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Billyba 10-03-2004 08:59 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
My bermuda lawn is still dormant, but will probably start growing very soon.

Some places in the yard, however, have nice green crabgrass or fescue patches
that have sprouted up from neighbor's yard (or some other reason).

Question: Can I safely use grass killer spray on the green grass and not hurt
the dormant bermuda? I think these work by coating the green part of the leaf
and thereby getting into the root, which shouldn't happen with the bermuda since
it's not actively growing, right?



B & J 11-03-2004 06:02 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
"Billyba" wrote in message
...
My bermuda lawn is still dormant, but will probably start growing very

soon.

Some places in the yard, however, have nice green crabgrass or fescue

patches
that have sprouted up from neighbor's yard (or some other reason).

Question: Can I safely use grass killer spray on the green grass and not

hurt
the dormant bermuda? I think these work by coating the green part of the

leaf
and thereby getting into the root, which shouldn't happen with the bermuda

since
it's not actively growing, right?

I don't know your zone, but bermuda allows one to spot spray perennial
grasses with RoundUp without killing dormant bermuda. You are probably too
late this year. In zone 6 I find that late February is the latest spraying
time without leaving bare patches in the lawn. It's still possible to hit
the perennial grass patches but expect a month of bare spots before the
bermuda grows back.

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is an
annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants and
doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local extension
service about controlling annual grasses.

John



D. Gerasimatos 11-03-2004 07:42 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
In article ,
B & J wrote:

I don't know your zone, but bermuda allows one to spot spray perennial
grasses with RoundUp without killing dormant bermuda. You are probably too
late this year. In zone 6 I find that late February is the latest spraying
time without leaving bare patches in the lawn. It's still possible to hit
the perennial grass patches but expect a month of bare spots before the
bermuda grows back.

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is an
annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants and
doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local extension
service about controlling annual grasses.



I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab grass.
If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri


B & J 12-03-2004 05:12 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 

"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is an
annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants and
doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local extension
service about controlling annual grasses.



I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab grass.
If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in your
yard.

John




Steveo 12-03-2004 05:32 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
"B & J" wrote:
"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is
an annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants
and doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local
extension service about controlling annual grasses.



I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab
grass. If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in
your yard.

John

It might be Quackgrass, but I'm an Ohio turf guy. Need pics.

Janice 12-03-2004 05:39 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
On 12 Mar 2004 05:14:49 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

"B & J" wrote:
"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is
an annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants
and doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local
extension service about controlling annual grasses.


I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab
grass. If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in
your yard.

John

It might be Quackgrass, but I'm an Ohio turf guy. Need pics.


I used to have clumps of orchard grass that if kept mowed formed
spreading yellowish green coarse flat bladed spots in the yard, if
left to grow it would form conical tufts and grow 3 or more feet tall.
I don't know what the scientific name is, Dad .. who died at 94 in
1998.. called it Orchard grass. This is Idaho zone 6 no a or b.

Janice

Steveo 12-03-2004 05:42 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
"B & J" wrote:
"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is
an annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants
and doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local
extension service about controlling annual grasses.



I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab
grass. If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in
your yard.

John

It might be Quackgrass, but I'm an Ohio turf guy. Need pics.

Janice 12-03-2004 05:52 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
On 12 Mar 2004 05:14:49 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

"B & J" wrote:
"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is
an annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants
and doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local
extension service about controlling annual grasses.


I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab
grass. If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?


Dimitri

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in
your yard.

John

It might be Quackgrass, but I'm an Ohio turf guy. Need pics.


I used to have clumps of orchard grass that if kept mowed formed
spreading yellowish green coarse flat bladed spots in the yard, if
left to grow it would form conical tufts and grow 3 or more feet tall.
I don't know what the scientific name is, Dad .. who died at 94 in
1998.. called it Orchard grass. This is Idaho zone 6 no a or b.

Janice

D. Gerasimatos 12-03-2004 07:42 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
In article ,
B & J wrote:

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in your
yard.



I am in Zone 9, Southern California. It is not a perennial grass. It is an
annual grass that will be gone on its own in a few months. The color is
light green and it grows in spreading clumps.


Dimitri


omi 13-03-2004 04:02 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...
In article ,
B & J wrote:

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as

crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b)

are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have

in your
yard.



I am in Zone 9, Southern California. It is not a perennial grass. It

is an
annual grass that will be gone on its own in a few months. The color

is
light green and it grows in spreading clumps.


I am also in Zone 9 (in AZ) and my hybrid Bermudagrass lawn has had
clumps of crabgrass in it since mid January. MSMA doesn't seem to
affect it so we are pulling it out by hand. Pretty tedious. Olin




Dimitri




Birk N. Stock 13-03-2004 03:37 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 


D. Gerasimatos wrote:
In article ,
B & J wrote:

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in your
yard.




I am in Zone 9, Southern California. It is not a perennial grass. It is an
annual grass that will be gone on its own in a few months. The color is
light green and it grows in spreading clumps.


Dimitri


Sounds like poa annua to me.


Birk N. Stock 13-03-2004 03:47 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 


D. Gerasimatos wrote:
In article ,
B & J wrote:

If you're north of zone 7, your local nursery has to be wrong about
identifying green patches in your yard at this time of year as crabgrass.
It's still too cold. The few grass patches in my yard now (zone 6b) are
patches of tall fescue. I have no idea what perennial grass you have in your
yard.




I am in Zone 9, Southern California. It is not a perennial grass. It is an
annual grass that will be gone on its own in a few months. The color is
light green and it grows in spreading clumps.


Dimitri


Sounds like poa annua to me.


D. Gerasimatos 13-03-2004 05:49 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
In article , Birk N. Stock wrote:

Sounds like poa annua to me.



Ah yes! It is! Now that you mention it the nursery said it was blue grass
and commonly called crab grass.


Dimitri


D. Gerasimatos 13-03-2004 05:49 PM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
In article , Birk N. Stock wrote:

Sounds like poa annua to me.



Ah yes! It is! Now that you mention it the nursery said it was blue grass
and commonly called crab grass.


Dimitri


Steveo 16-03-2004 04:16 AM

Killing crabgrass/fescue in my still dormant bermuda
 
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote:
In article ,
B & J wrote:

I don't know your zone, but bermuda allows one to spot spray perennial
grasses with RoundUp without killing dormant bermuda. You are probably
too late this year. In zone 6 I find that late February is the latest
spraying time without leaving bare patches in the lawn. It's still
possible to hit the perennial grass patches but expect a month of bare
spots before the bermuda grows back.

The green patches at this time of year are not crabgrass. Crabgrass is
an annual which grows from seeds dropped from previous year's plants and
doesn't begin growing until warm weather. Check with your local
extension service about controlling annual grasses.


I have this grass, too, and the local nursery identified it as crab
grass. If it is not crab grass, what do you think it is?

Dimitri

Does it grow upright, or does it crawl along the ground and then
grow upright?

Can you show a pic of it?


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