On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:17:47 GMT, "Vox Humana" opined:


I do the same thing with Sirius. You can listen to Sirius OutQ online
without a subscription. www.siriusoutq.com
They ask for an email address and zip code, but fake ones work just fine.
You might be very interested in the show that runs from 2:00 to 6:00 pm
Eastern time. With a subscription, you can listen to all the music streams
online with a password. Our receiver is in one of the cars. You can often
get deals on radios. You can get a radio for $49.00 at this link:
http://www.sirius.com/servlet/Conten...=1077744929995


Thanks for the link. I'll look into it.
v


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On 23 Jun 2004 16:31:53 -0700, (D Ray) opined:


You should get yourself more informed. Clear Channel has hedged their
entire position and have been trying to get out of XM for more than a
year now. They no longer have a board member.

It doesn't matter, however. XM was never a strategic partner for CCU;
and CCU has had zero influence on the programming. XM's music is far
superior to Sirius', and EITHER is far superior (as in multiple orders
of magnitude) to anything you'll find on FM.

It is sort of bizarre to proclaim your opposition to a product on the
basis of who the company's shareholders are. While you can boycott
for whatever reasons, you do so at your own disadvantage.

I don't care much about the music on satellite. Between my husband and I, we
have about a thousand CDs and access to thousands of others if we want. I only
listen to the radio for the talk shows. I stopped listening to it a while back,
but now that I can hear delightful people like Franken, and Rhodes, I'm
listening again. I get many music channels on the DirecTV system. I never
listened once.


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than you soooo much for this info. INgrid

"Vox Humana" wrote:
I do the same thing with Sirius. You can listen to Sirius OutQ online
without a subscription. www.siriusoutq.com
They ask for an email address and zip code, but fake ones work just fine.
You might be very interested in the show that runs from 2:00 to 6:00 pm
Eastern time. With a subscription, you can listen to all the music streams
online with a password. Our receiver is in one of the cars. You can often
get deals on radios. You can get a radio for $49.00 at this link:
http://www.sirius.com/servlet/Conten...=1077744929995




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that is me too. I just dont listen to music while doing other things. it took me a
while to get used to Rhodes, but now I am addicted. I even got her bumper sticker
for "team Randi". Ingrid

escapee wrote:
I don't care much about the music on satellite. Between my husband and I, we
have about a thousand CDs and access to thousands of others if we want. I only
listen to the radio for the talk shows. I stopped listening to it a while back,
but now that I can hear delightful people like Franken, and Rhodes, I'm
listening again. I get many music channels on the DirecTV system. I never
listened once.


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than you soooo much for this info. INgrid


The 2 PM show is hosted by Michelangelo Signorile. While it covers topics of
the gay community, it is mostly focused on politics. He has some wonderful
guests who have written books and articles that you will never hear about
from the regular media. Unfortunately, I believe that today they are
running a repeat of some event they recorded on the weekend while Mike is
addressing some convention. You might want to skip today's show.

She reminds me of me and everyone else I grew up with in Brooklyn! I don't
think my accent is as thick as hers, but I concentrate on not having that old
accent. She is very funny, but also very smart.

V


On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:30:11 GMT, opined:

that is me too. I just dont listen to music while doing other things. it took me a
while to get used to Rhodes, but now I am addicted. I even got her bumper sticker
for "team Randi". Ingrid

escapee wrote:
I don't care much about the music on satellite. Between my husband and I, we
have about a thousand CDs and access to thousands of others if we want. I only
listen to the radio for the talk shows. I stopped listening to it a while back,
but now that I can hear delightful people like Franken, and Rhodes, I'm
listening again. I get many music channels on the DirecTV system. I never
listened once.


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"'enry VIII" wrote in message news:NmtBc.87317$0y.76847@attbi_s03...
"John A. Keslick, Jr." wrote in message
...
The bible is fiction, a myth, baloney, made up by sheephearders 2000 years
ago, get over it and get a life!

Yeah, better base your life on NBC!

http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/godl01.htm

"Contrary to popular assumption the Bible did not descend from heaven
carried by flocks of angels, nor was it dictated to mortal scribes by a god;
it was written and embellished by some 40 authors - prophets, kings,
politicians and clergymen in a variety of styles over a 1600 year period. It
was written in Hebrew, Greek (vernacular), Aramaic, Syriac, Coptic and
Latin. On stone, wood, clay, goatskin and papyrus. However the foundations
of Christianity and Bible we know today were laid by religious bureaucrats
of the 4th century AD, when the first Roman Emperor to convert to
Christianity, Constantine the Great (274-337 AD), needed a single canon to
constitute the Christian faith in hopes of unifying a cracking empire. Until
this time Christian leaders could not agree on Christ's relationship to God,
or which texts should be considered the word of god and which should not.
Two meetings were convened at Nicaea, in what's today northwest Turkey, to
codify the emerging religion. The first in 325AD and second in 787AD. During
the momentous first Council of Nicaea delegates debated pertinent
theological issues, such as the divinity of Jesus Christ; proposed books for
inclusion in the sacred canon and voted the word of god into existence."

This is complete crap, and I strongly suggest you read around the
subject more. There are plenty of sites about what the Council of
Nicaea did and did not do, including documents from it, and I suggest
you go and look.

"The central tenets of Christianity is that Jesus of Nazareth was the son of
god, one part of a divine trinity: born of a virgin, he preached to the
masses, suffered, died on the cross for the sins of man and rose from the
dead on the third day. This, along with the belief that his birth was
preceded by miraculous events, political intrigue and heralded by wise-men
form the foundation of the Christian faith. However Christianity is either
peppered with themes coincidentally similar to much older Eastern religions,
or these similarities are proof positive that church founders plagiarized
other faiths: "

This is intellectually illiterate.

All the best,

Roger Pearse

"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
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"'enry VIII" wrote in message
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"John A. Keslick, Jr." wrote in message
...
The bible is fiction, a myth, baloney, made up by sheephearders 2000
years
ago, get over it and get a life!

"The central tenets of Christianity is that Jesus of Nazareth was the son
of
god, one part of a divine trinity: born of a virgin, he preached to the
masses, suffered, died on the cross for the sins of man and rose from the
dead on the third day. This, along with the belief that his birth was
preceded by miraculous events, political intrigue and heralded by
wise-men
form the foundation of the Christian faith. However Christianity is
either
peppered with themes coincidentally similar to much older Eastern
religions,
or these similarities are proof positive that church founders plagiarized
other faiths: "

This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

John

This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

Half true at best. The stories are similar on a few points,
coincidentally the only ones you'd choose to broadcast. I won't ask you
if you know the points where the divergences are huge, of course you
won't know them. Even on points of similarity, the Hebraic revelations
of creation are the only ones with which with the findings of modern
science consistently comport (www.reasons.org). As to "messianic"
stories, indeed knowledge was in the world of the coming of a savior
long before he came. The Bible is clear on this. That versions of this
amazing prophecy appears in the myths of most civilizations is not a
disproof of Christ as you contend but evidence of it's universal
significance to mankind. So, the question is today as it was six
thousand years ago. Which messiah, if any, is the real one? That's the
wonder of the exceptional quality of free will that God gave only to his
Adamic creation: everybody here gets to pick his messiah. That you
despise the one called Jesus is boringly clear. It's also clear you're
too much a fool to realize you'll soon be conjuring your own messiah to
unify a troubled world as you see it. Speaking of plagarism, from whence
do you think liberalism's twisted materialist egalitarianism originally
derived, Marx? Carter?

"Liberalism is the only religion where gratitude is a sin."

wrote in message
...
This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

Half true at best. The stories are similar on a few points,
coincidentally the only ones you'd choose to broadcast. I won't ask you
if you know the points where the divergences are huge, of course you
won't know them. Even on points of similarity, the Hebraic revelations
of creation are the only ones with which with the findings of modern
science consistently comport (www.reasons.org). As to "messianic"
stories, indeed knowledge was in the world of the coming of a savior
long before he came. The Bible is clear on this.

The Bible is clear on nothing, that is why there are over 33,000 Protestant
Cults all claiming to be the only true church.

Casper the Friendly Ghost is clear on his good doings.

Both works of fiction but both just as valid, Hoy Ghost, Friendly Ghost, get
it? VBG

I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president.
-- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000

Nothing [Bush] does can be challenged on moral grounds, however unethical or
evil it might appear,
because all of his actions are directed by God. He can twist the truth,
oppress the poor, exalt the rich,
despoil the earth, ignore the law--and murder children--without the
slightest compunction, the briefest
moment of doubt or self-reflection, because he believes, he truly believes,
that God squats in his brainpan and tells him what to do.
-- Chris Floyd, CounterPunch, 7/30/03

George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United
States. He was appointed by God.
-- Lt. Gen. William Boykin, the defense undersecretary in charge of
hunting down top terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan

No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should
they
be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God.
-- George Bush Sr., to a reporter in 1988

We Americans have no commission from God to police the world.
--Benjamin Harrison

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the
Christian religion.
--George Washington, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
--Thomas Jefferson, February 10, 1814

Comparison of some life events of Horus and Jesus:
Event Horus Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus
Conception: By a virgin. By a virgin. 8
Father: Only begotten son of the God Osiris. Only begotten son of
Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).
Mother: Meri. 9 Miriam (a.k.a. Mary).
Foster father: Seb, (Jo-Seph). 9 Joseph.
Foster father's ancestry: Of royal descent. Of royal descent.
Birth location: In a cave. In a cave or stable.
Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother. By an angel to Miriam,
his mother. 8
Birth heralded by: The star Sirius, the morning star. An unidentified
"star in the East."
Birth date: Ancient Egyptians paraded a manger and child representing
Horus through the streets at the time of the winter solstice (typically
DEC-21). Celebrated on DEC-25. The date was chosen to occur on the same
date as the birth of Mithra, Dionysus and the Sol Invictus (unconquerable
Sun), etc.
Birth announcement: By angels. By angels. 8
Birth witnesses: Shepherds. Shepherds. 8
Later witnesses to birth: Three solar deities. Three wise men. 8
Death threat during infancy: Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Herod
tried to have Jesus murdered.
Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus' mother "Come, thou
goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." An angel tells Jesus' father to:
"Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
Rite of passage ritual: Horus came of age with a special ritual, when
his eye was restored. Taken by parents to the temple for what is today
called a bar mitzvah ritual.
Age at the ritual: 12 12
Break in life history: No data between ages of 12 & 30. No data
between ages of 12 & 30.
Baptism location: In the river Eridanus. In the river Jordan.
Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Anup the Baptiser. John the Baptist.
Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Beheaded. Beheaded.
Temptation: Taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain by his
arch-rival Sut. Sut (a.k.a. Set) was a precursor for the Hebrew Satan. Taken
from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain by his arch-rival Satan.
Result of temptation: Horus resists temptation. Jesus resists
temptation.
Supporters Twelve disciples. Twelve disciples.
Activities: Walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick,
restored sight to the blind. He "stilled the sea by his power." Walked on
water, cast out demons, healed the sick, restored sight to the blind. He
ordered the sea with a "Peace, be still" command.
Raising of the dead: Horus raised Osirus, his dead father, from the
grave. 10 Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave.
Location where the resurrection miracle occurred: Anu, an Egyptian
city where the rites of the death, burial and resurrection of Horus were
enacted annually. 10 Hebrews added their prefix for house ('beth") to "Anu"
to produce "Beth-Anu" or the "House of Anu." Since "u" and "y" were
interchangeable in antiquity, "Bethanu" became "Bethany," the location
mentioned in John 11.
Origin of Lazarus' name: Asar was an alternate name for Osirus, Horus'
father, who Horus raised from the dead. He was referred to as "the Asar," as
a sign of respect. Translated into Hebrew, this is "El-Asar." The Romans
added the prefix "us" to indicate a male name, producing "Elasarus." Over
time, the "E" was dropped and "s" became "z," producing "Lazarus." 10 As
described by the author(s) of the Gospel of John.
Transfigured: On a mountain. On a high mountain.
Key address(es): Sermon on the Mount. Sermon on the Mount; Sermon on
the Plain.
Method of death By crucifixion. By crucifixion.
Accompanied by: Two thieves. Two thieves.
Burial In a tomb. In a tomb.
Fate after death: Descended into Hell; resurrected after three days.
Descended into Hell; resurrected after about 30 to 38 hours (Friday PM to
presumably some time in Sunday AM) covering parts of three days.
Resurrection announced by: Women. Women.
Futu Reign for 1,000 years in the Millennium. Reign for 1,000 years
in the Millennium.

John

In article dBDDc.162192$3x.41187@attbi_s54,
John Watson wrote:


The Bible is clear on nothing, that is why there are over 33,000 Protestant
Cults all claiming to be the only true church.


Your bigotry is showing. Not only are you wrong about Christianity,
you are both ignorant and wrong about Protestantism.


billo

"John Watson" wrote in message news:zYqDc.115711$eu.76391@attbi_s02...
"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
om...
"'enry VIII" wrote in message
news:NmtBc.87317$0y.76847@attbi_s03...
"John A. Keslick, Jr." wrote in message
...
The bible is fiction, a myth, baloney, made up by sheephearders 2000
years
ago, get over it and get a life!

"The central tenets of Christianity is that Jesus of Nazareth was the son
of
god, one part of a divine trinity: born of a virgin, he preached to the
masses, suffered, died on the cross for the sins of man and rose from the
dead on the third day. This, along with the belief that his birth was
preceded by miraculous events, political intrigue and heralded by
wise-men
form the foundation of the Christian faith. However Christianity is
either
peppered with themes coincidentally similar to much older Eastern
religions,
or these similarities are proof positive that church founders plagiarized
other faiths: "

This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

You don't know what truth is then. You must be a jerk!


John

NOT like that literary genuis, Ronald Reagan, eh?

Well, there you go again!!

Kill a Commie for Mommie!!!


wrote in message
...
This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

Half true at best. The stories are similar on a few points,
coincidentally the only ones you'd choose to broadcast. I won't ask you
if you know the points where the divergences are huge, of course you
won't know them. Even on points of similarity, the Hebraic revelations
of creation are the only ones with which with the findings of modern
science consistently comport (www.reasons.org). As to "messianic"
stories, indeed knowledge was in the world of the coming of a savior
long before he came. The Bible is clear on this. That versions of this
amazing prophecy appears in the myths of most civilizations is not a
disproof of Christ as you contend but evidence of it's universal
significance to mankind. So, the question is today as it was six
thousand years ago. Which messiah, if any, is the real one? That's the
wonder of the exceptional quality of free will that God gave only to his
Adamic creation: everybody here gets to pick his messiah. That you
despise the one called Jesus is boringly clear. It's also clear you're
too much a fool to realize you'll soon be conjuring your own messiah to
unify a troubled world as you see it. Speaking of plagarism, from whence
do you think liberalism's twisted materialist egalitarianism originally
derived, Marx? Carter?

"Liberalism is the only religion where gratitude is a sin."

"Bill Oliver" wrote in message
...
In article dBDDc.162192$3x.41187@attbi_s54,
John Watson wrote:


The Bible is clear on nothing, that is why there are over 33,000
Protestant
Cults all claiming to be the only true church.


Your bigotry is showing. Not only are you wrong about Christianity,
you are both ignorant and wrong about Protestantism.


How do you account for so many denominations each having so large a
difference with fellow Christians that they can't abide belonging to the
same organization?

"Not-easily-duped" wrote in message
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"John Watson" wrote in message
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"Roger Pearse" wrote in message
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"'enry VIII" wrote in message
news:NmtBc.87317$0y.76847@attbi_s03...
"John A. Keslick, Jr." wrote in message
...
The bible is fiction, a myth, baloney, made up by sheephearders 2000
years
ago, get over it and get a life!

"The central tenets of Christianity is that Jesus of Nazareth was the
son
of
god, one part of a divine trinity: born of a virgin, he preached to
the
masses, suffered, died on the cross for the sins of man and rose from
the
dead on the third day. This, along with the belief that his birth was
preceded by miraculous events, political intrigue and heralded by
wise-men
form the foundation of the Christian faith. However Christianity is
either
peppered with themes coincidentally similar to much older Eastern
religions,
or these similarities are proof positive that church founders
plagiarized
other faiths: "

This is intellectually illiterate.

But true!

You don't know what truth is then. You must be a jerk!

I may be a jerk but I do know what the truth is and it sure isn't some bible
thumper calling on some Santa Claus like bible character to destroy anyone
that doesn't believe the same bullshit as he does. G

And you are an Asshole! VBG

John


John