They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in almost
new condition.



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"theChas." wrote in message
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They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.


Are you talking about newer machines with primer buttons ?

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"theChas." wrote in message
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They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.

Are you talking about newer machines with primer buttons ?
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Yes.
Right after 9/11 I bought a Sears 2300 watt generator for emergencys. I
cannot heat my house without electricty to operate my gas furnace. I
discovered I can't start the generator (OHV) on the 4th of July, let alone
when it's 40 below zero. Primer bulb and all. It has an updraft intake
manifold and the carb has a horizontal inlet. Fuel will run out of that
inlet, but with the hand pull start, it does not draw it into the cylinder.
So it does not start. I discovered I have to keep the generator in my house
(empty fuel tank) and then when outside, remove the spark plug, and insert
gasoline into the top of the cylinder with an eye dropper. That gets it to
fire, but not run. I then had to find a rubber plug so I can hand choke it
until it finally is able to draw fuel/air into the cylinder and it starts to
run smoothly. This is not a guaranteed first time start. Sometimes I have
to add fuel in the sparkplug hole 2-3 times, before it starts. I don't use
starter fluid because it can damage an engine.
Sears was of absolutley of assistance or help. I run it every 2 months for
20 minutes, and change oil yearly. I have to go through that process every
time, or it will not start, regardless of the temperture.
.. . .In all fairness, I do have a Sears walk behind lawn mower with the Tec
engine, and it is no problem. It is so old that parts are not now available
for it, but it runs great and mows nicely. Recently one of the height
adjusters broke, and I could not replace it. But I managed to weld it
(spring steel) and it has held up for a month now.
.. . .I believe that without a choke, an undraft manifold is a losing
proprosition.



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"theChas." wrote in message
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They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.



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Just put a different carburetor on it.

"theChas." wrote in message
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

"theChas." wrote in message
.. .
They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.

Are you talking about newer machines with primer buttons ?
********************
Yes.
Right after 9/11 I bought a Sears 2300 watt generator for emergencys. I
cannot heat my house without electricty to operate my gas furnace. I
discovered I can't start the generator (OHV) on the 4th of July, let alone
when it's 40 below zero. Primer bulb and all. It has an updraft intake
manifold and the carb has a horizontal inlet. Fuel will run out of that
inlet, but with the hand pull start, it does not draw it into the
cylinder.
So it does not start. I discovered I have to keep the generator in my
house
(empty fuel tank) and then when outside, remove the spark plug, and insert
gasoline into the top of the cylinder with an eye dropper. That gets it
to
fire, but not run. I then had to find a rubber plug so I can hand choke
it
until it finally is able to draw fuel/air into the cylinder and it starts
to
run smoothly. This is not a guaranteed first time start. Sometimes I have
to add fuel in the sparkplug hole 2-3 times, before it starts. I don't
use
starter fluid because it can damage an engine.
Sears was of absolutley of assistance or help. I run it every 2 months
for
20 minutes, and change oil yearly. I have to go through that process
every
time, or it will not start, regardless of the temperture.
. . .In all fairness, I do have a Sears walk behind lawn mower with the
Tec
engine, and it is no problem. It is so old that parts are not now
available
for it, but it runs great and mows nicely. Recently one of the height
adjusters broke, and I could not replace it. But I managed to weld it
(spring steel) and it has held up for a month now.
. . .I believe that without a choke, an undraft manifold is a losing
proprosition.


I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.

"Chas Hurst" wrote in message
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"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

"theChas." wrote in message
...

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

"theChas." wrote in message
.. .
They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.

Are you talking about newer machines with primer buttons ?
********************
Yes.
Right after 9/11 I bought a Sears 2300 watt generator for emergencys. I
cannot heat my house without electricty to operate my gas furnace. I
discovered I can't start the generator (OHV) on the 4th of July, let
alone
when it's 40 below zero. Primer bulb and all. It has an updraft intake
manifold and the carb has a horizontal inlet. Fuel will run out of that
inlet, but with the hand pull start, it does not draw it into the
cylinder.
So it does not start. I discovered I have to keep the generator in my
house
(empty fuel tank) and then when outside, remove the spark plug, and
insert
gasoline into the top of the cylinder with an eye dropper. That gets it
to
fire, but not run. I then had to find a rubber plug so I can hand
choke it
until it finally is able to draw fuel/air into the cylinder and it
starts to
run smoothly. This is not a guaranteed first time start. Sometimes I
have
to add fuel in the sparkplug hole 2-3 times, before it starts. I don't
use
starter fluid because it can damage an engine.
Sears was of absolutley of assistance or help. I run it every 2 months
for
20 minutes, and change oil yearly. I have to go through that process
every
time, or it will not start, regardless of the temperture.
. . .In all fairness, I do have a Sears walk behind lawn mower with the
Tec
engine, and it is no problem. It is so old that parts are not now
available
for it, but it runs great and mows nicely. Recently one of the height
adjusters broke, and I could not replace it. But I managed to weld it
(spring steel) and it has held up for a month now.
. . .I believe that without a choke, an undraft manifold is a losing
proprosition.


I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.

I've got the same engine on my snowblower. But it has a choke-and a primer
bulb. No problems starting it after it sits out the warm weather.

I believe the primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something. Some equipment is designed for a specific part of the
country. Has the original poster carted this machine from some distant
place ?

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
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"theChas." wrote in message
...

"Srgnt Billko" wrote in message
...

"theChas." wrote in message
.. .
They have no choke so they don't start... they attain very old age in
almost
new condition.

Are you talking about newer machines with primer buttons ?
********************
Yes.
Right after 9/11 I bought a Sears 2300 watt generator for emergencys. I
cannot heat my house without electricty to operate my gas furnace. I
discovered I can't start the generator (OHV) on the 4th of July, let
alone
when it's 40 below zero. Primer bulb and all. It has an updraft intake
manifold and the carb has a horizontal inlet. Fuel will run out of that
inlet, but with the hand pull start, it does not draw it into the
cylinder.
So it does not start. I discovered I have to keep the generator in my
house
(empty fuel tank) and then when outside, remove the spark plug, and
insert
gasoline into the top of the cylinder with an eye dropper. That gets it
to
fire, but not run. I then had to find a rubber plug so I can hand choke
it
until it finally is able to draw fuel/air into the cylinder and it starts
to
run smoothly. This is not a guaranteed first time start. Sometimes I
have
to add fuel in the sparkplug hole 2-3 times, before it starts. I don't
use
starter fluid because it can damage an engine.
Sears was of absolutley of assistance or help. I run it every 2 months
for
20 minutes, and change oil yearly. I have to go through that process
every
time, or it will not start, regardless of the temperture.
. . .In all fairness, I do have a Sears walk behind lawn mower with the
Tec
engine, and it is no problem. It is so old that parts are not now
available
for it, but it runs great and mows nicely. Recently one of the height
adjusters broke, and I could not replace it. But I managed to weld it
(spring steel) and it has held up for a month now.
. . .I believe that without a choke, an undraft manifold is a losing
proprosition.


I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.

I've got the same engine on my snowblower. But it has a choke-and a primer
bulb. No problems starting it after it sits out the warm weather.

I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.
******************************
After using the primer bulb, the fuel leaks out of the horizontal intake
manifold. I don't think even an electric start would have the revs to suck
the fuel up into the cylinder. The only thing that works is putting fuel in
cylinder with the eyedropper. Even then it is touch and go, using the rubber
plug 'choke' to get it running. Using the rubber plug with fuel in in the
intake manifold, without using the eyedropper cylinder injection, will not
start the engine. It is one pee poor design.



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"theChas." wrote:
I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.
******************************
After using the primer bulb, the fuel leaks out of the horizontal intake
manifold. I don't think even an electric start would have the revs to
suck the fuel up into the cylinder. The only thing that works is putting
fuel in cylinder with the eyedropper. Even then it is touch and go, using
the rubber plug 'choke' to get it running. Using the rubber plug with
fuel in in the intake manifold, without using the eyedropper cylinder
injection, will not start the engine. It is one pee poor design.

Hit it with starting fluid until it blows up.

"theChas." wrote in message
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I believe your primer bulb is not working - either a bad line to it or
faulty or something.
******************************
After using the primer bulb, the fuel leaks out of the horizontal intake
manifold. I don't think even an electric start would have the revs to
suck
the fuel up into the cylinder. The only thing that works is putting fuel
in
cylinder with the eyedropper. Even then it is touch and go, using the
rubber
plug 'choke' to get it running. Using the rubber plug with fuel in in the
intake manifold, without using the eyedropper cylinder injection, will not
start the engine. It is one pee poor design.


That sounds like maybe the intake valve isn't openning right or the exhaust
valve isn't closing. I've had primer bulbs on several engines and the only
problems I've had have been with the small ID connecting hoses.

That sounds like maybe the intake valve isn't openning right or the
exhaust
valve isn't closing. I've had primer bulbs on several engines and the only
problems I've had have been with the small ID connecting hoses.
***************
I have considered that. I would hate to tear into a brand new engine on my
own. And since Sears warranty was useless, that is how I would have to do
it. It has enough warm-up time on it now, that any newness should be
passed. It has had 4 oil changes, with less than 2.5 hours running time.
Once it is running, no problems. Starting fluid would be the easiest method
to start it, but that is really tough on engines.



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"theChas." wrote in message
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That sounds like maybe the intake valve isn't openning right or the
exhaust
valve isn't closing. I've had primer bulbs on several engines and the
only
problems I've had have been with the small ID connecting hoses.
***************
I have considered that. I would hate to tear into a brand new engine on
my
own. And since Sears warranty was useless, that is how I would have to do
it. It has enough warm-up time on it now, that any newness should be
passed. It has had 4 oil changes, with less than 2.5 hours running time.
Once it is running, no problems. Starting fluid would be the easiest
method
to start it, but that is really tough on engines.


The starting fluid that I use says it has lubricant added to avoid damage to
engines at startup. Wouldn't that help?

Tom G.

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Starting fluid would be the easiest method to start it, but that is really
tough on engines.
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The starting fluid that I use says it has lubricant added to avoid damage
to
engines at startup. Wouldn't that help?

Tom G.
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My understanding is starting fluid can cause extremely high combustion
chamber pressures. This can damage the head or rod or valves.



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"Tom G" wrote:
The starting fluid that I use says it has lubricant added to avoid
damage
to engines at startup. Wouldn't that help?

Not if you spray too much. Ever hear the valves rattle from it?

Can you post the model and serial numbers off this engine ?