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Cicero_wnb 06-04-2004 08:52 PM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
This is the first time I attempt to grow plants from seeds.

I've noticed about half of the seedlings aren't growing very well.
More disturbingly, greenish spots have appeared on the soil. It makes
me think some fungus has taken hold. I went back to the books that
I've been reading and realized that after germination the temperature
should be lowered, which I didn't do. Also, I failed to provide
ventilation, something which is generally recommended. So have made
some changes already to correct these errors.

My question is whether the symptoms I've described should lead me to
throw away the affected plants, or should I wait in hopes for a better
outcome now that I've made some basic changes and as long as the
seedlings are still alive (which they are). I'd hate to "over-react"
by dicarding plants that are still salvageable.

I'll appreciate any advice. Thanks!

Phisherman 06-04-2004 08:53 PM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
On 4 Apr 2004 18:53:27 -0700, (Cicero_wnb)
wrote:

This is the first time I attempt to grow plants from seeds.

I've noticed about half of the seedlings aren't growing very well.
More disturbingly, greenish spots have appeared on the soil. It makes
me think some fungus has taken hold. I went back to the books that
I've been reading and realized that after germination the temperature
should be lowered, which I didn't do. Also, I failed to provide
ventilation, something which is generally recommended. So have made
some changes already to correct these errors.

My question is whether the symptoms I've described should lead me to
throw away the affected plants, or should I wait in hopes for a better
outcome now that I've made some basic changes and as long as the
seedlings are still alive (which they are). I'd hate to "over-react"
by dicarding plants that are still salvageable.

I'll appreciate any advice. Thanks!


It would be helpful to know what kind of seedlings you are growing,
and where you are attempting to grow them. If you are growing seeds
from a seed packet, follow the directions carefully. The condition
"damping off" is probably the biggest concern for growing most
seedlings. Air circulation and some brief morning sun generally
helps for many seedlings.

Salty Thumb 06-04-2004 08:53 PM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
(Cicero_wnb) wrote in
om:

This is the first time I attempt to grow plants from seeds.

I've noticed about half of the seedlings aren't growing very well.
More disturbingly, greenish spots have appeared on the soil. It makes
me think some fungus has taken hold. I went back to the books that
I've been reading and realized that after germination the temperature
should be lowered, which I didn't do. Also, I failed to provide
ventilation, something which is generally recommended. So have made
some changes already to correct these errors.

My question is whether the symptoms I've described should lead me to
throw away the affected plants, or should I wait in hopes for a better
outcome now that I've made some basic changes and as long as the
seedlings are still alive (which they are). I'd hate to "over-react"
by dicarding plants that are still salvageable.

I'll appreciate any advice. Thanks!


I don't think there are any fungi with chloroplasts. After shooting down
several probes, but missing the two latest, Martian Defense Command has
begun to their counterstrike efforts. The little green dots are actually
embryonic Martian "Coluoid" battle drones. In couple of weeks they will
grow to full size and begin slaughtering any earthlings they find. Or it
could just be algae.

Cicero_wnb 06-04-2004 08:55 PM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
You ask about which kinds of seedling. The answer is: all kinds.
Vegetables, herbs, flowers. A little of everything. We've provided
common conditions to all, without paying attention to packet
instructions (except for seed depth). But they seem to require similar
conditions, so even if we are off for this or that plant, if we are
doing things "about right" the results should be generally good. As I
said, we already discovered two glaring errors, both of which have
been corrected (temperature has been lowered, air ventilation has been
added).

We are growing the plants in our basement, with fluorescent lights.
That part seems to be working alright.

The plants where the green stuff is most widespread are the ones that,
generally speaking, show poorer growth. So it's not just that the
green stuff is unsightly, but it does seem to correlate (negatively)
with observed growth.

I've read about damping off. The only picture I've seen of this
problem showed plants that had totally collapsed (and no accompanying
green coloration, btw). Our plants may exhibit stunted growth, but
they are still standing.

I should note, too, that the veggies, which we planted in slightly
larger pots and less perlite in the potting mix, seem to be escaping
this problem and look pretty good. This may or may not help.

If I have to throw away the plants with the "green infestation",
that's alright. I won't be disheartened (I'm taking this as a learning
experience). But I just don't want to over-react and destroy plants
unless that's necessary.

The other bit of information I may add is I'm using fish emulsion as a
nutrient. Just following the instructions in the bottle for that. It's
pretty smelly stuff, but if plants like it, what the heck....

So, again, if anybody knows about greenish discolorations in
seedlings, please help! Perhaps I should add that the green color is
all in the soil, but especially on the perlite rocks, for some reason.


Phisherman wrote in message . ..
It would be helpful to know what kind of seedlings you are growing,
and where you are attempting to grow them. If you are growing seeds
from a seed packet, follow the directions carefully. The condition
"damping off" is probably the biggest concern for growing most
seedlings. Air circulation and some brief morning sun generally
helps for many seedlings.


Cicero_wnb 06-04-2004 08:55 PM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
You ask about which kinds of seedling. The answer is: all kinds.
Vegetables, herbs, flowers. A little of everything. We've provided
common conditions to all, without paying attention to packet
instructions (except for seed depth). But they seem to require similar
conditions, so even if we are off for this or that plant, if we are
doing things "about right" the results should be generally good. As I
said, we already discovered two glaring errors, both of which have
been corrected (temperature has been lowered, air ventilation has been
added).

We are growing the plants in our basement, with fluorescent lights.
That part seems to be working alright.

The plants where the green stuff is most widespread are the ones that,
generally speaking, show poorer growth. So it's not just that the
green stuff is unsightly, but it does seem to correlate (negatively)
with observed growth.

I've read about damping off. The only picture I've seen of this
problem showed plants that had totally collapsed (and no accompanying
green coloration, btw). Our plants may exhibit stunted growth, but
they are still standing.

I should note, too, that the veggies, which we planted in slightly
larger pots and less perlite in the potting mix, seem to be escaping
this problem and look pretty good. This may or may not help.

If I have to throw away the plants with the "green infestation",
that's alright. I won't be disheartened (I'm taking this as a learning
experience). But I just don't want to over-react and destroy plants
unless that's necessary.

The other bit of information I may add is I'm using fish emulsion as a
nutrient. Just following the instructions in the bottle for that. It's
pretty smelly stuff, but if plants like it, what the heck....

So, again, if anybody knows about greenish discolorations in
seedlings, please help! Perhaps I should add that the green color is
all in the soil, but especially on the perlite rocks, for some reason.


Phisherman wrote in message . ..
It would be helpful to know what kind of seedlings you are growing,
and where you are attempting to grow them. If you are growing seeds
from a seed packet, follow the directions carefully. The condition
"damping off" is probably the biggest concern for growing most
seedlings. Air circulation and some brief morning sun generally
helps for many seedlings.


B & J 12-04-2004 11:02 AM

seedlings grow poorly, many greenish spots. What to do?
 
"Salty Thumb" wrote in message
...
This is the first time I attempt to grow plants from seeds.

I've noticed about half of the seedlings aren't growing very well.
More disturbingly, greenish spots have appeared on the soil. It makes
me think some fungus has taken hold. snip
I'll appreciate any advice. Thanks!


I don't think there are any fungi with chloroplasts. After shooting down
several probes, but missing the two latest, Martian Defense Command has
begun to their counterstrike efforts. The little green dots are actually
embryonic Martian "Coluoid" battle drones. In couple of weeks they will
grow to full size and begin slaughtering any earthlings they find. Or it
could just be algae.


I like your Martian battle drones, but I don't think they have landed yet.
More likely the green spots arose from the peat that is often incorporated
into many potting soils. Moss often grows in pots where peat is part of the
mixture, particularly if placed are in a warm, moist, low light area. I've
had it grow in pots of plants I've started, but it doesn't seems to affect
growth.

There has to be something else affecting growth. My suggestion is to provide
more light and ventilation, and there certainly is no reason to throw out
the salvageable plants. Most seedlings survive a lot of abuse. :)

John




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