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Old 11-05-2004, 03:02 PM
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They do what they're told to do, they pick up what they're allowed to pick
up.


When I caught a possum in a county supplied trap, the animal control folks
said that they would come out and kill it and take the dead body. They
would not accept a trap with a live wild critter. (They supplied the traps
to capture CATS.)

So I told them to kill the animal. I was gone when they came but the
critter was gone and there was some sticky blood left on the trap.


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Old 11-05-2004, 03:06 PM
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"Ann" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 16:56:07 +0000, Doug Kanter wrote:

"Ann" wrote in message
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What about keeping a dog in the
fenced area at night?


No! Bad idea! The dog will dig in the garden or crap all over it. Bad,
bad, bad.


Not if the dog is trained. When I lived in the city, where most houses
had postage-stamp back yards, the majority had at least a couple tomato
plants AND a dog.

Grrrr.....dogs.....the only good thing about them is that most of them are
dumb enough to stand still while you tape a pistol target to their
midsections.
Sincerely,
Dog Curmudgeon


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Old 11-05-2004, 03:07 PM
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I would not use an electric fence with a 3 year old kid in the house.


Given that the racoons are nocturnal you would only need to turn the
fence on at night when presumably your 3yr old would be inside.


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Old 11-05-2004, 03:10 PM
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"Anthony Aversano" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 17:25:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"


wrote:

"Ignoramus15189" wrote in message
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In article , Doug Kanter wrote:
"Ignoramus15189" wrote in

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forgot to say, trapping and releasing raccoons would be educational
for my 3 year old son.

Is it an ego thing, or is there some other reason you don't want to

enlist
your local animal control people?

I hate spending money on various contractors. Hiring contractors is an
unbelievable waste of time and money.


Are we on the same planet? I'm referring to your TOWN'S animal control
department. I've never heard of those people charging a citizen for

removing
an animal.


Where I live (a little north of Seattle, Washington) you have to pay for

this
service unless you can show they are injured or diseased. I had a family

of 4
destroying my ponds last year and was told to either live with it or pay

the
cities subcontractor $300 to remove them. And keep paying about $75 per

animal
after that as new ones arrived to fill the created void.

Tony


Yikes. Things have gotten out of hand in the big cities.


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"Nick Hull" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Doug Kanter" wrote:

A Havahart trap is a good idea, too, but you might want to have your

local
animal control people assist. Raccoons can get weird....


EZ way to get rid of the coon is to take it (in the trap!) to your local
coon dog hunter. It'll help train his dogs to coons.


I'm admittedly not fully awake yet, but I can't seen to find "coon dog
hunter" in the yellow pages. Maybe under hobbies.....no. Furs?




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Old 11-05-2004, 03:11 PM
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Also be sure to carefully check your local hunting regulations. Many
places, including MA, have an "exemption" to the hunting season rules
that give property owners the right to destroy wildlife in the act of
causing damage or threatening personal safety.


That's interesting. Our town justice used to be my son's baseball coach, so
we had lots of time to shoot the breeze. Once, I was having serious problems
with a couple of dogs destroying vegetable plants (digging within the
garden). The judge told me that as long as I did not violate firearms laws,
it was legal to "reeducate" (i.e.: kill) such dogs. A couple of people who
are not in a position to know these things argued with me about this, and
asked me to confirm it. I was unable to find this in our town's statutes.
Perhaps it's a NY state statute. I believe what the judge told me, but
still....it's interesting to know where these things are written, for both
practical AND historical reasons.


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Old 11-05-2004, 04:02 PM
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In article , Russell wrote:
Ignoramus15189 wrote:


Shooting them is not an option due to our city code.


Flippin' governments. Take the fun out of everything. ;-)


yep, I was thinking about setting up a sniper nest in my master
bedroom bathroom, but my hopes were dashed. I have a "security
light"that comes on when raccoons visit, so that shooting at them at
night would be quite easy. But, I do not want to have gun violations
on my record.

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Old 11-05-2004, 04:04 PM
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I have a new thought. They used to make fur coats out of raccoons, and
hats. We could make a Russian style winter fur hat for my son, for
example.

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Old 11-05-2004, 04:04 PM
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In article , rot13 wrote:
Ignoramus15189 pontificated wisely
that:

In article , The Rock Garden wrote:
"Ignoramus15189" wrote

forgot to say, trapping and releasing raccoons would be educational
for my 3 year old son.


Maybe not in the way you intended. First of all check out your state and
local regulations, it may be illegal to trap and release game animals.
Second, even if it is legal, you are merely transferring your problem to
another area for someone else to deal with, and can very well also transfer
diseases such as parvo, rabies and scabies along with the coon. Third, in
the long run it won't even matter 'cause a new population will move in to
take over the void left by removing the current residents.

There are many (well, several anyway) ways to fence coons out of a garden;
probably an electric offset wire around the bottom of the perimeter would be
both the most animal and cost effective.

Check out both the web site and order their excellent fencing catalog for
ideas.

http://www.premier1supplies.com/store/fencing.html


I would not use an electric fence with a 3 year old kid in the house.


Given that the racoons are nocturnal you would only need to turn the
fence on at night when presumably your 3yr old would be inside.


I can second the recommendation for Premier. Their customer reps are
very helpful and knowledgable. I called when I was setting up fencing
for our goats planning on getting a fancy combination of electric twine,
HT wire, fiberglass line posts, metal corner t-posts and a solar-battery
energizer. After asking what I wanted the fencing for their rep
suggested electric netting, some plastic corner posts and an energizer
with 9v alkaline battery. Saved me a bunch of money and I've been very
happy with the system.
Kevin Miller
(rot13)
http://www.net1plus.com/users/miller9


You see, my spouse would never agree to it no matter what physics
based explanations I offer.

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"Ignoramus27199" wrote in message
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I can second the recommendation for Premier. Their customer reps are
very helpful and knowledgable. I called when I was setting up fencing
for our goats planning on getting a fancy combination of electric twine,
HT wire, fiberglass line posts, metal corner t-posts and a solar-battery
energizer. After asking what I wanted the fencing for their rep
suggested electric netting, some plastic corner posts and an energizer
with 9v alkaline battery. Saved me a bunch of money and I've been very
happy with the system.
Kevin Miller
(rot13)
http://www.net1plus.com/users/miller9


You see, my spouse would never agree to it no matter what physics
based explanations I offer.


Although I know the electric fence would not be a problem, your wife's
opinion is understandable. The mother bear instinct is cool. I only wish
human mothers would behave like bear mothers right down to the gory details.
That would take care of SO many "people who should be eliminated", keeping
George Carlin's criteria in mind as I say that. Based on these criteria, I
can recall at least 3 idiots who would've had their faces & throats removed
by my wife, when she felt our son was endangered. Sigh....sadly, she's a
Unitarian. Too peaceful.




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"Ignoramus27199" wrote in message
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In article , Russell wrote:
Ignoramus15189 wrote:


Shooting them is not an option due to our city code.


Flippin' governments. Take the fun out of everything. ;-)


yep, I was thinking about setting up a sniper nest in my master
bedroom bathroom, but my hopes were dashed. I have a "security
light"that comes on when raccoons visit, so that shooting at them at
night would be quite easy. But, I do not want to have gun violations
on my record.


I know just one person who is so accurate with a slingshot that I wonder
sometimes if what I'm watching was digitally altered. Years of practice, I
guess.

www.slingshots.com


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Old 11-05-2004, 06:02 PM
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On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:20:45 -0700, Adam Russell wrote:

No, there's a difference. A static charge of 1000v will (in most cases)
dissipate so quick you barely hear the snap, where 1000v ac or dc will kill
you more than likely.


Static electricity _is_ DC. The power in lightning will be higher than
you get from rubbing your feet on the rug, because the current is higher,
but the voltage may very well be the same. It's all about joules (power over
time).

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In article , Doug Kanter wrote:
"Ignoramus27199" wrote in message
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In article , Russell wrote:
Ignoramus15189 wrote:


Shooting them is not an option due to our city code.

Flippin' governments. Take the fun out of everything. ;-)


yep, I was thinking about setting up a sniper nest in my master
bedroom bathroom, but my hopes were dashed. I have a "security
light"that comes on when raccoons visit, so that shooting at them at
night would be quite easy. But, I do not want to have gun violations
on my record.


I know just one person who is so accurate with a slingshot that I wonder
sometimes if what I'm watching was digitally altered. Years of practice, I
guess.

www.slingshots.com



Hm, I would like to make my own slingshot. Where could Ibuy good
rubber for it?
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"Ignoramus27199" wrote in message
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In article , Doug Kanter wrote:
"Ignoramus27199" wrote in message
...
In article , Russell wrote:
Ignoramus15189 wrote:


Shooting them is not an option due to our city code.

Flippin' governments. Take the fun out of everything. ;-)

yep, I was thinking about setting up a sniper nest in my master
bedroom bathroom, but my hopes were dashed. I have a "security
light"that comes on when raccoons visit, so that shooting at them at
night would be quite easy. But, I do not want to have gun violations
on my record.


I know just one person who is so accurate with a slingshot that I wonder
sometimes if what I'm watching was digitally altered. Years of practice,

I
guess.

www.slingshots.com



Hm, I would like to make my own slingshot. Where could Ibuy good
rubber for it?


Oh for cryin' out loud....the top of the line model at that web site is
thirty bucks and it has fiber optic sites. Live a little. Spend the money.
But, the site also sells just the rubber bands, if you insist on being a
shnorer.


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