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I have 2 six foot trees in buckets to put in the ground - a barlett pear and a satsuma plum. If no other citrus trees nearby, will they bear fruit? It seems like there should be a straight forward answer but getting different advice from different nurseries and websites... both will bear fruit, may bear fruit, must have 2nd plum and pear, etc....?

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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 06:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Ihop Ingles
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I have 2 six foot trees in buckets to put in the ground - a barlett pear and a satsuma plum. If no other citrus trees nearby, will they bear fruit? It seems like there should be a straight forward answer but getting different advice from different nurseries and websites... both will bear fruit, may bear fruit, must have 2nd plum and pear, etc....?



Your plums will need a pollinator.

https://homeguides.sfgate.com/satsum...ion-67799.html


The pear is partially self-pollinating, but will benefit from another
tree nearby, meaning you'll get some fruit with no other tree, but a
much larger yield with a cross pollinator nearby.

https://www.orangepippintrees.eu/pol...er.aspx?v=2024

Next time you seek similar information, you should be able to find it
easily by a simple Google search of "(PUT YOUR VARIETY HERE)
pollinators."


And neither of the trees you mention is citrus.
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I too saw those same google results. Can someone offer their own personal experience?

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On 8/7/2019 6:05 AM, Ihop Ingles wrote:
I have 2 six foot trees in buckets to put in the ground - a barlett
pear and a satsuma plum. If no other citrus trees nearby, will they
bear fruit? It seems like there should be a straight forward answer
but getting different advice from different nurseries and websites...
both will bear fruit, may bear fruit, must have 2nd plum and pear,
etc....?


Neither plums nor pears are related to citrus. Thus, the nearby
presence of citrus trees is no relevant.

If you are in the U.S., your question should be addressed to your
county's agricultural agent or the agricultura extension of your state
university.

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On 07/08/2019 14:05, Ihop Ingles wrote:
I have 2 six foot trees in buckets to put in the ground - a barlett pear and a satsuma plum. If no other citrus trees nearby, will they bear fruit? It seems like there should be a straight forward answer but getting different advice from different nurseries and websites... both will bear fruit, may bear fruit, must have 2nd plum and pear, etc....?


In the UK we call the pear a williams.
Your Bartlett pear tree is in flowering group 3. It is partially
self-fertile, but a nearby pollination partner of a different variety is
beneficial.
I had one mature one with no pears near and we got a good crop every
yer plenty for 3 of us.
Your plumb may be self fertile if it's one of these If you only have
space for one plum tree and you want a self-fertile Japanese cultivar,
you have three choices: “Methley," a sweet, reddish-purple plum;
“Shiro,” a large, sweet, bright-yellow plum; and “Toka,” a red plum
hybrid of Japanese and American plums.
Otherwise “Satsuma” plums may be pollinated by "Methey," "Shiro" and
"Toka." Other useful Japanese plum pollinators are “Beauty,” a large
plum with amber-tinged red flesh and bright red skin; "Burbank," a
purplish red plum; and “Santa Rosa,” a large plum with purple flesh and
reddish-purple skin.
Citrus are Oranges and lemons etc.


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On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 07:38:41 -0700 (PDT), Ihop Ingles
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I too saw those same google results. Can someone offer their own personal experience?



Sorry - I have no personal experience
with planting trees - in your yard ..
.. wherever in this wide world that is ..
:-)
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Many thanks to David and everyone! Its back to the nursery for two different varieties for cross pollination. i would rather have extra than a poor crop down the road. Disappointed in the nursery dude who said pear would pollenate plum. Location is charlotte nc usa.
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On 08/08/2019 05:52, Ihop Ingles wrote:
Many thanks to David and everyone! Its back to the nursery for two different varieties for cross pollination. i would rather have extra than a poor crop down the road. Disappointed in the nursery dude who said pear would pollenate plum. Location is charlotte nc usa.

As much chance of a pear pollinating a pear as your dog breeding with
your cat.
That Nursery sounds like it needs someone who knows what they are
talking about
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:52 +0100, David Hill
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On 08/08/2019 05:52, Ihop Ingles wrote:
Many thanks to David and everyone! Its back to the nursery for two different varieties for cross pollination. i would

rather have extra than a poor crop down the road. Disappointed in the
nursery dude who said pear would pollenate plum. Location is charlotte
nc usa.

Aside from pollenation NC is in the wrong growing zone for pear and
plum... both require a lenghthy hard freeze for fruit production.

As much chance of a pear pollinating a pear as your dog breeding with
your cat.
That Nursery sounds like it needs someone who knows what they are
talking about



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On 8/8/2019 7:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:52 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 08/08/2019 05:52, Ihop Ingles wrote:
Many thanks to David and everyone! Its back to the nursery for two different varieties for cross pollination. i would

rather have extra than a poor crop down the road. Disappointed in the
nursery dude who said pear would pollenate plum. Location is charlotte
nc usa.

Aside from pollenation NC is in the wrong growing zone for pear and
plum... both require a lenghthy hard freeze for fruit production.

As much chance of a pear pollinating a pear as your dog breeding with
your cat.
That Nursery sounds like it needs someone who knows what they are
talking about


Sunset's "Western Garden Book" (which is sitting in front of me as I
compose this reply) lists several pear and plum varieties for mild
winter climates. While the book is intended for gardening west of the
Rocky Mountains, the information on winter chill applies to the plants
and can be relevant to eastern climates. Besides indicating suitability
for various climates, the book also indicates which plum and pear
varieties require cross-pollination and which other varieties are
suitable pollinators.

Sunset has published a garden book (which I do not have) that is
generalized to the entire U.S. Perhaps that should be consulted to find
the pear and plum varieties suitable for North Carolina.

NOTE WELL: U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) zones merely reflect
how cold winters are. Sunset uses a different zone concept that
includes how long winter cold lasts, hot hot summers are and how long
the heat lasts, persistent humidity, when rain or snow fall, and other
factors. Thus, instead of 10 USDA zones, Sunset has 26 zones just for
the west.

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On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 08:11:49 -0700, "David E. Ross"
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On 8/8/2019 7:47 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 10:32:52 +0100, David Hill
wrote:

On 08/08/2019 05:52, Ihop Ingles wrote:
Many thanks to David and everyone! Its back to the nursery for two different varieties for cross pollination. i would

rather have extra than a poor crop down the road. Disappointed in the
nursery dude who said pear would pollenate plum. Location is charlotte
nc usa.

Aside from pollenation NC is in the wrong growing zone for pear and
plum... both require a lenghthy hard freeze for fruit production.

As much chance of a pear pollinating a pear as your dog breeding with
your cat.
That Nursery sounds like it needs someone who knows what they are
talking about


Sunset's "Western Garden Book" (which is sitting in front of me as I
compose this reply) lists several pear and plum varieties for mild
winter climates. While the book is intended for gardening west of the
Rocky Mountains, the information on winter chill applies to the plants
and can be relevant to eastern climates. Besides indicating suitability
for various climates, the book also indicates which plum and pear
varieties require cross-pollination and which other varieties are
suitable pollinators.

Sunset has published a garden book (which I do not have) that is
generalized to the entire U.S. Perhaps that should be consulted to find
the pear and plum varieties suitable for North Carolina.

NOTE WELL: U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) zones merely reflect
how cold winters are. Sunset uses a different zone concept that
includes how long winter cold lasts, hot hot summers are and how long
the heat lasts, persistent humidity, when rain or snow fall, and other
factors. Thus, instead of 10 USDA zones, Sunset has 26 zones just for
the west.


Of course there are some exceptions but I'd not count on those. In NC
I suggest one plant peach trees.
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Amazing how much bad info and guesses are being posted here. Plums, pears, apples... all grow with or without frost in most regions. Just give advice that you know is correct. Or say " i think", or "i read something someone else said..."


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On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 01:24:20 -0700 (PDT),
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Amazing how much bad info and guesses are being posted here. Plums, pears, apples... all grow with or without frost in most regions. Just give advice that you know is correct. Or say " i think", or "i read something someone else said..."


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