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Red '57 12-06-2004 08:02 PM

Invasive IDs
 
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874743dzCewd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874919SQKRSe


Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb




The rest of my backyard potted plants:

http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL
http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL/1


thanks,

jim

Cereus-validus 12-06-2004 09:04 PM

Invasive IDs
 
Yep, you have weeds. Welcome to the club.

It is difficult to ID the plants without flowers.

The purple Violets are an especially difficult group to ID, even with
flowers.


"Red '57" wrote in message
...
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874743dzCewd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874919SQKRSe


Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb




The rest of my backyard potted plants:

http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL
http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL/1


thanks,

jim




Vox Humana 12-06-2004 10:03 PM

Invasive IDs
 

"Red '57" wrote in message
...
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.


Have you tried painting the leaves with RoundUp concentrate?



Red '57 12-06-2004 10:05 PM

Invasive IDs
 
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:37:16 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

Yep, you have weeds. Welcome to the club.

It is difficult to ID the plants without flowers.



The purple Violets are an especially difficult group to ID, even with
flowers.


You must be clairvoyant to know they have purple flowers ;-)


jim

Bob S. 13-06-2004 03:03 AM

Invasive IDs
 
Red '57 wrote in message . ..
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874743dzCewd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874919SQKRSe


Yup, that's wild violets. They spread by seed and by root and are hard
to get rid of. Best control I found is products containing 2-4-D (Like
weed-b-gon).
A lot of persistance is needed to eliminate them.

Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb


A little hard to tell on this one. If it has a small white flower, it
could be button weed. If it has deep pink flowers it could be
knotweed (aka smartweed).
It spreads by tiny seed. Again, a 2-4-D product would be your best
bet to control it.

Bob S.

xplorer 13-06-2004 03:03 AM

Invasive IDs
 
Red '57 wrote in message . ..
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874743dzCewd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874919SQKRSe


Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb




The rest of my backyard potted plants:

http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL
http://community.webshots.com/album/142226966meBDZL/1


thanks,

jim



The first weed looks like Gotu Kola (Centella asiatica). It is a
well-known herb but it is really invasive, sending lots of runners. I
successfully eradicated it from my Arachis pintoi lawn by manual
weeding!

The second one looks like a member of the grass family. The local
agriculture bureau could probably ID it.

Cereus-validus 13-06-2004 03:03 AM

Invasive IDs
 
Oops, my secret slipped out.

You mean everyone isn't capable of psychic plant identification?

It turns out that most of the white or yellow flowered violets in the
southeastern US have elongate leafy stems.

I didn't even say whether that the second plant is a Commelina or Murdannia
species.


"Red '57" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 19:37:16 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

Yep, you have weeds. Welcome to the club.

It is difficult to ID the plants without flowers.



The purple Violets are an especially difficult group to ID, even with
flowers.


You must be clairvoyant to know they have purple flowers ;-)


jim




JMagerl 13-06-2004 07:03 AM

Invasive IDs
 
I too find that 2,4,D is good for killing wild violets with a few
disclaimers:
1) Timing is everything in trying to get rid of violets. Spring is best.
Fall is second best. Don't waste your chemicals in the summer.
2) 2 doses may be needed.
3) Weed-b-gon has slowly reduced the amount of 2,4,D in it. LAst time I
looked it no longer said it killed violets. There are several other products
with higher 2,4,D levels and work better at killing violets (spectricide,
Trimec come to mind). Look for a 2,4,D level in the 5 to 7% region.
4) you might try something with triclopar in it (I may have spelled that
wrong). A.K.A. Brush-b-
gon

"Bob S." wrote in message
om...
Red '57 wrote in message

. ..
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

I have a particularly nasty form of violet that followed me home after
I got a plant from a friend. It is a violet, often called culvert
kudzu and I would like to eradicate it. It does not respond well to
Roundup and I really don't like to use that much of it. If it is dug
up and any is left in the ground , it spreads faster.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874743dzCewd
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874919SQKRSe


Yup, that's wild violets. They spread by seed and by root and are hard
to get rid of. Best control I found is products containing 2-4-D (Like
weed-b-gon).
A lot of persistance is needed to eliminate them.

Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb


A little hard to tell on this one. If it has a small white flower, it
could be button weed. If it has deep pink flowers it could be
knotweed (aka smartweed).
It spreads by tiny seed. Again, a 2-4-D product would be your best
bet to control it.

Bob S.




Bob S. 13-06-2004 08:02 PM

Invasive IDs
 
"JMagerl" wrote in message ...
I too find that 2,4,D is good for killing wild violets with a few
disclaimers:
1) Timing is everything in trying to get rid of violets. Spring is best.
Fall is second best. Don't waste your chemicals in the summer.
2) 2 doses may be needed.
3) Weed-b-gon has slowly reduced the amount of 2,4,D in it. LAst time I
looked it no longer said it killed violets. There are several other products
with higher 2,4,D levels and work better at killing violets (spectricide,
Trimec come to mind). Look for a 2,4,D level in the 5 to 7% region.
4) you might try something with triclopar in it (I may have spelled that
wrong). A.K.A. Brush-b-gon


Right. Or if you plan on using a lot of it, you can get the
agricultural strength which is around 45%. I believe one product is
called Remedy, comes by the gallon, and costs in the neighborhood of
$150. Seems like a lot of money, but figured by gallon of mixed
solution is a much better buy.

Bob S.

Kathy Bilton 27-06-2004 08:02 PM

Invasive IDs
 
Red '57 wrote in message . ..
Well it's that time of year and all my favorite "plants" have
reappeared in my yard. I live just north of Atlanta ( 7b ) and would
like to ask for some assistance from the group.

Here is another plant that is not too bad, but is spreads very fast. I
had never seen it until last year and that was 100 yards away from my
house. Seems to be a shade lover.

Here are two examples:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874461piEaui
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51874579svJatb



It looks to me like what you've got is Microstegium vimineum - Asiatic
stiltgrass. What makes me think that is what it is is the line of
white down the center of the leaves. I've heard that it's the invasive
of most concern to managers of mid-Altantic forest areas. See:
http://www.nps.gov/plants/alien/fact/mivi1.htm

--Kathy Bilton
http://www.fred.net/kathy


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