On 16 Mar 2004 15:03:24 GMT, (Helen J. Foss)
wrote:

For several years now I have posted 'FREE SEEDS - POSTAGE PAID' on
rec/gardens and received multi requests for tomato seeds.
I filled the requests for what folks asked for. Took the time to
label the individual little 'baggies', insert the seeds, secured them
between cardboard sheets and mailed them off at my own expense. I didn't,
and don't have a problem with this.
I put together over 300 packets last fall alone and enjoyed doing
it. The ONLY thing I asked in return was that the recipients of my labors,
notify me when they received the seeds....I don't think that was too much
to ask for.
A few offered me some different seeds, which I though was a nice
gesture on their part, and I accepted the offer. To this day I have not
received any seeds, but that doesn't really bother me as much as the fact
that a few of the ones I sent seeds to, didn't have the common courtesy to
sit at the keyboard for one minute, and tell me they received the
seeds....how long does it take to say 'I got them'?
I have sent seeds to many States, Alaska (I know it's a State),
Australia, United Kingdom and Wales and received reports that the seeds
have done well in their area.
Now suddenly I'm receiving further requests for seeds, and have
already maialed out over 150 packets, for which I have received replies of
their arrival.
To the folks that sent me messages telling me of their arrival, I
say a BIG THANK you, and hope I'll be able to send you some new and
different seeds next fall.
To the folks that were too busy to spend a minute on the
keyboard, I say THANKS FOR NOTHING, and there will be no further shipments
from this source.
To those who want to flame me, just want to say that I had to vent
my disappointment in certain people that have no time to show a little
common courtesy to a fellow gardener.
Hope you all have a great growing season and abundant crops.
I think she has a perfect reason to be up set she does not have to
share her seeds with any one and she gives freely of her time ,
money , and garden and asks only that she know if her gift arrived
ok.
Just to drive home the point.
I was thining out my bulb garden and moving bulbs from one bed to
another when a girl who was about twelve came up to me an asked what
I was doing , maybe she was ten well whatever , I told her I was
moving plants from one spot to another and she kept asking questions
like what kind and where i was going to put the new ones I liked
her so much I gave her a few fulbs she could plant at home her
mother stoped by a few weeks later and her daughter was with her .
she was so happy I had given the flowers to her daughter and they had
planted them in pots and were watching them grow.
I had wondered what the little girl had done with them and it was nice
to know tha tmy little gift was well recieved the little girl said
thank you and said she loved them.
I didnt' expect to ever see her again after I gave her the flower
bulbs and I didnt' know if she would even keep them but to find she
did and that she planted them with her mother an that my silly
little gift made her so happy Well that made me feel like a million
bucks.
it was so great
Just knowing that a gift you send is valued and that the person cared
for your gift and hard work is wonderful
but if you don't hear from those people you feel let down and feel
like your gift was unimportant and no one cared and that feels
awful
I can relate to how she feels to send out her seeds and how good it
feels to do nice things for others
if the little girl had thrown away the bulbs or just didnt 'care I'd
had been a little sad and let down
and that was an unsolicited gift these people solicit the gift of
seeds from her so they do owe her some thanks at least the knollege
that the gift was appreciated
any one who does not agree should read "The Chrysanthimum " It's a
classic tale of just such a gift that was thrown away with out a
thought or care and the hurt it caused a person
michelle

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:26:45 -0600, zxcvbob
wrote:

Helen J. Foss wrote:

For several years now I have posted 'FREE SEEDS - POSTAGE PAID' on
rec/gardens and received multi requests for tomato seeds.
I filled the requests for what folks asked for. Took the time to
label the individual little 'baggies', insert the seeds, secured them
between cardboard sheets and mailed them off at my own expense. I didn't,
and don't have a problem with this.
I put together over 300 packets last fall alone and enjoyed doing
it. The ONLY thing I asked in return was that the recipients of my labors,
notify me when they received the seeds....I don't think that was too much
to ask for.
A few offered me some different seeds, which I though was a nice
gesture on their part, and I accepted the offer. To this day I have not
received any seeds, but that doesn't really bother me as much as the fact
that a few of the ones I sent seeds to, didn't have the common courtesy to
sit at the keyboard for one minute, and tell me they received the
seeds....how long does it take to say 'I got them'?
I have sent seeds to many States, Alaska (I know it's a State),
Australia, United Kingdom and Wales and received reports that the seeds
have done well in their area.
Now suddenly I'm receiving further requests for seeds, and have
already maialed out over 150 packets, for which I have received replies of
their arrival.
To the folks that sent me messages telling me of their arrival, I
say a BIG THANK you, and hope I'll be able to send you some new and
different seeds next fall.
To the folks that were too busy to spend a minute on the
keyboard, I say THANKS FOR NOTHING, and there will be no further shipments
from this source.
To those who want to flame me, just want to say that I had to vent
my disappointment in certain people that have no time to show a little
common courtesy to a fellow gardener.
Hope you all have a great growing season and abundant crops.


If I recall correctly, you posted the "real life" names and addresses of
a bunch of the people you sent seeds too. (It's been a while so I could
be mistaken, but I do remember being shocked by something like that)

After being "outted" like that, some folks may have not wanted anything
more to do with you or your seeds.

I sent some dried peppers a few years ago to someone in Canada and they
were never delivered. Customs agents probably confiscated them and
didn't bother to send a postcard stating such. We had exchanged seeds
previously without any problems. So maybe people never sent you a
"thank-you" because they never received the seeds.

Just a few observations,
Bob
actually you pretty much just supported her argument she was
asking for a comfirmation of weather the people got the seeds or not
if they never got them then they should have told her so and the rest
are jerks maybe if they never got them she would have sent more if
she had them
she never asked for thanks just a comfirmation
michelle

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 18:48:36 GMT, Janet Baraclough..
wrote:

The message a
from Bonnie Punch contains these words:


Paghat meant emotionally needy. I knew that, and I meant that she is
not any more needy than the rest of us.

Okay..because your next sentence mentioned financial expense I thought
you might have misread.

We *all* manipulate people
*all* the time.

I don't agree; I think most of us do it deliberately at some time or
other. But many people consciously avoid doing it, as much as possible.

We pay attention to a spouse/lover so that they will
love us, and we won't be alone. We flatter a friend so they'll like us
and we'll have someone to talk to.

Do you? How very odd. I don't do either of those things. My husband
still adores me unconditionally, and my friends know that a compliment
from me is genuinely deserved by them and genuinely felt by me.

In order to get you have to give.

That isn't generosity, it's self-seeking.

Maybe she's just really nice?

Could be :-)

What's she supposed to do?
People
need to be reminded of basic ettiquette sometimes, and some people
won't get it unless you hit them upside the head with a clue-by-four.

I would be very surprised if any uncaring selfish ingrates would give
a damn about a general public rant about basic etiquette. They've got
away with their bad manners scot-free; nobody here knows who they are,
so they won't lose out next time there's a general seed-offer.

This isn't the first time someone has complained here of a lack of a
decent response when sending out items.

Exactly; so everyone knows by now that if you send seeds to usenet
strangers, not all of them will bother to thank. People are responsible
for themselves and the consequences of their own choices, as Victoria
and Paghat have already said.

Thankyou for this conversation :-)

Janet.


ok all thanks and B.S. aside
the seed sendin gcan sor of be like a contract the people know she
wants to know the seeds did or did not arrive that's all if they do
not intend to let her know weather or not they did or did not arrive
they should not order any seeds it's a sad fact of life that
inconsiderate people exist but not much we can do about it but
name calling at this lady is uncalled for
she simply asked for a damn responds up front and she expected to get
on she has a certain expectation of respondse and if she dosen't get
it than she can get upset if she wants to after all their her seeds
and they have enriched someone elses life it's at least nice to know
they arrived
its part of the deal that people agree to when they ask for seeds
so why are we name calling on a simple matter why do we choose to
hurt peoples feelings on purpose
it's not really right is it?
calling her names is just not necessary
and so what if she is needy lots of people are in fact I bet every
one is needy sometimes
some needy people are anoying they just take and take and take
an give nothing this woman gives back plenty fold
michelle

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:53:27 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

All I can add to this thread is how "Sad" the person must be who considers
saying "Thank you" for a gift is a form of payment.
yes it is but a fundimental one that is a part of life

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:53:27 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

All I can add to this thread is how "Sad" the person must be who considers
saying "Thank you" for a gift is a form of payment.
yes it is but a fundimental one that is a part of life

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 14:53:27 -0000, "David Hill"
wrote:

All I can add to this thread is how "Sad" the person must be who considers
saying "Thank you" for a gift is a form of payment.
yes it is but a fundimental one that is a part of life