Jumping Chollas!!!

That's a real knee slapper, Snoop Salty Dog.

That's right, we're all a bunk of roughneck cowboys with no time for prissy
fusspots and their limp wristed garden parties. If you don't like it, we
will run you out of town on a rail.


"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
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wrote in
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You know, I've been back and forth with this group over the years;
usually lurking, occasionally posting an answer if I have one to
give.

But this year I see the group has become pretty meanspirited.
Everyone directs inquirers to other sources, never giving their
experience, thoughts or whatever, and now including a few snipes like
read the label, look it up, do it yourself, etc. etc. etc.

This sure isn't the group it used to be.

What happened to the friendly people that used to be here? Have they
been driven away?

Yes, I'm out of here.
KS


All the friendlies jumped ship for Chola's Gardening and More Than You
Wanted to Know Nevada "Ranch" web forums.

The only ones left here are us misfits, loud mouths, lunatics (WE LIKE THE
MOON, IT IS GOOD TO US), shills, trolls and a few rejected gnomes.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:35:06 -0800, wrote:

But this year I see the group has become pretty meanspirited.
Everyone directs inquirers to other sources, never giving their
experience, thoughts or whatever, and now including a few snipes like
read the label, look it up, do it yourself, etc. etc. etc.

I beg to differ. I believe nearly all the inquiries requesting
specific information or experience are answered adequately and
politely (with the usual exceptions for any newsgroup). Even when a
troll posts only "how do I garden?" he generally gets a few hints, or
a follow-up query to clarify the situation.

I see little point in writing a treatise on, say, growing tomatoes,
when I can suggest a good web site on the subject. Some posters don't
appear to know how to use search engines. It isn't mean-spirited to
suggest how this is done.

When someone posts "how much sun does XYZ plant need, and can I grow
it in zone 6 (or mentions a location)?" there are *heaps* of relevent
answers.

Bleeding Janet talks pretty tough for a school marm in a floppy hat and
tennis shoes.

Turns out she's actually a champion in regional bitch slapping and tag team
gossip tournaments.

Everything she grows in her garden is overtly phallic: cucumbers, carrots
and zucchinis!! That's why she doesn't need any friends, if you know what I
mean. Whe she hoes in the garden, she really hoes in the garden!!! Nudge,
nudge, wink, wink!!


"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
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Janet Bledsoe wrote in
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This newsgroup servers no purpose. I've been here for years and it
has and continues to downgrade. There is no use for this group, nor
it's infested list of unhappy, miserable, snobby, whining and as you
put it mean-spirited people. They have no respect for others, and
little respect for themselves. I strictly read it for amusement now,
when I can find the time to drop by, and need a laugh.


You are such a MEANY! Why can't you say something nice about us? cry
cry

j/k

Tempted to say, "don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out," but
that would be mean spirited
Frank

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:35:06 -0800, kensnow wrote:


You know, I've been back and forth with this group over the years;
usually lurking, occasionally posting an answer if I have one to
give.

But this year I see the group has become pretty meanspirited.
Everyone directs inquirers to other sources, never giving their
experience, thoughts or whatever, and now including a few snipes like
read the label, look it up, do it yourself, etc. etc. etc.

This sure isn't the group it used to be.

What happened to the friendly people that used to be here? Have they
been driven away?

Yes, I'm out of here.
KS


Something I have noted are the number of "experts". Everyone's an expert
these days, it seems.

On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:57:15 GMT, Frogleg wrote:
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 11:35:06 -0800, wrote:

But this year I see the group has become pretty meanspirited.
Everyone directs inquirers to other sources, never giving their
experience, thoughts or whatever, and now including a few snipes like
read the label, look it up, do it yourself, etc. etc. etc.

I beg to differ. I believe nearly all the inquiries requesting
specific information or experience are answered adequately and
politely (with the usual exceptions for any newsgroup). Even when a
troll posts only "how do I garden?" he generally gets a few hints, or
a follow-up query to clarify the situation.

I see little point in writing a treatise on, say, growing tomatoes,
when I can suggest a good web site on the subject. Some posters don't
appear to know how to use search engines. It isn't mean-spirited to
suggest how this is done.

When someone posts "how much sun does XYZ plant need, and can I grow
it in zone 6 (or mentions a location)?" there are *heaps* of relevent
answers.
Suggesting a good web site on a subject is a good thing to do, and
should be just as good as answering directly. That a great starting
point for a user finding information on their own. Posting a link to
Google is not.

It would be hard to find someone that is more experienced with search
engines then I am, and even though I use google frequently there are
limits to its usefulness. Some searches are easy and quickly return
the exact information you need, while other searches are more
difficult to do and are drowned in the noise of the Internet.

Its funny, I've often seen people posting a question on a topic, not
just on gardening but anything really, and one of the replies is
sometimes a "do a google search, moron" reply that may actually
contain a google search to use. When I follow that link I usually see
the very same post I was in at the top of the list, followed by others
asking the same question, with similar useless responses. The answer
is often buried, if its there at all, under a long lists of search
results. The point is if you do a google search, you'll probably see
yourself in the mirror asking the question in this newsgroup.

Swyck

Dwight Sipler wrote in
:

Salty Thumb wrote:

...The only ones left here are us misfits, loud mouths, lunatics (WE
LIKE THE
MOON, IT IS GOOD TO US), shills, trolls and a few rejected gnomes...




There are some cute, fluffy kittens here also.
http://www.rathergood.com/vines

Stay away from whoever's providing dental coverage for those guys ....

that's a shame honey. didn't take personal offence at what you said, I
agree with it, but it doesn't run me off. I reply to questions
sometimes....I contribute silly rambles about my own gardens and
occaisonally misunderstand someone, but I still love most of the people here
that I've known on and off for almost 9 years. And I still make new friends
on occaison here. Don't let the snipping get to you. It's still a good
newsgroup and we're pretty decent people.............I'm visiting Garden Web
on occaison now because there's a bit more serious garden talk there,
despite someone's views on it themselves. He's entitled to his opinions.
But I like GW. And I love wreck.gardens. were it not for this newsgroup and
Zhan,grdngal, Ann, V, Pottingshed, John Skeff, Geoff,Tomkanpa, Gloria,
Shell, Marilyn, Iris, Ingrid, Star,IGROWROCKS,Virginia Pendergrass,Spunkie,
Swani,Pen,Alluskanes,Bill, Pat,Beecrofter,Atilla the Pun, Gandy Dancer,
Hawk,Barb Yanus, Beeky, Callen, Carlotta, Caryn,Cheryl, Cindy,David
Wslos,Paghat,Zemedelec,Helen, Katie, LeeAnne,Leona, Marsha, Mary Ellen
Magoc,Nancy, Toadses and Tyra and gods knows how many more garden friends
who've visited over the back fence, I'd not gotten the courage to write what
I write. Inspired or just rambling or needing to talk to someone about my
passion, my problems, my life and listening to theirs as well. Victoria
celebrating being well....Hawk losing his sweet lady, Tom's bad jokes, Gandy
Dancers awesome jokes and Atilla the Pun's sharp wit. Even Cereoid's dry wit
is neat sometimes, it just has it's moment. I hope you aren't giving up on
all of us honey. Lurk if you need to, but this group isn't as mean spirited
as you think it is. It's just a few..........
madgardener up on the ridge, back in fairy holler, overlooking English
Mountian in Eastern Tennessee, zone 7, Sunset zone 36
wrote in message
...

You know, I've been back and forth with this group over the years;
usually lurking, occasionally posting an answer if I have one to
give.

But this year I see the group has become pretty meanspirited.
Everyone directs inquirers to other sources, never giving their
experience, thoughts or whatever, and now including a few snipes like
read the label, look it up, do it yourself, etc. etc. etc.

This sure isn't the group it used to be.

What happened to the friendly people that used to be here? Have they
been driven away?

Yes, I'm out of here.
KS

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:10:03 +0000, Cereus-validus wrote:

Except that you think you are some kind of "Will Rogers" out of nowhere.

Sorry. I left out commentators of the vacuous.

That's you, MC, the evacuating vacuole!!!

When shit happens, MC just took another dump!



"MC" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:10:03 +0000, Cereus-validus wrote:

Except that you think you are some kind of "Will Rogers" out of nowhere.

Sorry. I left out commentators of the vacuous.

You a roughneck cowboy?
A homophobic needle dick is more accurate!


On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:53:11 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

That's right, we're all a bunk of roughneck cowboys with no time for prissy
fusspots and their limp wristed garden parties. If you don't like it, we
will run you out of town on a rail.

On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 13:23:54 +0000, Cereus-validus wrote:

That's you, MC, the evacuating vacuole!!!

When shit happens, MC just took another dump!



"MC" wrote in message
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 08:10:03 +0000, Cereus-validus wrote:

Except that you think you are some kind of "Will Rogers" out of nowhere.

Sorry. I left out commentators of the vacuous.



Get a life.
Your comments are anything but helpful or thoughtful. Are you a compost
heap that has come alive?

I happen to be a curmudgeon.
One who also happens to garden.
Spoonfeeding the aliterate is not a great passion, so sometimes to
everyone's great horror I suggest a book or a website for further
study.
I guess this is terribly mean spirited.
Well, don't let the server hit you in the ass!


Tom

In article ,
(Beecrofter) wrote:

I happen to be a curmudgeon.

Coming for you with a bludgeon

One who also happens to garden

While huffin' & puffin' & farten'

Spoonfeeding the aliterate is not a great passion,

But kicking some butt is a wonderful fashion


Tom

& paghat

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

In article ,
(Beecrofter) wrote:

I happen to be a curmudgeon.

Coming for you with a bludgeon

One who also happens to garden

While huffin' & puffin' & farten'

Spoonfeeding the aliterate is not a great passion,

But kicking some butt is a wonderful fashion


Tom

& paghat

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/