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Jonathan Sachs 20-07-2003 02:34 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
I am moving from the San Francisco area to Chicago next month, and I
have a few potted plants that I would like to take with me. I am not
going to drive, so carrying them is not an option.

Does anybody know about a service that will transport small numbers of
plants at a reasonable price?

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

animaux 20-07-2003 04:32 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Unless these are very rare plants and/or very large and you've had them a very
long time, it is far less expensive to buy new ones when you arrive in Chicago.
Prepare yourself. It's freezing cold there!

If you tell what kind of plants and what type of pots I can help instruct you
since I did a lot of mail order from our garden center. It can and is done
regularly.

So, are these rare specimens?

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:11:50 GMT, Jonathan Sachs wrote:

I am moving from the San Francisco area to Chicago next month, and I
have a few potted plants that I would like to take with me. I am not
going to drive, so carrying them is not an option.

Does anybody know about a service that will transport small numbers of
plants at a reasonable price?

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.



Frogleg 20-07-2003 09:53 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:11:50 GMT, Jonathan Sachs
wrote:

I am moving from the San Francisco area to Chicago next month, and I
have a few potted plants that I would like to take with me. I am not
going to drive, so carrying them is not an option.

Does anybody know about a service that will transport small numbers of
plants at a reasonable price?


I sent some of my favorites with the furniture in the moving van
(commercial) from west to east coast. I was not confident of survival,
but several, well-watered and surrounded (not on top) with cardboard
'cages' made it.

You can FedEx them, but best check on regs and packing advice.

Jonathan Sachs 24-07-2003 04:32 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
animaux wrote:

Unless these are very rare plants and/or very large and you've had them a very
long time, it is far less expensive to buy new ones when you arrive in Chicago.


Undoubtedly true but not relevant. All of them are either plants with
sentimental meaning to me, or plants that cannot be replaced because
they are not commercially grown.

Prepare yourself. It's freezing cold there!


I know. I grew up there. All of my gardening experience is from
California, though, so I'm not entirely sure what will be able to make
it outside. Plum trees? My research has yielded a definite "maybe"

If you tell what kind of plants and what type of pots I can help instruct you
since I did a lot of mail order from our garden center. It can and is done
regularly.


I'm not sure, because I have done the triage yet. Definitely a
Christmas cactus in a pot about 8" across. Probably one or two other
cacti and/or succulents. And the plum trees.

So, are these rare specimens?


The plum tree is rare, actually, unique. It's a cutting from a tree in
my yard which is probably a hybrid between a wild plum a and Santa
Rosa plum or something similar. The plums are a very deep purple
color, a little larger than grapes, moderately sweet, and have the
most intense plum flavor I've ever encountered. I strongly want to
preserve this.

Actually, if someone is interested in growing one of these trees and
caring for it, I have four rooted cuttings, and will be giving away
two or three of them. The only condition is that I'd want to keep in
touch, and be able to get a cutting from the cutting, if the one I
keep should not survive.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

animaux 24-07-2003 02:32 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 03:26:28 GMT, Jonathan Sachs wrote:

animaux wrote:

Unless these are very rare plants and/or very large and you've had them a very
long time, it is far less expensive to buy new ones when you arrive in Chicago.


Undoubtedly true but not relevant. All of them are either plants with
sentimental meaning to me, or plants that cannot be replaced because
they are not commercially grown.


Which is WHY I SAID VERY RARE! Geesh, I am answering less and less of these
questions, which I am then told the answer is not relevant.

Prepare yourself. It's freezing cold there!


I know. I grew up there. All of my gardening experience is from
California, though, so I'm not entirely sure what will be able to make
it outside. Plum trees? My research has yielded a definite "maybe"


All plants and trees come with a "definite maybe." Plants don't read books.

If you tell what kind of plants and what type of pots I can help instruct you
since I did a lot of mail order from our garden center. It can and is done
regularly.


I'm not sure, because I have done the triage yet. Definitely a
Christmas cactus in a pot about 8" across. Probably one or two other
cacti and/or succulents. And the plum trees.


These are the rare and not produced commercially plants, which are sentimental,
but you don't know what they are? Plum tree? You want to move a plum tree?

So, are these rare specimens?


The plum tree is rare, actually, unique. It's a cutting from a tree in
my yard which is probably a hybrid between a wild plum a and Santa
Rosa plum or something similar. The plums are a very deep purple
color, a little larger than grapes, moderately sweet, and have the
most intense plum flavor I've ever encountered. I strongly want to
preserve this.


I don't think that it will be a successful transition.


Actually, if someone is interested in growing one of these trees and
caring for it, I have four rooted cuttings, and will be giving away
two or three of them. The only condition is that I'd want to keep in
touch, and be able to get a cutting from the cutting, if the one I
keep should not survive.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.


Good luck. I hope the plums work out for you.

Jonathan Sachs 25-07-2003 12:32 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Animaux appears to have taken offense at my answers to his questions,
although it's not clear to me why. I hope this won't deter others from
posting if they have suggestions or facts to contribute. This thread
is intended to be an investigation, not an argument.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

Hope Munro Smith 25-07-2003 09:02 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Jonathan Sachs wrote in
:

Animaux appears to have taken offense at my answers to his questions,
although it's not clear to me why. I hope this won't deter others from
posting if they have suggestions or facts to contribute. This thread
is intended to be an investigation, not an argument.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.


I'm not sure if you have been following the thread "moving to California"
but I have an analogous problem. I have been getting so much conflicting
information about whether my plants will be allowed into CA I am ready to
either give them all away or risk smuggling them inside boxes inside of the
U-Haul van!

Hope Munro Smith 25-07-2003 09:02 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Frogleg wrote in
:

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:11:50 GMT, Jonathan Sachs
wrote:

I am moving from the San Francisco area to Chicago next month, and I
have a few potted plants that I would like to take with me. I am not
going to drive, so carrying them is not an option.

Does anybody know about a service that will transport small numbers of
plants at a reasonable price?


I sent some of my favorites with the furniture in the moving van
(commercial) from west to east coast. I was not confident of survival,
but several, well-watered and surrounded (not on top) with cardboard
'cages' made it.

You can FedEx them, but best check on regs and packing advice.


Which plants made it under these conditions, do you remember?

Hope Munro Smith 25-07-2003 09:02 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Jonathan Sachs wrote in
:

Actually, if someone is interested in growing one of these trees and
caring for it, I have four rooted cuttings, and will be giving away
two or three of them. The only condition is that I'd want to keep in
touch, and be able to get a cutting from the cutting, if the one I
keep should not survive.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.


Do you have any cuttings left?

dsc 25-07-2003 10:02 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Please keep in mind that exotic pests are wreaking havoc in
California. The uncaring nursery moguls who have introduced sudden oak
death to our state is only the latest disaster. There is a very good
reason to regulate plant entry into California to protect its
agriculture and environment, both of which are incredibly diverse
relative to anywhere else in the world.

Sneaking plants into California is a terrorist act.



On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:43:51 +0000 (UTC), Hope Munro Smith
wrote:

Jonathan Sachs wrote in
:

Animaux appears to have taken offense at my answers to his questions,
although it's not clear to me why. I hope this won't deter others from
posting if they have suggestions or facts to contribute. This thread
is intended to be an investigation, not an argument.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.


I'm not sure if you have been following the thread "moving to California"
but I have an analogous problem. I have been getting so much conflicting
information about whether my plants will be allowed into CA I am ready to
either give them all away or risk smuggling them inside boxes inside of the
U-Haul van!



Hope Munro Smith 25-07-2003 10:22 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
dsc darlin' sweet cheeks @ who posts an email address anymore?.com
wrote in :

Please keep in mind that exotic pests are wreaking havoc in
California. The uncaring nursery moguls who have introduced sudden oak
death to our state is only the latest disaster. There is a very good
reason to regulate plant entry into California to protect its
agriculture and environment, both of which are incredibly diverse
relative to anywhere else in the world.

Sneaking plants into California is a terrorist act.


Oh heavens, I was only joking! I've been going all over my plants
for bugs, I don't see any on the ones I want to take.



On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:43:51 +0000 (UTC), Hope Munro Smith
wrote:

Jonathan Sachs wrote in
m:

Animaux appears to have taken offense at my answers to his
questions, although it's not clear to me why. I hope this won't
deter others from posting if they have suggestions or facts to
contribute. This thread is intended to be an investigation, not an
argument.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.


I'm not sure if you have been following the thread "moving to
California" but I have an analogous problem. I have been getting so
much conflicting information about whether my plants will be allowed
into CA I am ready to either give them all away or risk smuggling them
inside boxes inside of the U-Haul van!





animaux 26-07-2003 01:02 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Since you quoted nothing, you are quite incorrect. Anybody who read my response
will see very clearly what transpired.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:27:21 GMT, Jonathan Sachs wrote:

Animaux appears to have taken offense at my answers to his questions,
although it's not clear to me why. I hope this won't deter others from
posting if they have suggestions or facts to contribute. This thread
is intended to be an investigation, not an argument.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.



Jonathan Sachs 26-07-2003 05:12 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Hope Munro Smith wrote:

I'm not sure if you have been following the thread "moving to California"
but I have an analogous problem. I have been getting so much conflicting
information about whether my plants will be allowed into CA I am ready to
either give them all away or risk smuggling them inside boxes inside of the
U-Haul van!


Go to the source:
http://www.cdfa.ca.gov/phpps/pe/tran...als_plants.htm

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

Jonathan Sachs 26-07-2003 05:22 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Hope Munro Smith wrote:

Do you have any cuttings left?


Once I know how many I will leave behind, friends will have first
dibs. After that, I want to give them to local people -- I really
don't want to try to ship them, except as a last resort. My original
offer was thoughtlessly worded, and didn't make that clear.

I should clarify what I've got. I propagated the tree from cuttings,
and I now have several small saplings (and one not-so-small one) in
clay pots. That's what I would have to ship. Taking fresh cutting will
not the feasible until the tree goes dormant in the fall, and by then
I will be long gone.

Hope, if you are coming to San Francisco area and will be here before
the middle of August, a handoff is feasible. Otherwise I don't think
it will work.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

Jonathan Sachs 26-07-2003 05:32 AM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Animaux, if you have useful information I hope you will share it with
the group.

Please accept that whenever offended you in my response to your
questions was not intended to do so. I can't address this any more
specifically because your reaction seemed baseless to me, and your
latest post didn't make any sense at all.

My mail address is jsachs177 at earthlink dot net.

Amberbock 26-07-2003 03:12 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Once I know how many I will leave behind, friends will have first
dibs. After that, I want to give them to local people -- I really
don't want to try to ship them, except as a last resort. My original
offer was thoughtlessly worded, and didn't make that clear.


I had a concern with moving plants when we moved up to Concord, NC from
Tampa Florida.
The "moving company" said I had to get a "certificate" that the plants were
ok to move. After calling around.. I found out that in MY area.. they were
concerned about RED ANTS. They didn't want any in NC. Someone came to look
at the plants and the Potted ones were ok to travel. I was not to dig any
up. Which was ok. But it ended up that I had SO many plants anyway.... I
couldn't take them all.

We were still packing the truck the night before....to leave the next
day.....and we discovered there wasn't room in the moving van or cars to
take all the plants. So in the dead night, i was putting plants on
neighbors front porches. [g] I hated leaving them too! I had to leave my 15
foot potted ficus [inside plant] for the new home-owner. I just tied a
ribbon on it and left it for her a a house warming gift. I dragged my huge
potted fish-tail fern down the block to a good home too. Good thing the pot
had wheels.
Dorothy



Frogleg 26-07-2003 03:12 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:45:08 +0000 (UTC), Hope Munro Smith
wrote:

Frogleg wrote in
:

I sent some of my favorites with the furniture in the moving van
(commercial) from west to east coast. I was not confident of survival,
but several, well-watered and surrounded (not on top) with cardboard
'cages' made it.

You can FedEx them, but best check on regs and packing advice.


Which plants made it under these conditions, do you remember?


It was a long time ago, but a 4.5' tall Euohorbia trigona, and a small
rosebush are the ones that linger in my mind. I still have descendants
of the trigona. The little rose struggled for several years, putting
out one blossom per season (I'm *not* a rose person) and finally
succumbed to a February thaw and subsequent March blizzard. They wee
in the van for at least a week, I didn't know diddly about plants at
the time, and the move was made in early July. In fact, a moving
co. should have info about packaging and plant importation. In a
perfect world, that is. :-)


MLEBLANCA 26-07-2003 06:32 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
In article , dsc darlin' sweet
cheeks @ who posts an email address anymore?.com writes:

Please keep in mind that exotic pests are wreaking havoc in
California. The uncaring nursery moguls who have introduced sudden oak
death to our state is only the latest disaster. There is a very good
reason to regulate plant entry into California to protect its
agriculture and environment, both of which are incredibly diverse
relative to anywhere else in the world.

Sneaking plants into California is a terrorist act.


Well said, dsc
this inspection in not done just to annoy people, but to protect the
agriculture
and special flora of our state.
Emilie


MLEBLANCA 26-07-2003 06:32 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
In article , Hope Munro Smith
writes:

Oh heavens, I was only joking! I've been going all over my plants
for bugs, I don't see any on the ones I want to take.


Hope I know You were joking, but there are many out there who do just
that. The inspectors are very good at detecting fibbers and I have seen
many of them along side the auto lanes unloading completely everything
that is in the trunk, trailer, motorhome etc.!!! All spread out in the parking
area.

Have you also checked the soil and roots. It is not just "bugs" but soil borne
disease/fungi/ larvae/grubs. What you could possibly do is remove the
plants from the pots and remove all soil so that they are bare root prior
to the inspection area. Why not just call the n umber and ask about that.
It may also be that they would not be interested in indoor orchids; they
may not harbor anything they would be checking for. ASK.

Are you driving a refrigerated truck? Plants are not going to enjoy being
boxed in a stifling hot truck in 100 PLUs degree weather, which is what
we are having or are you moving in winter?
When I returned to Calif I had 50 or more houseplants, which I gave away.
It was just too much bother. And I knew that I would have so many outside
plants that there would be no time to fuss with indoor ones. :^)
Besides we do have great places to buy houseplants here in Calif. !!

Anyways, welcome to your new home.
Emilie
Also in the Central Valley, but way up north........



MLEBLANCA 26-07-2003 06:32 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
In article , "Amberbock"
writes:

We were still packing the truck the night before....to leave the next
day.....and we discovered there wasn't room in the moving van or cars to
take all the plants. So in the dead night, i was putting plants on
neighbors front porches. [g] I hated leaving them too! I had to leave my 15
foot potted ficus [inside plant] for the new home-owner. I just tied a
ribbon on it and left it for her a a house warming gift. I dragged my huge
potted fish-tail fern down the block to a good home too. Good thing the pot
had wheels.
Dorothy


Good story Dorothy. I can relate.
Emilie

Tracey 26-07-2003 08:22 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
Besides we do have great places to buy houseplants
here in Calif. !!


And they tended to be cheaper, IIRC. Not sure about
the orchids because I wasn't interested in them when
I lived in CA, but regular houseplants, if you looked
around, were pretty cheap.

Tracey


Tracey 26-07-2003 08:22 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
I had to leave my 15 foot potted ficus [inside plant]
for the new home-owner.


Good call. Don't know about yours, but mine would have
to be nursed back to health after being moved a couple
of feet. I can't imagine what moving one that far of
a distance would require in nurturing. :)

Tracey


Tracey 26-07-2003 08:22 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 

Good story Dorothy. I can relate.


Oh, me, too. I had over a hundred potted plants when I
left Minnesota to move to Hawaii. People were scared
to come over to my house the last couple of months I
lived there because they were forced to take plants
with them when they left. :) In the end, a couple of
nice Jehovah's Witness ladies, instead of converting
me, were convinced to take a van load of plants with
them when they left, and, at the very end, one of the
moving men took the last 15 or so that were left. :)

And, I, too, left the ficus for the new homeowners.

Tracey


Hope Munro Smith 27-07-2003 05:42 PM

Cross-country move with plants?
 
In article ,
(MLEBLANCA) wrote:

In article , Hope Munro
Smith
writes:

Oh heavens, I was only joking! I've been going all over my plants
for bugs, I don't see any on the ones I want to take.


Hope I know You were joking, but there are many out there who do just
that. The inspectors are very good at detecting fibbers and I have seen
many of them along side the auto lanes unloading completely everything
that is in the trunk, trailer, motorhome etc.!!! All spread out in the
parking
area.

Have you also checked the soil and roots. It is not just "bugs" but soil
borne
disease/fungi/ larvae/grubs. What you could possibly do is remove the
plants from the pots and remove all soil so that they are bare root prior
to the inspection area. Why not just call the n umber and ask about that.
It may also be that they would not be interested in indoor orchids; they
may not harbor anything they would be checking for. ASK.

Are you driving a refrigerated truck? Plants are not going to enjoy being
boxed in a stifling hot truck in 100 PLUs degree weather, which is what
we are having or are you moving in winter?
When I returned to Calif I had 50 or more houseplants, which I gave away.
It was just too much bother. And I knew that I would have so many outside
plants that there would be no time to fuss with indoor ones. :^)
Besides we do have great places to buy houseplants here in Calif. !!

Anyways, welcome to your new home.
Emilie
Also in the Central Valley, but way up north........



Thanks for the advice! We have narrowed down to about half a dozen
plants, including the orchids, lucky bamboo, pothos, and a bromiliad
variety. The seem hardy and can take the moving van out of direct sun.
I'm going to see if they can be barerooted and packed in wet paper
towels to keep them from drying out totally.


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