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Tom Jaszewski X-No-Archive: yes wrote: Like billbo is a shill? Oh, good. The crazies are coming out of the woodwork. My favorite anti-science netstalker returns. Still peddling hysteria for personal gain, Tom? Take your your sock puppets, your aliases, and your multiple personalities and stalk someone else for awhile. billo |
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Will wrote: On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 01:20:37 -0000, I found this from (Bill Oliver) : And that's Dr. Oliver, to you. Who did you say you wrked for? I didn't. Not only is it irrelevant, but my opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer, or any official, Office, Agency or similar entity. billo |
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Janet Baraclough.. wrote: The message from (Bill Oliver) contains these words: In fact, a 1996 estimate is a good place to start, since the risk has gone down since then. The risk of eating BSE-infected beef in Britain, has gone down since then. That is not the same as saying, that the incidence of nv CJD infection will decrease, because a) virtually all the meat-eating population of the UK was exposed to BSE for at least a decade and B) we still don't know the incubation period, or what other factors activate a dormant infection. Here's a homework assignment for you. There is good evidence to believe that most people (who are not Japanese) are simply immune to vCJD. *One hundred percent* of people who have acquired vCJD have one specific thing in common, which is found in only 37% of Caucasians (and, alas, in 95% of Japanese). What is it? How does that fit into your calculations of risk? billo |
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BLAH BLAH BLAH .... Ignore the freaking ideologue. Oh, excuse me! That's "Dr. Freaking Ideologue." Hmmm .... gotta be an aging "M.D." ;-) For those who are interested in a SCIENTIFIC review of the state of prion SCIENCE and its attendant issues in the U.S., here's a link to the most recent Institute of Medicine (part of the Nat'l Academies of Science) report, "Advancing Prion Science: Guidance for the National Prion Research Program (2004)" http://www.nap.edu/books/0309090601/html/ Here's a direct link to Chapter 5, "Testing Blood for Evidence of Agents of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies" (pp 108 - 124) http://books.nap.edu/books/030909060...8.html#pagetop |
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Ermalina wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH .... Ignore the freaking ideologue. http://books.nap.edu/books/030909060...8.html#pagetop And, interestingly enough, not one single statement in it contradicts anything I have written, though it *does* contradict much of what you have claimed -- including your ludicrous doubly false claim that studies involving CJD are irrelevant because vCJD is not related. It notes that not one case of transmission of CJD by blood has been validated. It notes that there has not been an increase in CJD cases in the face of increasing use of blood products. It notes that case controlled studies have failed to show a connection between blood transfusion and CJD. Note particularly the table on page 113. Note the lookback studies on page 114, as well as the studies on what one would expect to be high risk patients such as hemophiliacs (again page 114). Perhaps you should read these things before you refer to them. You wouldn't look so silly. Indeed. Ignore the freaking ideologue. The one running around claiming the sky is falling. billo |
Bone/ Blood Meal and Mad Cow Disease
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wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH .... Ignore the freaking ideologue. Oh, excuse me! That's "Dr. Freaking Ideologue." Hmmm .... gotta be an aging "M.D." ;-) Actually he cuts up dead bodies to pay the rent, has never conveyed much knowledge of the living. If he seems a little crazy at times, just THINK about a career spent carving up the dead for crine out loud. The "doctors" who didn't follow that career path on purpose for reasons of necrophilia, but were stuck with it because of their general incompetence at health care for the still-breathing, have just GOT to lose their minds eventually. -paghat the ratgirl For those who are interested in a SCIENTIFIC review of the state of prion SCIENCE and its attendant issues in the U.S., here's a link to the most recent Institute of Medicine (part of the Nat'l Academies of Science) report, "Advancing Prion Science: Guidance for the National Prion Research Program (2004)" http://www.nap.edu/books/0309090601/html/ Here's a direct link to Chapter 5, "Testing Blood for Evidence of Agents of Transmissible Spongiform Encephalopathies" (pp 108 - 124) http://books.nap.edu/books/030909060...8.html#pagetop -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
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paghat wrote: In article , Ermalina wrote: Bill Oliver wrote: BLAH BLAH BLAH .... Ignore the freaking ideologue. Oh, excuse me! That's "Dr. Freaking Ideologue." Hmmm .... gotta be an aging "M.D." ;-) Actually he cuts up dead bodies to pay the rent, has never conveyed much knowledge of the living. If he seems a little crazy at times, just THINK about a career spent carving up the dead for crine out loud. The "doctors" who didn't follow that career path on purpose for reasons of necrophilia, but were stuck with it because of their general incompetence at health care for the still-breathing, have just GOT to lose their minds eventually. -paghat the ratgirl It is amusing to watch people when they run out of facts and have to rely on personal attack and casting aspersions on entire professions to support their ignorant biases. billo |
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Tom Jaszewski X-No-Archive: yes wrote: [old, old post of mine to another group deleted] It's nice to know that people spend hours and hours reading through my old posts from years ago. And it's good to know that what I write holds up over time. But really, Tom, pull up your pants and wash your hands. You really shouldn't be doing that kind of thing in public. Your obsession is flattering in some ways, but you really are getting kinda creepy. billo |
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paghat wrote: In article , (Bill Oliver) wrote: In article , Tom Jaszewski X-No-Archive: yes wrote: [old, old post of mine to another group deleted] It's nice to know that people spend hours and hours reading through my old posts from years ago. And it's good to know that what I write holds up over time. But really, Tom, pull up your pants and wash your hands. You really shouldn't be doing that kind of thing in public. Your obsession is flattering in some ways, but you really are getting kinda creepy. billo Gad damn what a fatuous little troll you inevitably make of yourself. Uh huh. As opposed to people like you an Tommy, who follow posters around doing nothing but personal attacks? You and your obsessive little buddy go stalk someone else. billo |
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Oliver) wrote: In article , paghat wrote: In article , (Bill Oliver) wrote: In article , Tom Jaszewski X-No-Archive: yes wrote: [old, old post of mine to another group deleted] It's nice to know that people spend hours and hours reading through my old posts from years ago. And it's good to know that what I write holds up over time. But really, Tom, pull up your pants and wash your hands. You really shouldn't be doing that kind of thing in public. Your obsession is flattering in some ways, but you really are getting kinda creepy. billo Gad damn what a fatuous little troll you inevitably make of yourself. Uh huh. As opposed to people like you an Tommy, who follow posters around doing nothing but personal attacks? You and your obsessive little buddy go stalk someone else. billo I'm assuming your show of a deep & profound paranoia is a put-on & you're not actually as severely mentally ill as you continuously portray yourself. I still view you as purely & exclusively "Trolly trolly trolly," though obviously a certifiable fruitcake might occasionally be mistaken for a mere troll. If you DO believe this kind of I'm Being Netstalked crap, my sincere condolences to your family, who must suffer daily due to such fantastical delusions of persecution -- for as an authentic paranoid you would not restrict your weird beliefs to just the one lunatic conviction you're being stalked whenever your usual trolly antics gain you no more or less than is entirely merited. -paghat the ratgirl -- "Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher. "Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature. -from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers" Visit the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com |
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paghat wrote: In article , (Bill I'm assuming your show of a deep & profound paranoia is a put-on & you're not actually as severely mentally ill as you continuously portray yourself. I still view you as purely & exclusively "Trolly trolly trolly," I'll tell you what, paghat, instead of obsessing with chasing me around newsgroups in order to insult me, why don't you try addressing the issue. Show us your knowledge and insight into the subject. I have challenged the hysterics to find a fact about vCJD. Let's see if you are up to the task. There's something that *all* victims of vCJD have in common that only about 37% of Caucasians have in common. What is that thing, and how does it fit into your risk calculation? Or, you can continue to obsess about my posts and continue to follow me around from thread to thread and newsgroup to newsgroup. Your choice, of course. billo |
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paghat wrote: In article , (Bill I'm assuming your show of a deep & profound paranoia is a put-on & you're not actually as severely mentally ill as you continuously portray yourself. I still view you as purely & exclusively "Trolly trolly trolly," I'll tell you what, paghat, instead of obsessing with chasing me around newsgroups in order to insult me, why don't you try addressing the issue. Show us your knowledge and insight into the subject. I have challenged the hysterics to find a fact about vCJD. Let's see if you are up to the task. There's something that *all* victims of vCJD have in common that only about 37% of Caucasians have in common. What is that thing, and how does it fit into your risk calculation? Or, you can continue to obsess about my posts and continue to follow me around from thread to thread and newsgroup to newsgroup. Your choice, of course. billo |
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