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[email protected] 19-09-2004 03:46 PM

mystery flower
 
I posted a picture on rec.binaries.pictures.gardens of a flower
(header: mystery flower) that I bought at a green market in NYC.
8-10" slender-stemmed, orange and red petals, ball-like flower head,
narrow leaves, prolific in full sun. Can I collect seeds from it?

Thanks.

Pam - gardengal 19-09-2004 04:20 PM


wrote in message
...
I posted a picture on rec.binaries.pictures.gardens of a flower
(header: mystery flower) that I bought at a green market in NYC.
8-10" slender-stemmed, orange and red petals, ball-like flower head,
narrow leaves, prolific in full sun. Can I collect seeds from it?

Thanks.


There was no picture associated with that post, but your description sounds
a bit like Gaillardia. Does it look anything like this?
http://www.tsflowers.com/gaillardia_fanfare.jpg

pam - gardengal



MLEBLANCA 19-09-2004 05:19 PM

There was no picture associated with that post, but your description sounds
a bit like Gaillardia. Does it look anything like this?
http://www.tsflowers.com/gaillardia_fanfare.jpg

pam - gardengal


That's what I too thought it might be Pam
Emilie

Cereus-validus 19-09-2004 09:41 PM

Can you get viable seed from cut flowers? NO.


wrote in message
...
I posted a picture on rec.binaries.pictures.gardens of a flower
(header: mystery flower) that I bought at a green market in NYC.
8-10" slender-stemmed, orange and red petals, ball-like flower head,
narrow leaves, prolific in full sun. Can I collect seeds from it?

Thanks.




Frogleg 20-09-2004 10:39 AM

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:41:24 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

wrote


I posted a picture on rec.binaries.pictures.gardens of a flower
(header: mystery flower) that I bought at a green market in NYC.
8-10" slender-stemmed, orange and red petals, ball-like flower head,
narrow leaves, prolific in full sun. Can I collect seeds from it?


Can you get viable seed from cut flowers? NO.


Why not? If an already-polinated flower survives in water and forms a
seedhead, why would those seeds be inferior to any other?

Cereus-validus 20-09-2004 02:16 PM

Don't be so naive. Plants need much more complex nutrients than just plain
water to produce mature fertile seeds. Cutting off the supply of the
necessary nutrients causes the developing ovules (if any) to abort. The cut
flowers are pretreated by the florist by soaking them in a bleach solution
that does just that.

Most florist cut flowers are single clones that are usually not self-fertile
anyway.

BTW, its spelled "pollinated".


"Frogleg" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:41:24 GMT, "Cereus-validus"
wrote:

wrote


I posted a picture on rec.binaries.pictures.gardens of a flower
(header: mystery flower) that I bought at a green market in NYC.
8-10" slender-stemmed, orange and red petals, ball-like flower head,
narrow leaves, prolific in full sun. Can I collect seeds from it?


Can you get viable seed from cut flowers? NO.


Why not? If an already-polinated flower survives in water and forms a
seedhead, why would those seeds be inferior to any other?




Bill 20-09-2004 08:15 PM

Cereus-validus wrote:

Don't be so naive. Plants chrysanthemummmmmmre complex nutrients than just

plain
water to produce mature fertile seeds. Cutting off the supply of the
necessary nutrients causes the developing ovules (if any) to abort. The
cut flowers are pretreated by the florist by soaking them in a bleach
solution that does just that.

Most florist cut flowers are single clones that are usually not
self-fertile anyway.


I've saved and germinated seed from florist spider chrysanthemum, planted
them in the garden and viola! Beautiful fall mums!

Highly recommended!

The Hawke


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