskets ( £20 a time ), lay them on ground, throw
in some quarry bricks, and then repeat with another basket/cage.
Simples - no?

Why is nothing simple.

I know the internet is full of negativity - you will always gather
9 bad reports for 1 decent one - nature of the beast! - just would
like the pros and cons for what I'm considering. End of the day - I
aint making the noise!, but I will be the muppet who forks out a
few hundred quid because of selfish neighbours. Im not the bad guy
here.

Baskets of rocks will do absolutely nothing to deaden sound, if
anything rocks will amplify sound. Something soft/porous, like wood
chips/compost will deaden sound, to what degree, depends on the
nature of the sound, but probably not by much. You still haven't
described/defined the noise; machinery, loud talking, barking dogs,
amplified music, what... you must be embarrassed to say... probably
sexual emanations! LOL-LOL

He's said numerous times the neighbors talk too loud ... how could
you have missed that ?

Show me. He may have at gardenbanter but not here.

This is in one of his responses to you :

"Thanks for replying.

All a matter of taste in what it looks like, but as the last reply
mentioned, yes it is more a case of supressing sound.

From the little ive read on suject, was under impression a gabion wall
is better than brick and certainly a thin (tall) fence re sound. It may
just echo it back into the neighours garden perhaps.

Any other ( cheap ) solution more than welcome. Really is a case of
'talking loudly' noise polution ( we have put up with worse in the past
from other neighbours ).."

That's not a post, that's copied and pasted, and that's not numerous
times. I asked to describe the noise several times and he's not once
replied directly. In any event there's no solution for people talking
loudly and "loudly" indicates no degree... sounds to me the OP is
living in the wrong place, he needs to move to where he's a much
greater distance from neighbors, or wear shooter's ear protection
muffs 24/7. This hasn't a whit to do with gardening so I'm out of
here.