apple trees gone? cherry trees coming?

I have an end of group townhouse with a small yard on the side. It's
next to a small public park area with tall trees, so part of the
morning, all available planting spots are in the shade. Where do I
plant my new cherry trees next spring It says at least 10 feet apart.
They would look good if they were planted in the same spots as the 2
dead and dying apple trees. Is it better to plant where a tree had
been, or in a new spot? I have soil with loads of clay, and I've
lost 2 dogwood trees I planted because, I guess, even though I
conditioned the soil with -- I forget all that I used -- but I adjused
the acidity and mixed in peat moss or whatever I was told, I think the
problem was that I didnt' do this to a big enough ball of dirt, didn't
make a bigger than recommended hole.

I figure the presence of a 26 year old tree has fully conditioned the
hole and the dirt that surrounds it, if I plant in the same place and
dig out the center of the roots (where the hole will be.)

Also, these spots are attractively positioned between some, admittedly
ugly, 15 foot bushes, and a poplar? tree that started growing on its
own and is now 20 feet tall.

Also, one tree is not yet dead, but even if I spray next spring, I'm
not sure I can save it. But maybe I can and maybe I should either buy
just one cherry tree, or I should buy two and plant one where those
ugly bushes are??

Any advice would be appreciated.


Background.
My two apple tress have been doing less and less well because of cedar
apple rust. Admittedly, I didn't spray, partly because I was in a bad
mood, and partly because I was scared of the poison. They told me I
got the last can of it, because it had been banned.

So one finished dying this past summer and I cut it up and it's gone.

The other still had fruit at the start of the fruit growing season,
but they didn't live to maturity. (I think they grow so much and get
sucked back into the tree.) This was a 26 year old tree that used to
give more apples than I could deal with.

But I'm sort of tired of apples and the rust is probably still around,
so i thought I would get two (different) dwarf cherry trees from
Miller's Nurseries.



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apple trees gone? cherry trees coming?

I have an end of group townhouse with a small yard on the side. It's
next to a small public park area with tall trees, so part of the
morning, all available planting spots are in the shade. Where do I
plant my new cherry trees next spring It says at least 10 feet apart.
They would look good if they were planted in the same spots as the 2
dead and dying apple trees. Is it better to plant where a tree had
been, or in a new spot? I have soil with loads of clay, and I've
lost 2 dogwood trees I planted because, I guess, even though I
conditioned the soil with -- I forget all that I used -- but I adjused
the acidity and mixed in peat moss or whatever I was told, I think the
problem was that I didnt' do this to a big enough ball of dirt, didn't
make a bigger than recommended hole.

I figure the presence of a 26 year old tree has fully conditioned the
hole and the dirt that surrounds it, if I plant in the same place and
dig out the center of the roots (where the hole will be.)

Also, these spots are attractively positioned between some, admittedly
ugly, 15 foot bushes, and a poplar? tree that started growing on its
own and is now 20 feet tall.

Also, one tree is not yet dead, but even if I spray next spring, I'm
not sure I can save it. But maybe I can and maybe I should either buy
just one cherry tree, or I should buy two and plant one where those
ugly bushes are??

Any advice would be appreciated.


Background.
My two apple tress have been doing less and less well because of cedar
apple rust. Admittedly, I didn't spray, partly because I was in a bad
mood, and partly because I was scared of the poison. They told me I
got the last can of it, because it had been banned.

So one finished dying this past summer and I cut it up and it's gone.

The other still had fruit at the start of the fruit growing season,
but they didn't live to maturity. (I think they grow so much and get
sucked back into the tree.) This was a 26 year old tree that used to
give more apples than I could deal with.

But I'm sort of tired of apples and the rust is probably still around,
so i thought I would get two (different) dwarf cherry trees from
Miller's Nurseries.


Well the good news is that Miller Nurseries is a class act. We had
mail-ordered from them in the past and then stopped by their place on a
vacation drive thru upstate NY. We were very pleased. Our dwarf fruit
trees could have used more space than the 10' suggested. The first thing
I'd do would be to cut that Poplar tree down and get it out of there. As
far as the roots of the apple trees, I pull small stumps out with a tractor
and a lot of root comes with it but it might be a big chore to dig them out.

I agree with the Sgt. But my recommendation is in the future, you can
use the products directly with the irrigation system, if you are using
drip irrigation.

www.plasgotirrigation.com

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:52:11 GMT, "Srgnt Billko"
wrote:



Well the good news is that Miller Nurseries is a class act. We had
mail-ordered from them in the past and then stopped by their place on a
vacation drive thru upstate NY. We were very pleased.

I'm glad to hear that. I was referred to it by a garden shop around
here that even sells trees, but I guess not many fruit tress.

Our dwarf fruit
trees could have used more space than the 10' suggested. The first thing
I'd do would be to cut that Poplar tree down and get it out of there. As
far as the roots of the apple trees, I pull small stumps out with a tractor
and a lot of root comes with it but it might be a big chore to dig them out.

There is no stump and few roots left. Maybe that is because of the
cedar apple rust, but nonetheless. I can probably rip out any roots
that are in the way. The apple tree roots seemed pretty shallow,
especially the other tree, which fell over twice. But I put it back
and that's not what killed it.

Do cherry tree roots stay near the surface like the apple tree roots
seemed to?



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