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Old 26-04-2004, 05:04 AM
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message
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(snip)

As a recent chastiser, I feel obliged to correct any mistaken
impression by other posters that you might be referring to myself. I
have never done anything to deserve the repulsive insult of being
considered your friend.

(snip)

While some might take the above as evidence of being "hateful, angry and
spiteful", I prefer to think it is more in the category of being nasty,
resentful
and vindictive. Fear not! Those of us who are coming to know you would
never confuse you with being escapee's friend. However, we might wonder
if the person who could say that has any friends at all.

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Old 27-04-2004, 01:02 AM
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:16:59 -0400, "eclectic"
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"Janet Baraclough.." wrote in message
.. .

(snip)

As a recent chastiser, I feel obliged to correct any mistaken
impression by other posters that you might be referring to myself. I
have never done anything to deserve the repulsive insult of being
considered your friend.

(snip)

While some might take the above as evidence of being "hateful, angry and
spiteful", I prefer to think it is more in the category of being nasty,
resentful
and vindictive. Fear not! Those of us who are coming to know you would
never confuse you with being escapee's friend. However, we might wonder
if the person who could say that has any friends at all.


I have about 5 friends in my life. My husband is one, two queers up in New
York (said lovingly as a typical fag hag) my mother (big pain in the ass she is
but I adore her anyway) and my childhood friend JBird, a guy with whom I did
everything but had sex with.

I have come to learn the friendships online are nothing more than bullshit and
only when they agree with you are they your friend. I sit back and watch many
of these peoples' lives and I rarely wonder why their life is in the shitter.
Very nasty, resentful, and vindictive, but I'd also like to add extreme envy to
that list.

That said, I'm really bored with this newsgroup. After all is said and done,
the most interesting people here are actually paghat, cereoid, Tom J., Tom Kan
Pa and Maddy. Everyone else...bleh
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Old 27-04-2004, 07:02 AM
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"escapee" wrote in message
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(snip)

I have about 5 friends in my life. My husband is one, two queers up in New
York (said lovingly as a typical fag hag) my mother (big pain in the ass she

is
but I adore her anyway) and my childhood friend JBird, a guy with whom I did
everything but had sex with.

I have come to learn the friendships online are nothing more than bullshit

(snip)

Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for
friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to
be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your
advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people.

Regards.

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Old 27-04-2004, 03:02 PM
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:49:06 -0400, "eclectic"
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Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for
friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to
be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your
advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people.

Regards.


I can see that, but it gets very tiring and I've a good life full of wonderful
events and people. I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed
with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with
the whole woe is me, everyone sucks and is always wrong, and I'm very tired of
people on their high horse who have nothing in their life but their anger and
coldness. I find it very hard to have compassion for people like this. One day
they love you, next day, BAM. So, as a growing person, I can clearly see who is
and who is not a big, fat phony and I will ignore them because I know misery
loves company and I'm not miserable.
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Old 27-04-2004, 06:05 PM
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"escapee" wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 23:49:06 -0400, "eclectic"


opined:

Well, yes. Online friendly people can easily be mistaken for
friends. Even between friends there is a certain amount of BS which has to
be forgiven and forgotten. More people than you know do appreciate your
advice and opinion even if it runs contrary to contrary people.

Regards.


I can see that, but it gets very tiring and I've a good life full of wonderful
events and people. I think what happened with the original post I'm annoyed
with is that this person was supposed to be a "friend." Not. I'm bored with
the whole woe is me, everyone sucks and is always wrong, and I'm very tired of
people on their high horse who have nothing in their life but their anger and
coldness. I find it very hard to have compassion for people like this. One
day they love you, next day, BAM. So, as a growing person, I can clearly see
who is and who is not a big, fat phony and I will ignore them because I know
misery loves company and I'm not miserable.


I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name
it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post
dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the
posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time
to respond.

By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves
chocolate. :^)

Regards.



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Old 27-04-2004, 07:03 PM
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escapee wrote in
:

I think what happened with the original
post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a
"friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks


If this is what you are talking about, I think you are overreacting or
taking things too personally:

PGG I am constantly amazed at the amount of misinformation that gets
PGG disseminated through this group.

You provided some questionable information and she called you on it.
Without any gratuitous remarks or Cereoidal comedy hour jabs. One
sentence. That's all. It hardly counts as an attack or even as being
chastised. To expect an apology for that is ridiculous. You certainly
didn't apologize for giving the group wrong information (although you did
admit it was a mistake) nor have you apologized for categorizing the
majority of the people frequenting the newsgroup, including those who
haven't said anything positive or negative about you, as 'bleh'.

While we are on the subject of misinformation, I doubt anyone considers
the Middle East the prime source of heroin in the world. You could argue
that Afghanistan is either in the "Middle East" or "Central Asia", but as
the only source of poppies or heroin of note from either of those
regions, you might as well just say Afghanistan, which has to compete
with Burma (clearly not in the Middle East) for at least opium bragging
rights.

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Old 27-04-2004, 10:02 PM
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:28:06 -0400, "eclectic"
opined:

I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name
it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post
dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the
posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time
to respond.

By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves
chocolate. :^)

Regards.


That's it! I just gave up chocolate! I wish

Anyway, I'm about done with Usenet. It's been boring for a long time and I have
met people and have true delight in my life. I am very fortunate and I give
thanks on a moment by moment basis for all I have and give to others.

So, I will probably stop posting on any regular basis. I used to come here more
for the people. Now the people are sucking too...sans the few I named who,
whether or not I agree with them, have come to like them...yes, including
paghat. She and I can get a bit harsh with each other, but she always wins!

Victoria
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 11:28:06 -0400, "eclectic"


opined:

I expect people to be disappointing at times, (behaviour, attitude, you name
it) but it's hard to understand the malevolence of those who knowingly post
dangerous advice to newbies. That is truly saddening. Fortunately, the
posters here are usually knowledgeable and generous in giving their time
to respond.

By the way, in my experience misery doesn't love company. It loves
chocolate. :^)

Regards.


That's it! I just gave up chocolate! I wish

Anyway, I'm about done with Usenet. It's been boring for a long time

and I have
met people and have true delight in my life. I am very fortunate and I give
thanks on a moment by moment basis for all I have and give to others.

So, I will probably stop posting on any regular basis. I used to come

here more
for the people. Now the people are sucking too...sans the few I named who,
whether or not I agree with them, have come to like them...yes, including
paghat. She and I can get a bit harsh with each other, but she always wins!

Victoria


You should take more of an attitude of it being a rowdy town square where
people are apt from time to time to wack each other in the faces with a
bouquets of pansies, & a challenge to duel with fernbrake at twenty paces.
Compared to the majority of UseNet locations, that's pretty darned
harmless, & the rest of the pansy-armed firebrands often have useful ideas
& observations & information to share.

You've admitted to liking a few of the obnoxious or semi-obnoxioius
posters, so it would seem it only gets on your nerves when someone turns
their obnoxiousness in your direction. If that's the case, then just take
a what-does-their-opinion-matter attitude, OR judge if it would be more
amusing if it were aimed at someone else, & if it would've been, then it's
all right. If someone says "You're a big dumb poopy breath" instead of
getting your feelings hurt, assess whether it was childish, satiric,
comical, or just stupid. Then either shrug it off as of no real
consequence OR post the reply, "Well YOU have poopy breath too PLUS you
have yellow matter custard dripping from your dead-dog eyes."

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl:
http://www.paghat.com/
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Old 01-05-2004, 11:02 AM
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Sorry, it was more than a little two sentence thing. I apologize if I indeed
gave misinformation. I'm human and I have always said so whenever I've been
wrong. Always. In this case, this person yes, is indeed nasty in this case.
It was completely uncalled for. Friends don't say what she said. I am now
dropping it because I couldn't care less...frankly.

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 16:16:05 GMT, Salty Thumb
opined:

escapee wrote in
:

I think what happened with the original
post I'm annoyed with is that this person was supposed to be a
"friend." Not. I'm bored with the whole woe is me, everyone sucks


If this is what you are talking about, I think you are overreacting or
taking things too personally:

PGG I am constantly amazed at the amount of misinformation that gets
PGG disseminated through this group.

You provided some questionable information and she called you on it.
Without any gratuitous remarks or Cereoidal comedy hour jabs. One
sentence. That's all. It hardly counts as an attack or even as being
chastised. To expect an apology for that is ridiculous. You certainly
didn't apologize for giving the group wrong information (although you did
admit it was a mistake) nor have you apologized for categorizing the
majority of the people frequenting the newsgroup, including those who
haven't said anything positive or negative about you, as 'bleh'.

While we are on the subject of misinformation, I doubt anyone considers
the Middle East the prime source of heroin in the world. You could argue
that Afghanistan is either in the "Middle East" or "Central Asia", but as
the only source of poppies or heroin of note from either of those
regions, you might as well just say Afghanistan, which has to compete
with Burma (clearly not in the Middle East) for at least opium bragging
rights.

Your message:
Message-ID:

Breaking Heroin Sources of Supply: (last updated 2002)
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/...nal/factsht/he
roin.html


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