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TP 07-08-2006 12:21 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I’m
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven’t located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks

Al Bundy 07-08-2006 01:54 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
TP wrote in
:

We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks



A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways, patios, fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b

Mike 07-08-2006 02:39 AM

weeds and pavers?
 

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
TP wrote in
:

We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks



A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of wanted
roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways, patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b

Sounds just like roundup. I hear silca sand in the cracks works well.



FDR 07-08-2006 02:42 AM

weeds and pavers?
 

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
TP wrote in
:

We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks



A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of wanted
roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways, patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to fill in
the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good solution that would
last.



TP 07-08-2006 03:11 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could
be a pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you
can’t rub off the haze on pavers…
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is
needed around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?



FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks



A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of wanted
roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways, patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b



We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to fill in
the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good solution that would
last.



[email protected] 07-08-2006 02:00 PM

weeds and pavers?
 

Mike wrote:

http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b

Sounds just like roundup. I hear silca sand in the cracks works well.



Actually, it's very different than Roundup. While Roundup also kills
just about everything, you can safely replant a week later. The above
type product not only kills, but keeps anything from germinating for 6
months to a year. It's designed for driveways, walkways, etc.


newsreader 07-08-2006 02:23 PM

weeds and pavers?
 
TP wrote:
We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I’m sure
there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds from
sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed mat or
newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same as the other
areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of the chemical (weed
stop) sand mix. Haven’t located any around here. I hear its very
expense, and wears away. I hate to use a chemical (ie: roundup) because
of it getting into the pool water. Tried the weed torch to burn them,
PITA. Does anyone have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


Sorry if this is a duplicate, I never saw my earlier reply show up.

Start by washing out as much of the stone dust as you can. Stone dust
is no good for interlocking paver joints. (I hope for your patio's sake
your setting bed is not stone dust as well.)

Let the area dry out thoroughly.

Invest in some polymeric joint sand (NOT grout), it should be available
from most resellers of concrete pavers. Follow installation instructions
carefully & completely.

The brand we sell here in Maryland can be seen he

http://www.techniseal.com/products.p...=1&langue_Id=1

This product should eliminate virtually all your weed problems, and also
stop ants from tunneling through the joints & making piles of powder on
the surface.

David


M.Paul 07-08-2006 04:25 PM

weeds and pavers?
 
I set 500 sf of pavers 2 years ago. DW would only agree to pavers if I
promised that no weeds would grow in between them. I used a product called
Surebond. So far not a single weed has appeared. It's not cheap but it
works! I am not affiliated with the company - just a very satisfied
customer.

"TP" wrote in message
...
We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I’m
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven’t located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks




JimR 07-08-2006 11:06 PM

weeds and pavers?
 
A friend of mine installed pavers using sand in the joints for a year or two
until he was sure there would be no settling, then he (a) pressure washed
them to wash out some of the sand, (b) sprinkled grout over the pavers and
used a broom to sweep it off the pavers and into the joints, and (c) gave it
a light sprinkling of water. It looks great, nothing grows in the cracks,
and it's really solid -- Regards --

"M.Paul" wrote in message
...
I set 500 sf of pavers 2 years ago. DW would only agree to pavers if I
promised that no weeds would grow in between them. I used a product
called
Surebond. So far not a single weed has appeared. It's not cheap but it
works! I am not affiliated with the company - just a very satisfied
customer.

"TP" wrote in message
...
We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks






FDR 09-08-2006 05:20 AM

weeds and pavers?
 

"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could be a pain
to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can’t rub off the haze
on pavers…
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is needed
around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?


We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers first, but the
contractor never came back. Now I just spray it with Roundup long term weed
preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
m:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of wanted
roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways, patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...8627e685fc3a8b



We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to fill
in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good solution that
would last.




Al Bundy 10-08-2006 03:49 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
"FDR" wrote in
:


"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could be a
pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can’t rub off
the haze on pavers…
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is needed
around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?


We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers first,
but the contractor never came back. Now I just spray it with Roundup
long term weed preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of
wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways,
patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...ct/documentId/
f985420bc0ed1ea7a78627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to
fill in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good
solution that would last.






Triox works better. Sterilizes the soil. Nothing can germinate...even if
you plant something in it.

Ortho makes both products. I guess one saves a nickel but may work just
as well. I go for the sure kill myself. No stragglers.

FDR 11-08-2006 04:54 PM

weeds and pavers?
 

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could be a
pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can't rub off
the haze on pavers.
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is needed
around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?


We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers first,
but the contractor never came back. Now I just spray it with Roundup
long term weed preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
m:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of
wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways,
patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...ct/documentId/
f985420bc0ed1ea7a78627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to
fill in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good
solution that would last.






Triox works better. Sterilizes the soil. Nothing can germinate...even if
you plant something in it.

Ortho makes both products. I guess one saves a nickel but may work just
as well. I go for the sure kill myself. No stragglers.


What does this stuff smell like? I tried some with the Ortho weed stopper
and it smelled horrible; the Roundup was fine.



Al Bundy 13-08-2006 05:06 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
"FDR" wrote in
:


"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could be
a pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can't rub
off the haze on pavers.
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is
needed around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?

We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers first,
but the contractor never came back. Now I just spray it with
Roundup long term weed preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
om:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of
wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways,
patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...duct/documentI
d/ f985420bc0ed1ea7a78627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to
fill in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good
solution that would last.





Triox works better. Sterilizes the soil. Nothing can germinate...even
if you plant something in it.

Ortho makes both products. I guess one saves a nickel but may work
just as well. I go for the sure kill myself. No stragglers.


What does this stuff smell like? I tried some with the Ortho weed
stopper and it smelled horrible; the Roundup was fine.




I have a cheap computer. I can't post smells.

I mean really now. It's outside. You want to kill the weeds or what?
Whatever it smells like, it's gonna dissipate in a day or two.

FDR 18-08-2006 08:21 PM

weeds and pavers?
 

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could be
a pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can't rub
off the haze on pavers.
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is
needed around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?

We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers first,
but the contractor never came back. Now I just spray it with
Roundup long term weed preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
. com:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the weeds
from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the weed
mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the same
as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I heard of
the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any around
here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate to use a
chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the pool
water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does anyone
have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful of
wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways,
patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...duct/documentI
d/ f985420bc0ed1ea7a78627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount to
fill in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a good
solution that would last.





Triox works better. Sterilizes the soil. Nothing can germinate...even
if you plant something in it.

Ortho makes both products. I guess one saves a nickel but may work
just as well. I go for the sure kill myself. No stragglers.


What does this stuff smell like? I tried some with the Ortho weed
stopper and it smelled horrible; the Roundup was fine.




I have a cheap computer. I can't post smells.


No, but you can post opinions or descriptions.


I mean really now. It's outside. You want to kill the weeds or what?
Whatever it smells like, it's gonna dissipate in a day or two.


The smell from the Ortho stuff lasted for well over a month. Luckily it was
done early enough in the season or it would have been bad trying to be by
the pool.



Al Bundy 19-08-2006 04:38 AM

weeds and pavers?
 
"FDR" wrote in
:


"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...
"FDR" wrote in
:


"TP" wrote in message
...
Thanks FDR. polymer grout...? Interesting! Seems, like it could
be a pain to install. If it installs like ceramic tile, you can't
rub off the haze on pavers.
I wonder if polymer would prevent the natural drainage that is
needed around a pool.
FDR, What did you use for grout? Have any problems?

We never grouted it. We were going to fix the uneven pavers
first, but the contractor never came back. Now I just spray it
with Roundup long term weed preventer. It works well.




FDR wrote:

"Al Bundy" wrote in message
...

TP wrote in
.com:


We have Unilock pavers around our in ground swimming pool. I'm
sure there are others who have pavers. How do you keep the
weeds from sprouting between the pavers? Tried an area with the
weed mat or newspaper, after a season (upstate NY) it looks the
same as the other areas. I use stone dust in the joints. I
heard of the chemical (weed stop) sand mix. Haven't located any
around here. I hear its very expense, and wears away. I hate
to use a chemical (ie: roundup) because of it getting into the
pool water. Tried the weed torch to burn them, PITA. Does
anyone have a good solution to weeds and pavers?

Thanks


A chemical but it will kill everything and anything. Be careful
of wanted roots that
may be near or under the weeds.

Ortho® GroundClear® Complete Vegetation Killer Concentrate

* Kills weeds and prevents new growth for up to 1 year
* Eliminates unwanted vegetation from driveways, walkways,
patios,
fence rows and other areas


http://www.ortho.com/index.cfm/event...roduct/documen
tI d/ f985420bc0ed1ea7a78627e685fc3a8b


We had a contractor that was going to put a polymer type grount
to fill in the cracks....never got it done but sounded like a
good solution that would last.





Triox works better. Sterilizes the soil. Nothing can
germinate...even if you plant something in it.

Ortho makes both products. I guess one saves a nickel but may work
just as well. I go for the sure kill myself. No stragglers.

What does this stuff smell like? I tried some with the Ortho weed
stopper and it smelled horrible; the Roundup was fine.




I have a cheap computer. I can't post smells.


No, but you can post opinions or descriptions.


I mean really now. It's outside. You want to kill the weeds or what?
Whatever it smells like, it's gonna dissipate in a day or two.


The smell from the Ortho stuff lasted for well over a month. Luckily
it was done early enough in the season or it would have been bad
trying to be by the pool.





Almost as bad as all the chlorine in the pool I bet...


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