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[email protected] 10-02-2005 01:49 PM

Growing Blackberries
 
Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building some along a
fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I mulch with plastic or do
they have runners? Do they flower? Are they pretty? DO they need alot
of water?


Lar 10-02-2005 03:11 PM

In article . com,
says...
:) Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building some along a
:) fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I mulch with plastic or do
:) they have runners? Do they flower? Are they pretty? DO they need alot
:) of water?
:)
:)
Not sure they would be the best choice to use for landscaping along a
fence. For the berry production, you cut much them back after harvest
so they can be unsightly. If you let them go wild they will have runners
popping up all over the yard.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

junkyardcat 10-02-2005 04:33 PM

We have 11 acres covered with wild blackberries (commonly called
dewberries), and while they are pretty (they produce small white flowers),
they can quickly become a pain in the wazoo, LOL! They do produce runners
and if you don't keep them cut back to a tolerable amount will overtake your
whole yard. When I first moved here, they were in the asparagus garden,
mixed in with the flower gardens, etc...I would pick a plant up and pull and
these HUGE runners would stretch for what seemed like miles:)

I'm not saying they're a pest though...I love the blackberries we get for
pies, jam, etc., but just know what you're getting into before you plant
some:) And I would suggest thornless, because the ones we have are full of
thorns, and they hurt like the dickens when they get in your fingers!

Hope this helps:)
Angie in the Boonies of East Texas




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Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building some along a
fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I mulch with plastic or do
they have runners? Do they flower? Are they pretty? DO they need alot
of water?




mmccaws 10-02-2005 05:47 PM

I'm no expert but in the NW they're a pest, hardy as can be and they're
not easily removed if they like your soil. I'd also recommend the
thornless type. There a properties up here that have them so thick
that the stocks get over a inch thick.


Travis 10-02-2005 06:13 PM

mmccaws wrote:
I'm no expert but in the NW they're a pest, hardy as can be and
they're not easily removed if they like your soil. I'd also
recommend the thornless type. There a properties up here that have
them so thick that the stocks get over a inch thick.


Those are Himalayan blackberries. They are not native and are very
invasive.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8b
Sunset Zone 5


simy1 10-02-2005 10:24 PM


wrote:
Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building some along

a
fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I mulch with plastic or

do
they have runners? Do they flower? Are they pretty? DO they need alot
of water?


wherever you may be, they are rampant weeds. Buy a machete if you plan
to plant them. I have them on fence rows in the back yard, two types.
The berries are good, and they also have different harvest times. They
are ugly, thorny, and messy, they catch your shirt and your glasses
when you ride your mower past them, I mow and spray them if they only
attempt to cross a certain line, but I am not one to refuse free fresh
berries.


Newt 11-02-2005 07:13 AM


Hi Stryped,
You've already gotten some good advice about growing blackberries. I too do not recommend you growing them along a fence line. Here's growing info on them so you can see how they should be grown.
http://muextension.missouri.edu/expl...ort/g06000.htm

Newt

enigma 11-02-2005 02:19 PM

wrote in
ups.com:

Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building
some along a fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I
mulch with plastic or do they have runners? Do they flower?
Are they pretty? DO they need alot of water?


are you completely clue free? can you not read? (i thought
shy people read a lot...)
anyway, blackberries are weeds. they are easy to grow.
anything that bears fruit has flowers (skipped biology, did
you?). they need a lot of sun, so if it's sunny along your
fence, & the soil is decent, they will do ok. they aren't
particularly attractive & you will need to prune out old canes
every year & tie up the current growing canes.
how much you need to water them depends on what your soil is
like & how much rain you get. if it's really dry, you get
crappy dried out berries.
given a choice, i'd grow raspberries over blackberries any
day.
lee wondering how one builds blackberries

[email protected] 11-02-2005 03:10 PM


enigma wrote:
wrote in
ups.com:

Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building
some along a fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I
mulch with plastic or do they have runners? Do they flower?
Are they pretty? DO they need alot of water?


are you completely clue free? can you not read? (i thought
shy people read a lot...)
anyway, blackberries are weeds. they are easy to grow.
anything that bears fruit has flowers (skipped biology, did
you?). they need a lot of sun, so if it's sunny along your
fence, & the soil is decent, they will do ok. they aren't
particularly attractive & you will need to prune out old canes
every year & tie up the current growing canes.
how much you need to water them depends on what your soil is
like & how much rain you get. if it's really dry, you get
crappy dried out berries.
given a choice, i'd grow raspberries over blackberries any
day.
lee wondering how one builds blackberries


Thanks for the response but not for the smart tone.


paghat 11-02-2005 07:34 PM

In article , enigma
wrote:

wrote in
ups.com:

Is this hard? How do they grow? Been thinking of building
some along a fence I need to build in the front yard. Can I
mulch with plastic or do they have runners? Do they flower?
Are they pretty? DO they need alot of water?


are you completely clue free? can you not read? (i thought
shy people read a lot...)
anyway, blackberries are weeds. they are easy to grow.
anything that bears fruit has flowers (skipped biology, did
you?). they need a lot of sun, so if it's sunny along your
fence, & the soil is decent, they will do ok. they aren't
particularly attractive & you will need to prune out old canes
every year & tie up the current growing canes.
how much you need to water them depends on what your soil is
like & how much rain you get. if it's really dry, you get
crappy dried out berries.
given a choice, i'd grow raspberries over blackberries any
day.
lee wondering how one builds blackberries


Blackberries don't need to be weeds, though the amount of care you
describe to keep them tidy & maximumly fruitful can be a bother compared
to low-maintenance things. There are many restrained cultivars & hybrids,
& even thornless varieties, which I find do have a degree of ornamental
value even apart from their great fruits. Even our native blackberry which
creeps along the ground is a pretty thing, like a groundcover vine. I
don't encourage that stuff, the fruits are too small to grow them for that
purpose, but they're not actively ugly, they're as pretty as many a
strictly ornamental vine.

In our area the huge Himalayan blackberries are so easily harvested from
roadsides & meadow margins & alleys & along railroad tracks, & the fruit
so enormous & tasty, I wouldn't personally want to try to compete with
what's growing free by taking up garden space with littler briars that
would produce smaller fruits than can be gotten freely during a short walk
with a bucket in hand. But I did plant thornless loganberries at Sinlur
Gardens this past year, they can have an almost woody form at their heart
&amp produce sideways canes from its upright center, &amp look quite
ornamental even pruned back to the center (or so I've seen in other
gardens, & hope I can train these thornless ones to look as nice). The
loganberries now flank an old raspberry patch, which is merely cut to the
ground each year to start over so not much labor in that. If after a year
the rhubus area hasn't seemed too much a bother of maintenance, & have
seemed sufficiently attractive since even the fruiting stuff has to serve
double-duty for prettiness too, I'll add one more hybridized blackberry
such as boysenberry or marionberry.

But I also planted three young serviceberries of two species near the same
area, so that if the rhubus are too bothersome to care for properly, they
can slowly be supplanted by large woody shrubs that are almost care-free
while producing wonderfully tasty fruits. In my own small gardens I don't
have the room to experiment like this, so this job with SinLur has been
superdooper for pursuing several projects I lacked room to do at home, & I
have already started some Sinlur Stoneworks & Gardens pages at my website,
labeled as separate from my own home, & it's a struggle not to get too
possessive of Sinlur, but what an opportunity to improve & extend an
ENORMOUS garden rather than just my wee property.

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