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David J Bockman 07-08-2003 02:02 PM

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I found this article to be of enormous interest:

Garbage into Oil!

http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html



zxcvbob 07-08-2003 06:02 PM

slightly ot, was chemicals
 
David J Bockman wrote:
I found this article to be of enormous interest:

Garbage into Oil!

http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html


I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the refineries.

Regards,
Bob

--
"Stealing a Rhinoceros should not be attempted lightly" --Kehlog Albran


GrumpyAboutSpam 08-08-2003 07:03 PM

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Does anyone else besides me think that Warren is the next unibomber in the making?


"Warren" wrote in message news:5uAYa.91805$YN5.64733@sccrnsc01...
zxcvbob wrote:

I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the

refineries.


I can't find the reference, but in the last couple of weeks I came
across a story about a guy who took old tires, and built a fence in a
rural area with them, and ran into all kinds of legal troubles because
of the laws regarding the "disposal" of tires. I wonder how often
recycling efforts die not because the technology isn't there, but
because the laws are inflexible, and the folks who could change them
don't care to change them?

--
Warren H.

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Jan Flora 08-08-2003 07:03 PM

slightly ot, was chemicals
 
In article , zxcvbob
wrote:

David J Bockman wrote:
I found this article to be of enormous interest:

Garbage into Oil!

http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html


I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the refineries.

Regards,
Bob


In Europe, I've heard that they're mixing ground up old tires in asphaltic
concrete for road surfaces, with really good results.

Jan

David J Bockman 08-08-2003 07:03 PM

slightly ot, was chemicals
 
Yes, that recycling technique has been used for many years now-- a great way
to reuse millions of tires evry year. This technology though-- mentioned in
the article-- would through a very energy-efficient process render those
tires (or tyres, if you prefer) into oil... as well, other waste products
that are recycled can render materials that are critical in the production
of new tires..... it's all quite fascinating and very good news.

Dave

"Jan Flora" wrote in message
...
In article , zxcvbob
wrote:

David J Bockman wrote:
I found this article to be of enormous interest:

Garbage into Oil!

http://www.discover.com/may_03/featoil.html


I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the

refineries.

Regards,
Bob


In Europe, I've heard that they're mixing ground up old tires in asphaltic
concrete for road surfaces, with really good results.

Jan




Frogleg 08-08-2003 07:03 PM

slightly ot, was chemicals
 
On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 03:27:49 -0800, (Jan Flora)
wrote:

In article , zxcvbob
wrote:


I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the refineries.


In Europe, I've heard that they're mixing ground up old tires in asphaltic
concrete for road surfaces, with really good results.


This page has a good deal of general information on tire recycling.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumeri...riefs/ee9.html

It seems that while they *can* be reused/recycled, many of the
processes are just too expensive to be practical. Although, like
certain 'oil recovery' operations, when the price of an end-product
rises, some methods *do* become worth investing in.

Warren 11-08-2003 09:42 AM

slightly ot, was chemicals
 
zxcvbob wrote:

I've wondered for years why old tires were not ground up, the steel
removed with magnets, and the rubber mixed with crude oil at the

refineries.


I can't find the reference, but in the last couple of weeks I came
across a story about a guy who took old tires, and built a fence in a
rural area with them, and ran into all kinds of legal troubles because
of the laws regarding the "disposal" of tires. I wonder how often
recycling efforts die not because the technology isn't there, but
because the laws are inflexible, and the folks who could change them
don't care to change them?

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.
Blatant Plug:
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