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Mark Anderson 01-11-2003 08:12 PM

picking flower seeds
 
I've never been good at this but will try again this year harvesting
seeds from the plants. Do I need to harvest after the plant dies or can
I snip the seeds off now? I have a lot of moonflower and morning glory
seeds just waiting sitting there all closed up on the vine.


Frogleg 02-11-2003 12:02 PM

picking flower seeds
 
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:06:56 -0600, Mark Anderson
wrote:

I've never been good at this but will try again this year harvesting
seeds from the plants. Do I need to harvest after the plant dies or can
I snip the seeds off now? I have a lot of moonflower and morning glory
seeds just waiting sitting there all closed up on the vine.


Most flower seeds, in my experience, express their readiness to be
planted by starting to spill from the plant. That is, if they're
enclosed in pods, the pods dry and split; on others, the petals drop
off and the center 'seedy bits' become more prominent and dry. As I
recall, morning glories form a round pod that gradually turns papery
and dry, and begins to split, exposing the black seeds within.

If the flower seeds are "ripe" -- usually tan, brown or black, not
green, and dry -- they are ready to be harvested. Of course, given the
variety of the plant world, there is no single rule for this.

Tyra Trevellyn 03-11-2003 12:32 AM

picking flower seeds
 
From: Frogleg
Date: Sun, Nov 2, 2003 6:55 AM
Message-id:

On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 14:06:56 -0600, Mark Anderson
wrote:

I've never been good at this but will try again this year harvesting
seeds from the plants. Do I need to harvest after the plant dies or can


I snip the seeds off now? I have a lot of moonflower and morning glory


seeds just waiting sitting there all closed up on the vine.


Most flower seeds, in my experience, express their readiness to be
planted by starting to spill from the plant. That is, if they're
enclosed in pods, the pods dry and split; on others, the petals drop
off and the center 'seedy bits' become more prominent and dry. As I
recall, morning glories form a round pod that gradually turns papery
and dry, and begins to split, exposing the black seeds within.

If the flower seeds are "ripe" -- usually tan, brown or black, not
green, and dry -- they are ready to be harvested. Of course, given the
variety of the plant world, there is no single rule for this.



And so it goes for morning glories. As you mentioned, there will be smallish
round pods (often in clusters, as are the blooms that open mostly one at a time
in each cluster). When these are ripe and dry, a slight pinch to the pod will
send the hard black seeds into your palm. Or you can cut them off and sort
the seeds into paper bags for storage. Keep 'em cool and dry and they'll be
fine for next season's vines. (Moonflower pods are much bigger, but the
principle of seed gathering is the same).

Mark: It's an excellent idea to remove most of the pods before they're ripe
(if you haven't been deadheading, which is a job-and-a-half on morning
glories), unless you want beaucoup de seedlings next year. Or just pull the
vines down before the pods have dried and toss 'em.

Best,
Tyra
nNJ usa z7



Mark Anderson 03-11-2003 05:42 AM

picking flower seeds
 
In article oway says...
If the flower seeds are "ripe" -- usually tan, brown or black, not
green, and dry -- they are ready to be harvested. Of course, given the
variety of the plant world, there is no single rule for this.



And so it goes for morning glories. As you mentioned, there will be smallish
round pods (often in clusters, as are the blooms that open mostly one at a time
in each cluster). When these are ripe and dry, a slight pinch to the pod will
send the hard black seeds into your palm. Or you can cut them off and sort
the seeds into paper bags for storage. Keep 'em cool and dry and they'll be
fine for next season's vines. (Moonflower pods are much bigger, but the
principle of seed gathering is the same).

Mark: It's an excellent idea to remove most of the pods before they're ripe
(if you haven't been deadheading, which is a job-and-a-half on morning
glories), unless you want beaucoup de seedlings next year. Or just pull the
vines down before the pods have dried and toss 'em.


I had planned on harvesting a lot of seeds to start seedlings indoors
next Spring for my garden and to give away. I have a lot of morning
glory and moonflowers and there are a lot of pods. If I understand
right, I should let them sit out there and ripen on the vine for awhile
and then cut them free. It is very tempting to just snip them all off
right now and place them in a bag but I feared that maybe the seeds
aren't quite ready yet and they wouldn't germinated if harvested too
soon.





Tyra Trevellyn 03-11-2003 03:42 PM

picking flower seeds
 
Mark Anderson wrote:

In article
oway says...


And so it goes for morning glories. As you mentioned, there will be

smallish
round pods (often in clusters, as are the blooms that open mostly one

at a time
in each cluster). When these are ripe and dry, a slight pinch to the

pod will
send the hard black seeds into your palm. Or you can cut them off and

sort
the seeds into paper bags for storage. Keep 'em cool and dry and they'll

be
fine for next season's vines. (Moonflower pods are much bigger, but the
principle of seed gathering is the same).

Mark: It's an excellent idea to remove most of the pods before they're

ripe
(if you haven't been deadheading, which is a job-and-a-half on morning
glories), unless you want beaucoup de seedlings next year. Or just pull

the
vines down before the pods have dried and toss 'em.


I had planned on harvesting a lot of seeds to start seedlings indoors
next Spring for my garden and to give away. I have a lot of morning
glory and moonflowers and there are a lot of pods. If I understand
right, I should let them sit out there and ripen on the vine for awhile

and then cut them free. It is very tempting to just snip them all off
right now and place them in a bag but I feared that maybe the seeds
aren't quite ready yet and they wouldn't germinated if harvested too
soon.


What I was suggesting was that you cut off the RIPE pods into paper bags (or
any temporary container, really) so that the seeds won't scatter when you're
handling them.....to save you some headaches next spring. The ripe pods will
be dry, brown, and papery, with hard, blackish seeds within that will be
released easily when you pinch the pod. If they're not ready, leave 'em a bit
longer.....there's no rush. You should have plenty of ripe pods by now if you
had a good season of blooms. You can save these and then pull down the
vines, or continue to harvest seeds as they ripen. You can also cut pieces of
the vine with clusters of unripened pods, hang these in a sunny spot, and allow
these to ripen in a more controlled manner.

After you've gathered a good supply of seeds, my suggestion is to pull down the
vines and dispose of them, to avoid excess germination of the seeds that are
still present.

Keep the ripe seeds in a cool, dry environment; I keep most seeds in paper
envelopes and store the envelopes in shoeboxes in an unheated garage.

Best,
Tyra
nNJ usa z7

Lee 05-11-2003 01:42 AM

picking flower seeds
 
Mark Anderson wrote in message y.net...

..

I had planned on harvesting a lot of seeds to start seedlings indoors
next Spring for my garden and to give away. I have a lot of morning
glory and moonflowers and there are a lot of pods. If I understand
right, I should let them sit out there and ripen on the vine for awhile
and then cut them free. It is very tempting to just snip them all off
right now and place them in a bag but I feared that maybe the seeds
aren't quite ready yet and they wouldn't germinated if harvested too
soon.


Mark.. if your morning glories are like mine, you will have plenty of
volunters next spring. i have been, even this late in the year,
scruffing out sprouts! ...but still...it's a good idea to save a few
just in case!

lee h


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