Planting kumquat seeds
 

I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I planted
key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots from one
seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the seeds? I know
kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than limes, so I wouldn't
think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?

Best regards,
Bob

Planting kumquat seeds
 

zxcvbob in
:

I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I
planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots
from one seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the
seeds? I know kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than
limes, so I wouldn't think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?

never tried. if oyu cut a seed open, does it look healthy?

you collected these so you know they haven't been treated (badly), yes?


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=kumquat+seeds+grow+%
7C+sprout+&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1

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Planting kumquat seeds
 

zxcvbob in
:

I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I
planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots
from one seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the
seeds? I know kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than
limes, so I wouldn't think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?

never tried. if oyu cut a seed open, does it look healthy?

you collected these so you know they haven't been treated (badly), yes?


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=kumquat+seeds+grow+%
7C+sprout+&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1

leads to
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19970102205900.PAA22746%40ladder01.news.aol.com&rn um=9&prev=/groups%3Fq%
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Planting kumquat seeds
 

zxcvbob in
:

I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I
planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots
from one seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the
seeds? I know kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than
limes, so I wouldn't think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?

never tried. if oyu cut a seed open, does it look healthy?

you collected these so you know they haven't been treated (badly), yes?


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=kumquat+seeds+grow+%
7C+sprout+&btnG=Google+Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1

leads to
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...UTF-8&threadm=
19970102205900.PAA22746%40ladder01.news.aol.com&rn um=9&prev=/groups%3Fq%
3Dkumquat%2Bseeds%2Bgrow%2B%257C%2Bsprout%2B%26btn G%3DGoogle%2BSearch%
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Planting kumquat seeds
 

wrote:
zxcvbob in
:


I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I
planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots
from one seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the
seeds? I know kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than
limes, so I wouldn't think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?


never tried. if oyu cut a seed open, does it look healthy?

you collected these so you know they haven't been treated (badly), yes?



I scratched a couple of seeds up, and they are germinating. They just are
taking a *long* time. The key lime seeds came up in a week.

The kumquats were some that Wife bought at the store and I don't know how
badly they might have been treated. They were refrigerated, and I know the
key limes were not.

Best regards,
Bob

Planting kumquat seeds
 

wrote:
zxcvbob in
:


I've planted maybe 50 kumquat seeds and had zero come up. When I
planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of them had 2 shoots
from one seed. Does refrigerating the kumquats kill or slow down the
seeds? I know kumquat trees are much less sensitive to cold than
limes, so I wouldn't think so. Why won't my kumquat seeds grow?


never tried. if oyu cut a seed open, does it look healthy?

you collected these so you know they haven't been treated (badly), yes?



I scratched a couple of seeds up, and they are germinating. They just are
taking a *long* time. The key lime seeds came up in a week.

The kumquats were some that Wife bought at the store and I don't know how
badly they might have been treated. They were refrigerated, and I know the
key limes were not.

Best regards,
Bob

Planting kumquat seeds
 

"............When I planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of
them had 2 shoots from one seed. ........."

When you are growing citrus from seed the seedlings will not come true to
the fruit you had the seed from. BUT where you get 2 plants from the one
seed then One of those 2 WILL be like the parent fruit.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Planting kumquat seeds
 

"............When I planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of
them had 2 shoots from one seed. ........."

When you are growing citrus from seed the seedlings will not come true to
the fruit you had the seed from. BUT where you get 2 plants from the one
seed then One of those 2 WILL be like the parent fruit.

--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Planting kumquat seeds
 

David Hill wrote:

"............When I planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of
them had 2 shoots from one seed. ........."

When you are growing citrus from seed the seedlings will not come true to
the fruit you had the seed from. BUT where you get 2 plants from the one
seed then One of those 2 WILL be like the parent fruit.


Which one? The strong seedling, or the sickly one that comes up second?

Best regards,
Bob

Planting kumquat seeds
 

"............. When I planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of
them had 2 shoots from one seed. ........."

When you are growing citrus from seed the seedlings will not come true to
the fruit you had the seed from. BUT where you get 2 plants from the one
seed then One of those 2 WILL be like the parent fruit.


Which one? The strong seedling, or the sickly one that comes up second?
........"
Now to know that would make it to easy, but at least by saving only the
double plants you reduce the odds to 50%


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Planting kumquat seeds
 

"............. When I planted key lime seeds, every seed sprouted; some of
them had 2 shoots from one seed. ........."

When you are growing citrus from seed the seedlings will not come true to
the fruit you had the seed from. BUT where you get 2 plants from the one
seed then One of those 2 WILL be like the parent fruit.


Which one? The strong seedling, or the sickly one that comes up second?
........"
Now to know that would make it to easy, but at least by saving only the
double plants you reduce the odds to 50%


--
David Hill
Abacus nurseries
www.abacus-nurseries.co.uk

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?
What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.
What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)
Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Thanks for your help.


Old_Dodger,
I crossposted your question over to a couple of groups where the
experts on this subject hang out.

n.

Seeds
 

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.


On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:34:07 -0400, North said:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?
What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.
What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)
Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Thanks for your help.


Old_Dodger,
I crossposted your question over to a couple of groups where the
experts on this subject hang out.

n.

Seeds
 

North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.


Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:54:09 GMT, old_codger said:



North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.


Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

You might give the yahoogroup "Organic Homesteading Gardening" a try.

http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/or...adinggardening

As for me, I hit the garden supply store when they have their big end
of year sale. I buy the regular seed packs (envolopes) and I store
them in a jar with a few O2 absorbers the lid sealed tight of course
and kept in the dark. After 5 years the seeds still sprout and grow,
YMMV. I think the trick for long term seed storage is the same as long
term grain storage, where O2 and water are the enemy (alone with
light).

I have no clue if the seeds I buy and store are non-hybrid or not and
if their seeds will sprout. I just buy enough seed to last 20 or so
years, of course I rotate these every chance I get (while we still
have places to buy seeds, ect...)

n.

Seeds
 

As long as you keep the seeds dry they will last a long time. I keep
mine in a plastic one gallon container in the fridge and have viable
seeds that are up to ten years old. You can even freeze them if you seal
them in a container, used to keep heirloom field pea seeds that way. I
keep all the seeds in the containers in paper envelopes, the smaller
batches in el cheapo coin envelopes, the rest in el cheapo small size
mailing envelopes. YMMV

George

old_codger wrote:


North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.



Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?

Depends on the seed. Some die immediately (... coffee), some can sprout
after hundreds of years (... mullein).

What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.

What kinds of vegetables and root crops do you like?

What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)

You want heirloom seeds. That is, NON-hybrid.

Hybrids, well, they work if you have nothing else, and if you have a
steady supply to buy more when what you have is gone, but be aware that
hybrid offspring will look nothing much like the parent(s).

Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Your local garden center / feed store.
They'll have types that thrive in YOUR climate.

What you really want is to get a garden going. Then you can see in
practice what you're now asking in theory.
And the best way to keep seeds, long-term, is on a succession of live
plants.

Nothing to do with preserving, so I've removed that bit.

Henriette

--
Henriette Kress, AHG * * * * * * * * * * *Helsinki, Finland
Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed

Seeds
 

North wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:54:09 GMT, old_codger said:



North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.


Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

You might give the yahoogroup "Organic Homesteading Gardening" a try.

http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/or...adinggardening

As for me, I hit the garden supply store when they have their big end
of year sale. I buy the regular seed packs (envolopes) and I store
them in a jar with a few O2 absorbers the lid sealed tight of course
and kept in the dark. After 5 years the seeds still sprout and grow,
YMMV. I think the trick for long term seed storage is the same as long
term grain storage, where O2 and water are the enemy (alone with
light).

I have no clue if the seeds I buy and store are non-hybrid or not and
if their seeds will sprout. I just buy enough seed to last 20 or so
years, of course I rotate these every chance I get (while we still
have places to buy seeds, ect...)


What do you buy. Just a mix of veggies and grains?

Seeds
 

Henriette Kress wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?

Depends on the seed. Some die immediately (... coffee), some can sprout
after hundreds of years (... mullein).

What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.

What kinds of vegetables and root crops do you like?

What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)

You want heirloom seeds. That is, NON-hybrid.

Hybrids, well, they work if you have nothing else, and if you have a
steady supply to buy more when what you have is gone, but be aware that
hybrid offspring will look nothing much like the parent(s).

Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Your local garden center / feed store.
They'll have types that thrive in YOUR climate.

What you really want is to get a garden going. Then you can see in
practice what you're now asking in theory.
And the best way to keep seeds, long-term, is on a succession of live
plants.


I do a garden every year but it's just veggies, peppers and the like.
No grains.

Seeds
 

Xref: kermit misc.survivalism:556713 rec.gardens:271732 rec.gardens.edible:69506

old_codger wrote:

I do a garden every year but it's just veggies, peppers and the like.
No grains.

The seeds in bird feed generally sprout, and are edible. (Not real
palatable.) Not any good for bread unless you add the right grains,
but they'll do for supplying calories and baiting in quail and dove.

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:30:32 +0300, Henriette Kress
wrote:


Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Your local garden center / feed store.
They'll have types that thrive in YOUR climate.

I don't know where the original poster is located, but this
sure hasn't been true in my experience in several states in
the northeastern USA. Local garden centers have a very,
very poor selection of seeds and not particularly suited to
the area either.

To the O.P.: since you have (or someone else has, maybe)
included 'misc.survivalism', I will assume you want to keep
these seeds a long time for some survivalist purpose or
other.

If I wanted to do this, I'd buy non-hybrid garden seeds
dry-packed in cans for very long storage. For the grains,
you can just buy grains that are sold for people to eat:
also in cans or 5-gallon buckets, and nitrogen-packed,
suitable for long storage.

One place that carries such seeds and grains, packed in cans
is:

http://www.waltonfeed.com

This would be a good place for your initial purchase.

What you really want is to get a garden going. Then you can see in
practice what you're now asking in theory.
And the best way to keep seeds, long-term, is on a succession of live
plants.


Right. This is absolutely correct.

Pat

Seeds
 

old_codger wrote in message
...

I do a garden every year but it's just veggies, peppers and the like.
No grains.

There is a very good book about grains. 'Small Scale Grain Raising' by Gene
Logsdon that could give you a good insight into grain crops. And your
Agricultural Extension office as well. Almost all of their literature is
free. And their advice as well.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:38:25 -0400, North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.

Humm I didn't see the various News group names until I agreed to allow
posting to all of them, which I don't usually do.

misc.survivalism,rec.gardens,rec.food.preserving,r ec.gardens.edible

Janice


On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:34:07 -0400, North said:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?
What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.
What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)
Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Thanks for your help.


Old_Dodger,
I crossposted your question over to a couple of groups where the
experts on this subject hang out.

n.

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:18:14 -0500, George Shirley
wrote:

As long as you keep the seeds dry they will last a long time. I keep
mine in a plastic one gallon container in the fridge and have viable
seeds that are up to ten years old. You can even freeze them if you seal
them in a container, used to keep heirloom field pea seeds that way. I
keep all the seeds in the containers in paper envelopes, the smaller
batches in el cheapo coin envelopes, the rest in el cheapo small size
mailing envelopes. YMMV

George

yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

Janice

old_codger wrote:


North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.



Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:45 -0600, Janice
said:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:38:25 -0400, North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.

Humm I didn't see the various News group names until I agreed to allow
posting to all of them, which I don't usually do.

misc.survivalism,rec.gardens,rec.food.preserving, rec.gardens.edible

Janice

This was originally posted to misc.survivalism. I added the other
groups, The first time I tried to crosspost, the darn computer farted
before I was finished.

n.



On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:34:07 -0400, North said:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 14:05:03 GMT, old_codger said:

I want to stock up on seeds to keep in store in case needed but I have a
few questions.

How long do they keep?
What kinds of seeds to get for veriety in food source.
What king to get to make sure the crop also produces seeds so the supply
will be ongoing. (Non-hybrid?)
Where is a good source for the initial purchase?

Thanks for your help.


Old_Dodger,
I crossposted your question over to a couple of groups where the
experts on this subject hang out.

n.

Seeds
 

Janice wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:18:14 -0500, George Shirley
wrote:


As long as you keep the seeds dry they will last a long time. I keep
mine in a plastic one gallon container in the fridge and have viable
seeds that are up to ten years old. You can even freeze them if you seal
them in a container, used to keep heirloom field pea seeds that way. I
keep all the seeds in the containers in paper envelopes, the smaller
batches in el cheapo coin envelopes, the rest in el cheapo small size
mailing envelopes. YMMV

George


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

Janice

old_codger wrote:


North wrote:


Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.



Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.


We buy lettuce seed for less than a dime a package, leaf type, and I
have some that are two years old in the box. Planted some for spring and
got about 80% germination, which with lettuce seed is more than adequate.

George

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:27:28 -0500, George Shirley
wrote:

Janice wrote:
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 12:18:14 -0500, George Shirley
wrote:


As long as you keep the seeds dry they will last a long time. I keep
mine in a plastic one gallon container in the fridge and have viable
seeds that are up to ten years old. You can even freeze them if you seal
them in a container, used to keep heirloom field pea seeds that way. I
keep all the seeds in the containers in paper envelopes, the smaller
batches in el cheapo coin envelopes, the rest in el cheapo small size
mailing envelopes. YMMV

George


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

Janice

old_codger wrote:


North wrote:


Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.



Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.


We buy lettuce seed for less than a dime a package, leaf type, and I
have some that are two years old in the box. Planted some for spring and
got about 80% germination, which with lettuce seed is more than adequate.

George

Kewl, where do you get it so cheap?

I planted some I got from last year, won't grow. Never has grown for
me over a year old. No matter how I have stored 'em. *sigh*

Janice

Seeds
 

I save my own dill seeds and have successfully got them to germinate with 3yr.
old seeds
Sue in Mi. (zone 5)
Will Spring ever get here??????

Seeds
 

To save seeds over time, in the end you have to plant them and
collect the next seasons seeds. It's the only way with seeds that
aren't viable for long. I do a search on 'seedsavers' 'seed banks'
and see what comes up. There are groups around the world who do just
that to keep species alive.
And lo and behold, a nice .edu site :-)

http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/stse/handbook.htm
http://csf.colorado.edu/perma/stse/store.htm

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~merlyn/seedsaving.html

--
Cheers,
Loki [ Brevity is the soul of wit. W.Shakespeare ]

Seeds
 

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:46 -0600, Janice
wrote:


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

I don't know about parsnip and orach seeds' longevity, but I
routinely use lettuce seed that is several years old - it
has very good germination.

Pat

Seeds
 

Old_codger,
Our input would be if you are looking to start saving/storing seed for
fear of a time when seed stock for growing is no longer available we
would suggest a multi faceted approach of the other replies.
Buying off the shelf packets of seed at the end of the year for cheap
cheap is a great option for low cost however as has been somewhat stated
it can be a crap shoot. Some will save and some will not but in a
survival situation you arent going to be throwing a tantrum if your
leeks dont sprout. You will eat whatever comes up. So we would say go
ahead and build a library of seeds from the garden center and try to
rotate out all of the oldest every couple years with new. This way you
will always have, at the least, 2 years garden in your library. The
plants you grow from these packets may or may not be viable for saving
seed but they will at the least provide you with food to eat and
preserve. In our experience when we purchase lots of cheap packets at
the end of a season, each year that passes germination is reduced by 50
percent though there are exceptions in both directions. I wouldnt want
to even remotely rely on packets saved for several years for my food
supply though they are a great adjunct.
To start saving your own seed and building a never ending self
generated supply of seed you will want to start growing "open
pollinated" or "heirloom" plants in your garden. They are the same with
the only difference being that heirlooms are varieties which are at
least 50 years old. As was stated, many of the garden center varieties
you buy can be hybrids which means any one of a number of things can
happen when you save the seed from these plants. They may be sterile and
not germinate at all, you may get only one strain of the cross, they may
not produce fruit, or they may grow fine for a couple years and then
fizzle. Hence crapshoot.
Be forewarned however that certain seed can be pretty tough to save and
additionally some vegetables are biennials which makes saving seed
difficult in some climates.
That said, if you really want to insure that you will have viable seed
for growing it would be best to grow a season or two's worth of seed
every year. This way you have fresh seed for the next two years and
should be safe. Simple crops like tomatoes, squash, zucchini, cukes,
melons, many peppers, sunflowers, beets, are easy to save seed from with
the right procedure and a few fruit will provide you with LOTS of seed.
Lettuce and spinach are simple to save seed from as well. Other than new
varieties we grow our own lettuce, spinach, from saved seed every year.
All of the seed catalogs offer many open pollinated and heirloom
varieties additionally a google on "heirloom seeds" will find you many
suppliers of strictly heirloom seed. www.seedsavers.org is a good
resource as well as books like The New Seed Starters Handbook by Nancy
Bubel are good.

Good luck,
Mark

old_codger wrote:


North wrote:

Lets try this again :-)
Note the groups that were added.
n.



Ok, thanks north. I think Alan Connor posted something on this a
while ago but I can't seem to find it.
We'll see what the other groups can add.

Thanks.

Seeds
 

in article ,
at wrote on 13/4/04 6:02 am:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:46 -0600, Janice
wrote:


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

I don't know about parsnip and orach seeds' longevity, but I
routinely use lettuce seed that is several years old - it
has very good germination.

Pat
So what is orach? My ignorance always amazes me.
Ellen

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 09:02:32 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:46 -0600, Janice
wrote:


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

I don't know about parsnip and orach seeds' longevity, but I
routinely use lettuce seed that is several years old - it
has very good germination.

Pat

weird, never have any germinate from a previous season's seed .. must
just hate me. What kind of lettuce you use?

Janice

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:17:34 GMT, Ellen Wickberg
wrote:

in article ,
at wrote on 13/4/04 6:02 am:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:46 -0600, Janice
wrote:


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

I don't know about parsnip and orach seeds' longevity, but I
routinely use lettuce seed that is several years old - it
has very good germination.

Pat
So what is orach? My ignorance always amazes me.
Ellen


It's a hot weather spinach substitute, comes in green and red.
Another hot weather spinach substitute.. malabar spinach .. dunno what
the longevity of that seed is ;-)
links below.
Janice

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MV103
http://www.gardenguides.com/seedcata...chburgandy.htm
http://www.pizazz.com/plants/quiche.htm

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in article , Janice at
wrote on 13/4/04 6:52 pm:

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 16:17:34 GMT, Ellen Wickberg
wrote:

in article ,
at wrote on 13/4/04 6:02 am:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:38:46 -0600, Janice
wrote:


yup.... 'cept lettuce, parsnips, think orach seed doesn't keep either.
Usually they only last the season they're purchased for, no longer.
Maybe if there are way better storage facilities than most households,
you might get another year out of them, so you'd have to grow them out
each year and save new seed.

I don't know about parsnip and orach seeds' longevity, but I
routinely use lettuce seed that is several years old - it
has very good germination.

Pat
So what is orach? My ignorance always amazes me.
Ellen


It's a hot weather spinach substitute, comes in green and red.
Another hot weather spinach substitute.. malabar spinach .. dunno what
the longevity of that seed is ;-)
links below.
Janice

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/MV103
http://www.gardenguides.com/seedcata...chburgandy.htm
http://www.pizazz.com/plants/quiche.htm
Thanks you, Ellen