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Ted Shoemaker 08-09-2004 10:52 PM

looking for a sturdy "natural" lawn
 
Hello,

I have recently read a little about natural landscaping -- that is,
using indigenous plants. There are plenty of benefits.

If someone here could help me with a problem, I would appreciate it:
As far as I can tell, none of the local indigenous plants makes a
sturdy lawn.

I live in Madison, Wisconsin. The native plants here include
prairie grasses, wildflowers, and deciduous trees.

When you step on turf grass, it springs back immediately. You can't
do that with prairie grasses and wildflowers. To the contrary, we see
signs that say things like "Stay on the trail! The wild plants are
fragile!"

What would you recommend for a natural lawn in Madison, Wisconsin?

Thank you very much!

Ted Shoemaker

Pam - gardengal 08-09-2004 11:24 PM


"Ted Shoemaker" wrote in message
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Hello,

I have recently read a little about natural landscaping -- that is,
using indigenous plants. There are plenty of benefits.

If someone here could help me with a problem, I would appreciate it:
As far as I can tell, none of the local indigenous plants makes a
sturdy lawn.

I live in Madison, Wisconsin. The native plants here include
prairie grasses, wildflowers, and deciduous trees.

When you step on turf grass, it springs back immediately. You can't
do that with prairie grasses and wildflowers. To the contrary, we see
signs that say things like "Stay on the trail! The wild plants are
fragile!"

What would you recommend for a natural lawn in Madison, Wisconsin?

Thank you very much!

Ted Shoemaker


It is difficult to replicate the effect of turf grasses with indigenous
plants. Big expanses of lawns are a totally artificial gardening construct,
ie., they do not occur naturally, only under cultivation. The best I could
suggest is buffalo grass, Buchloe dactyloides, which is native of the low
grass prairies and is used as a turf grass in high drought areas or to plant
a meadow of native grasses and wildflowers and mow only in those areas where
access is necessary or desired.

If you use the buffalo grass, you will still need to maintain it like other
turf grasses to get the "lawn" effect.

http://www.easywildflowers.com/quality/buc.dacty.htm

pam - gardengal



Warren 09-09-2004 12:07 AM

Ted Shoemaker wrote:
I have recently read a little about natural landscaping -- that is,
using indigenous plants. There are plenty of benefits.

If someone here could help me with a problem, I would appreciate it:
As far as I can tell, none of the local indigenous plants makes a
sturdy lawn.

I live in Madison, Wisconsin. The native plants here include
prairie grasses, wildflowers, and deciduous trees.

When you step on turf grass, it springs back immediately. You can't
do that with prairie grasses and wildflowers. To the contrary, we see
signs that say things like "Stay on the trail! The wild plants are
fragile!"

What would you recommend for a natural lawn in Madison, Wisconsin?



What you plant depends on how you use your lawn. Is it a playground for
the kids? Is it a shortcut that's constantly walked over? Is it space
between flower beds? Is a window facing it the focal point of a room? Or
is it just a large open space that does nothing?

If all you want is a big open space that looks like a "lawn", then stick
with turf grass. Otherwise, what you plant depends on how you want your
"lawn" to function.

--
Warren H.

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Bill Oliver 09-09-2004 02:07 PM

In article PEL%c.149326$Fg5.100460@attbi_s53,
Pam - gardengal wrote:

If you use the buffalo grass, you will still need to maintain it like other
turf grasses to get the "lawn" effect.

http://www.easywildflowers.com/quality/buc.dacty.htm


The other thing to think about is how much traffic most of the lawn
actually gets. I'm in the process of replacing a large lawn
the previous owners of my house maintained. I am planting it
with natural plants, mulched garden, and alternative groundcover.
I am not raising a soccer team, and most of the the actual tread
wear on most of the lawn occurs when I cut it. I can easily and
safely replace most of the grass with groundcover that is not
extremely tolerant of foot traffic, but can handle it on an
occasional basis.

billo



Peter H 10-09-2004 02:54 AM

Ted Shoemaker wrote:
Hello,

I have recently read a little about natural landscaping -- that is,
using indigenous plants. There are plenty of benefits.

If someone here could help me with a problem, I would appreciate it:
As far as I can tell, none of the local indigenous plants makes a
sturdy lawn.

I live in Madison, Wisconsin. The native plants here include
prairie grasses, wildflowers, and deciduous trees.

When you step on turf grass, it springs back immediately. You can't
do that with prairie grasses and wildflowers. To the contrary, we see
signs that say things like "Stay on the trail! The wild plants are
fragile!"

What would you recommend for a natural lawn in Madison, Wisconsin?

Thank you very much!

Ted Shoemaker

Level the ground and wait to see what comes up. Then wack the weeds. In
a month wack 'em again. In a year or so you will have a natural lawn.

Good luck with it.

Peter H


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