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Fleemo 26-01-2003 02:28 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?

B & J 26-01-2003 06:51 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
"Fleemo" wrote in message
om...
I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?


I don't know about Zone 9, but in Zone 6 my hands down winner for a great
cherry tomato is Jolly, the 2001 AAS winner. I tried it this past summer,
and it did a wonderful job of producing large quantities of a great tasting
cherry tomato. It was heat tolerant, crack resistant, and had a great tomato
taste.

John



[email protected] 26-01-2003 04:50 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:51:20 -0600, "B & J"
wrote:

"Fleemo" wrote in message
. com...
I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?


I don't know about Zone 9, but in Zone 6 my hands down winner for a great
cherry tomato is Jolly, the 2001 AAS winner. I tried it this past summer,
and it did a wonderful job of producing large quantities of a great tasting
cherry tomato. It was heat tolerant, crack resistant, and had a great tomato
taste.

John

As a slight variation on the original topic, I was looking through the
heirloom tomatoes on seedsavers,com, and was amazed at the huge
variety. Is there a good resource that will tell me about the
different kinds, or do I just close my eyes and blindly choose some
and see if I like them?

Rebecca

Fleemo 27-01-2003 07:50 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
wrote in message ...
On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:51:20 -0600, "B & J"
wrote:

"Fleemo" wrote in message
. com...
I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?


I don't know about Zone 9, but in Zone 6 my hands down winner for a great
cherry tomato is Jolly, the 2001 AAS winner. I tried it this past summer,
and it did a wonderful job of producing large quantities of a great tasting
cherry tomato. It was heat tolerant, crack resistant, and had a great tomato
taste.

John

As a slight variation on the original topic, I was looking through the
heirloom tomatoes on seedsavers,com, and was amazed at the huge
variety. Is there a good resource that will tell me about the
different kinds, or do I just close my eyes and blindly choose some
and see if I like them?

Rebecca


Rebecca, Seed Saver's Exchange was where I started my tomato oddesey
this season, and I too was bewildered by the multitudes of choices.

I saw an interview with an expert heirloom tomato grower who listed
his favorites, which include Pinky Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, Aunt
Jenny's Purple, German Red Stawberry, the 1884 Tomato, Red Mortgage
Lifter VFN, and Eva's Purple Ball. Unfortunately, the only one of
these listed on the Seed Savers Exchange website is Cherokee Purple,
which is why I thought to ask the kind folks here in rec.gardens to
offer up their favorite tomato varieties.

-Fleemo

Bill R 27-01-2003 11:54 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Fleemo wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:51:20 -0600, "B & J"
wrote:


"Fleemo" wrote in message
e.com...

I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?

I don't know about Zone 9, but in Zone 6 my hands down winner for a great
cherry tomato is Jolly, the 2001 AAS winner. I tried it this past summer,
and it did a wonderful job of producing large quantities of a great tasting
cherry tomato. It was heat tolerant, crack resistant, and had a great tomato
taste.

John


As a slight variation on the original topic, I was looking through the
heirloom tomatoes on seedsavers,com, and was amazed at the huge
variety. Is there a good resource that will tell me about the
different kinds, or do I just close my eyes and blindly choose some
and see if I like them?

Rebecca



Rebecca, Seed Saver's Exchange was where I started my tomato oddesey
this season, and I too was bewildered by the multitudes of choices.

I saw an interview with an expert heirloom tomato grower who listed
his favorites, which include Pinky Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, Aunt
Jenny's Purple, German Red Stawberry, the 1884 Tomato, Red Mortgage
Lifter VFN, and Eva's Purple Ball. Unfortunately, the only one of
these listed on the Seed Savers Exchange website is Cherokee Purple,
which is why I thought to ask the kind folks here in rec.gardens to
offer up their favorite tomato varieties.

-Fleemo


A good source for just about any type of tomatoes seeds is
Totally Tomatoes,
http://www.totallytomato.com

They carry a lot of the heirloom tomato seeds that aren't readily
available anywhere else.

A few tomatoes that I am going to try this year are Early Goliath
(58 days) 8 oz. fruits, and for salads Jelly Bean Hybrid Cherry
Tomatoes (72 days), Orange Strawberry (80 days), and Orange
Banana (85 days).
--
Bill R.

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mmarteen 28-01-2003 03:35 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
I am trying Giant Belgium Pink 88 days, Health Kick, 75 days, San Remo 75
days, Winter Red 70 days, and Sugar Snack 65 days. (Zone 4). All are
Burpees except for San Remo which I am getting from Shepherd's
Seeds/Whiteflower Farm.

mm


"Bill R" wrote in message
...
Fleemo wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:51:20 -0600, "B & J"
wrote:


"Fleemo" wrote in message
e.com...

I just preused years of tomato recommendations here in rec.gardens,
and thought I'd go ahead and re-ask the perennial question "What's
your favorite tomato?" Favorites from years past seem to include
Pineapple, Pink Girl, Lemon Boy, Big Girl, and Park's Whopper. What's
your current favorite? And please mention where you got your seed.

By the way, I'm in Zone 9. Do specific varieties do better in some
zones than others? If so, what are good selections for Zone 9?

I don't know about Zone 9, but in Zone 6 my hands down winner for a

great
cherry tomato is Jolly, the 2001 AAS winner. I tried it this past

summer,
and it did a wonderful job of producing large quantities of a great

tasting
cherry tomato. It was heat tolerant, crack resistant, and had a great

tomato
taste.

John


As a slight variation on the original topic, I was looking through the
heirloom tomatoes on seedsavers,com, and was amazed at the huge
variety. Is there a good resource that will tell me about the
different kinds, or do I just close my eyes and blindly choose some
and see if I like them?

Rebecca



Rebecca, Seed Saver's Exchange was where I started my tomato oddesey
this season, and I too was bewildered by the multitudes of choices.

I saw an interview with an expert heirloom tomato grower who listed
his favorites, which include Pinky Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, Aunt
Jenny's Purple, German Red Stawberry, the 1884 Tomato, Red Mortgage
Lifter VFN, and Eva's Purple Ball. Unfortunately, the only one of
these listed on the Seed Savers Exchange website is Cherokee Purple,
which is why I thought to ask the kind folks here in rec.gardens to
offer up their favorite tomato varieties.

-Fleemo


A good source for just about any type of tomatoes seeds is
Totally Tomatoes,
http://www.totallytomato.com

They carry a lot of the heirloom tomato seeds that aren't readily
available anywhere else.

A few tomatoes that I am going to try this year are Early Goliath
(58 days) 8 oz. fruits, and for salads Jelly Bean Hybrid Cherry
Tomatoes (72 days), Orange Strawberry (80 days), and Orange
Banana (85 days).
--
Bill R.

Remove No-Junk-Mail- in e-mail address to reply by e-mail




Dwight Sipler 28-01-2003 04:14 PM

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New England, zone 5.5:

I have had good luck for the past few years with Sun Gold, an orange
cherry tomato. It has high sugar and good flavor. It is prone to
cracking. I saw a description of Sun Sugar which said that it's
indistinguishable from Sun Gold except that it is less susceptible to
cracking, so I'm trying both this year so I can compare them.

For main season tomatoes I grow (among others) Mountain Fresh and
Estiva, both good looking tomatoes with good flavor. Best flavor goes to
Brandywine and Pruden's Purple (similar types), but they also win the
prize for the ugliest fruit. Are you going to eat them or look at them?

Correction: I read somewhere that a Tomato is not a fruit, but a
vegetable, by act of Congress. (something to do with tariffs on
imports).

Fleemo 28-01-2003 07:39 PM

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It's amazing to me just how many different varieties of tomatoes there
are to choose from. How is one to decide? :) I only wish I had an
entire acre to dedicate to tomato trials.

Thanks for your input here folks.

-Fleemo

Dwight Sipler 28-01-2003 07:48 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Fleemo wrote:

It's amazing to me just how many different varieties of tomatoes there
are to choose from. How is one to decide?...



I suspect that there are so many varieties that if you grew them all you
wouldn't be able to eat one of each over the period of a year.

On the other hand, there are a lot of them that are really really
similar, so maybe you wouldn't have to.

Phisherman 29-01-2003 12:35 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
I prefer to pick an early, a late, and an unusual tomato. Some years
they give exceptional yields, other years the summers get too hot and
the tomatoes barely fruit. Our climate (zone 7) in east TN can have
mid 90 temperatures for two months with warm nights (even though we
are in the mountains) and tomatoes don't like that. If anyone knows
which tomato variety likes this type of climate, please advise.
Ohio's climate is perfect for tomato.

BT 29-01-2003 01:39 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
We had an unusually hot summer here in zone 5 last year, but our Miracle Sweet
tomatoes didn't seem to even notice. I just had to give them a little extra
water, but they thrived like always. Great taste, good disease tolerance, and
vigorous grower. A smaller sized main season tomato.

BT


"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
I prefer to pick an early, a late, and an unusual tomato. Some years
they give exceptional yields, other years the summers get too hot and
the tomatoes barely fruit. Our climate (zone 7) in east TN can have
mid 90 temperatures for two months with warm nights (even though we
are in the mountains) and tomatoes don't like that. If anyone knows
which tomato variety likes this type of climate, please advise.
Ohio's climate is perfect for tomato.




Pat Brothers 29-01-2003 02:04 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Take a look at Chuck Wyatt's site. Hundreds of tomatoes described. He
has a list of 30 or so tomato varieties that do well in hot climates. I
bought seeds from him for several years. Good quality seed. He has
passed on, but his neighbor is still selling his seeds, I think.

Phisherman wrote:

I prefer to pick an early, a late, and an unusual tomato. Some years
they give exceptional yields, other years the summers get too hot and
the tomatoes barely fruit. Our climate (zone 7) in east TN can have
mid 90 temperatures for two months with warm nights (even though we
are in the mountains) and tomatoes don't like that. If anyone knows
which tomato variety likes this type of climate, please advise.
Ohio's climate is perfect for tomato.


Pat Brothers
The Powell House
Wake Forest, NC
USDA Zone 7b


Fleemo 30-01-2003 10:41 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Take a look at Chuck Wyatt's site.

Would love to. What's the URL?

Dwight Sipler 30-01-2003 12:56 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Fleemo wrote:

Take a look at Chuck Wyatt's site.


Would love to. What's the URL?




I found it through Google at http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net/

Fleemo 30-01-2003 01:20 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
I saw an interview with an expert heirloom tomato grower who listed
his favorites, which include Pinky Brandywine, Cherokee Purple, Aunt
Jenny's Purple, German Red Stawberry, the 1884 Tomato, Red Mortgage
Lifter VFN, and Eva's Purple Ball.


Dwight just forwarded me a URL for a website selling nearly ALL of the
recommended varieties listed above!

http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net

Thanks Dwight!

Dwight Sipler 30-01-2003 04:43 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Fleemo wrote:

...Dwight just forwarded me a URL for a website selling nearly ALL of the
recommended varieties listed above!

http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net



To give credit where it's due, Pat Brothers
made the original suggestion but didn't include the URL. I just found it
on Google and passed it along. Hadn't heard of the site previously, but
it does look interesting.

Pat Brothers 31-01-2003 02:02 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Sorry. Computer illiterate still. I found it googling and do not know
how to add the url to posts. I will figure it out sometime. It is on my
list of things to learn. Sorta low on the list. If you post an answer
telling me how to do it I will forget. Sorry again. Unless it is really
really easy and simpleminded. Like me.

Dwight Sipler wrote:

Fleemo wrote:

...Dwight just forwarded me a URL for a website selling nearly ALL of the
recommended varieties listed above!

http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net



To give credit where it's due, Pat Brothers
made the original suggestion but didn't include the URL. I just found it
on Google and passed it along. Hadn't heard of the site previously, but
it does look interesting.


Pat Brothers
The Powell House
Wake Forest, NC
USDA Zone 7b


Fleemo 31-01-2003 03:13 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
I wound up placing my order today with another site that I found
called Tomato Growers Supply Company (www.tomatogrowers.com). Their
prices were slightly higher than heirloomtomatoes.net, but they
offered both heirloom and hybrid varieties. I wanted to try some of
the aforementioned heirlooms (recommended on an episode of Gardening
By The Yard), as well as some of the hybrids recommended over the
years here in rec.gardens.

Jo 31-01-2003 03:36 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
"Dwight Sipler" wrote ...
New England, zone 5.5:

Correction: I read somewhere that a Tomato is not a fruit, but a

vegetable,
by act of Congress. (something to do with tariffs on imports).


That depends if you're a botanist or a bureaucrat. ;-)

From the Brooklyn Botanic Garden site:
"If the controversy over the tomato being toxic or benign weren't enough, an
additional debate has centered over whether the tomato is a vegetable or a
fruit. In 1887, the question went all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court in
Nix v. Hedden. The real issue was money and protection for American growers:
if tomatoes were vegetables, they could be taxed when imported under the
Tariff Act of 1883. The Court's botanical knowledge was sound-tomatoes are
specialized reproductive structures that contain seeds, in other words,
fruits-but it chose utility over botanical technicalities and ruled on the
side of American farmers:

Botanically speaking tomatoes are the fruit of a vine, just as are
cucumbers, squashes, beans and peas. But in the common language of the
people...all these are vegetables, which are grown in kitchen gardens, and
....are usually served at dinner in, with or after the soup, fish or
meats...and not, like fruits generally, as dessert.
John Nix, the New York tomato importer, had to pay. The Court's pragmatism
was echoed in 1981, when the director of USDA's Division of Food and
Nutrition Service officially declared that ketchup was a vegetable as part
of the Reagan Administration's effort to justify cuts in the school-lunch
program."



Dwight Sipler 31-01-2003 01:32 PM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
Pat Brothers wrote:

.... I ... do not know
how to add the url to posts. I will figure it out sometime. It is on my
list of things to learn. Sorta low on the list. If you post an answer
telling me how to do it I will forget. Sorry again. Unless it is really
really easy....



*I* think it's easy, but then I've been working on computers for 50
years now. I even got my wife to learn how to do it. So I'll tell you
how and you can decide for yourself whether to forget it or not. (PS:
this works in Windows: I don't use Macs.)

(1) bring up website with your browser.

(2) at the top of the browser there is a window showing the URL. Click
on the window and the URL should be highlighted. If it doesn't become
highlighted, you can double click on it to highlight it.

(3) ctrl-C will copy whatever you have highlighted (the URL) into the
clipboard. Edit|Copy will do the same thing.

(4) whatever you put in the clipboard will stay there until you put
something else in the clipboard or reboot, so you can, at your leisure,
write a message. When you get to the part where you want to insert the
URL, ctrl-V (or Edit|Paste) will insert whatever is in the clipboard.
That's it.

Note that this cut-and-paste works with all sorts of other things such
as word processors and even some image editing programs. Try it. You
can't physically break anything by trying (just remember that if you
really screw something up, you can close it without saving your changes.
Also remember to back things up frequently, particularly the important
stuff.)

To summarize:

Ctrl-C copy (leaves selected text in place)
Ctrl-X cut (removes selected text)
Ctrl-V paste (inserts clipboard contents)



Since the URL is just a bunch of characters, you can always just type it
in. However, the cut-and-paste avoids typographical errors, particularly
on long involved URLs. It also includes the "http://" header, which
makes the URL into a link which you can just click on to bring up the
website.

Jason Quick 02-02-2003 09:28 AM

Tomato Recommendations for 2003 :)
 
"Bill R" wrote

A good source for just about any type of tomatoes seeds is
Totally Tomatoes, http://www.totallytomato.com


Well, not really. They tend to, uh, make stuff up WRT tomato varieties and
such.

Much better off to try Tomato Growers' Supply at:
http://www.tomatogrowers.com

They have at least as many varieties *and* are concerned with the genetic
integrity of the various heirlooms.

A few other sources:

Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds:
http://rareseeds.com
Specializes in heirlooms, particularly tomatoes and melons.

Marianna's Heirloom Seeds:
http://www.mariseeds.com
A magnificent selection of tomato and pepper seeds. Amazing variety.

Tanager Song Farm:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/collectibles4u/
Another immense source of tomatoes, complete with lots of great photos.

Finally, the late Chuck Wyatt's site at:
http://www.heirloomtomatoes.net
Again, great selection, reasonable prices.

A resource I've found invaluable is http://www.gardenweb.com - they have a
forum there specifically for tomatoheads. Carolyn Male, author of _100
Heirloom Tomatoes for the American Garden_, posts there regularly, as does
Craig LeHoullier, who discovered and named Cherokee Purple among others.

Jason




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