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simon garfield 06-10-2007 05:56 PM

ravens attacking lawn and leaving patches
 
first off i am new here so hi to all.

I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with, over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.

My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening, and what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches, reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.

hi to all again and hope to hear from you

[email protected] 07-10-2007 03:29 PM

ravens attacking lawn and leaving patches
 
On Oct 6, 12:56 pm, simon garfield simon.garfield.
wrote:
first off i am new here so hi to all.

I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with,
over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my
lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the
place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.

My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening,


Having animals tear up turf is indeed a classic sign of grubs. If you
want to kill the grubs now, per Steveo's advice, Dylox is the
recommended agent. Next year, apply one of the season long grub
controls. Or if you want to go the organic route, you can try
nematodes, though I think they take a couple seasons to be effective.


and
what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches,
reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.


Impossible to answer without knowing climate where you're located or
how many of these spots you have covering what size area, etc.
Guessing and it sounds like you're in the UK, so you probably can
still seed. Normally, I'd use a slice seeder for any larger work,
but if the turf has limited roots, that would probably do more damage
to the grass that's left, so I'd probably do it by hand.




hi to all again and hope to hear from you

--
simon garfield




[email protected] 07-10-2007 11:16 PM

ravens attacking lawn and leaving patches
 
wrote:
On Oct 6, 12:56 pm, simon garfield simon.garfield.
wrote:
first off i am new here so hi to all.

I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with,
over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my
lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the
place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.

My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening,


Having animals tear up turf is indeed a classic sign of grubs. If you
want to kill the grubs now, per Steveo's advice, Dylox is the
recommended agent. Next year, apply one of the season long grub
controls. Or if you want to go the organic route, you can try
nematodes, though I think they take a couple seasons to be effective.


and
what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches,
reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.


Impossible to answer without knowing climate where you're located or
how many of these spots you have covering what size area, etc.
Guessing and it sounds like you're in the UK, so you probably can
still seed. Normally, I'd use a slice seeder for any larger work,
but if the turf has limited roots, that would probably do more damage
to the grass that's left, so I'd probably do it by hand.



hi to all again and hope to hear from you

--
simon garfield



But then aren't you poisoning the crows too?

Helen R 08-10-2007 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon garfield (Post 752558)
first off i am new here so hi to all.

I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with, over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.

My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening, and what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches, reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.

hi to all again and hope to hear from you

Hi Simon

The ravens are most likely to be digging for chafer grubs or leatherjackets (daddy long legs grubs). You can treat before the end of october with a nematode which will usually kill the grubs within 2 or 3 weeks. You may need to retreat next season as well

The damage can be repaired either with turf or by overseeding. Seed will still germinate before winter, but if the temperatures are consistently below 12 degrees C then you'd be best waiting until spring to overseed.

Eggs Zachtly 08-10-2007 12:36 AM

ravens attacking lawn and leaving patches
 
said:

wrote:
On Oct 6, 12:56 pm, simon garfield simon.garfield.
wrote:
first off i am new here so hi to all.

I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with,
over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my
lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the
place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.

My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening,


Having animals tear up turf is indeed a classic sign of grubs. If you
want to kill the grubs now, per Steveo's advice, Dylox is the
recommended agent. Next year, apply one of the season long grub
controls. Or if you want to go the organic route, you can try
nematodes, though I think they take a couple seasons to be effective.

and
what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches,
reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.


Impossible to answer without knowing climate where you're located or
how many of these spots you have covering what size area, etc.
Guessing and it sounds like you're in the UK, so you probably can
still seed. Normally, I'd use a slice seeder for any larger work,
but if the turf has limited roots, that would probably do more damage
to the grass that's left, so I'd probably do it by hand.

hi to all again and hope to hear from you

--
simon garfield


But then aren't you poisoning the crows too?


No.

--

Eggs

How can there be self-help "groups"?

[email protected] 08-10-2007 04:43 PM

ravens attacking lawn and leaving patches
 
On Oct 7, 7:10 pm, Helen R wrote:
simon garfield;752558 Wrote:

first off i am new here so hi to all.


I have a question that i hope some of you might be able to help with,
over the past few days, it looks like ravens, have been attacking my
lawn leaving hugh patches of grass torn up and scatered all over the
place. I believe this is because they are after grubs of some sort.


My question is does anyone know of a way to prevent this happening, and
what would be the best course of action to replace the bare patches,
reseed or place turf in the holes as some are at least 90 sqr cm.


hi to all again and hope to hear from you


Hi Simon

The ravens are most likely to be digging for 'chafer grubs'
(http://tinyurl.com/ynsfty) or 'leatherjackets'
(http://tinyurl.com/25xavh) (daddy long legs grubs). You can treat
before the end of october with a nematode which will usually kill the
grubs within 2 or 3 weeks. You may need to retreat next season as well

The damage can be repaired either with turf or by overseeding. Seed
will still germinate before winter, but if the temperatures are
consistently below 12 degrees C then you'd be best waiting until spring
to overseed.

--
Helen R



I'm no expert on using nematodes to kill grubs, but from what I think
is correct, I see a couple of problems with this.

Nematodes are most effective when the grubs are still very small,
which would have been a couple months ago, like Jul/Aug. Second, if
he's having extensive turf damage from animals right now, he's looking
at 2-3 weeks of more damage, unitl the nematodes work, if they will
work at all this late in season. While I think nematodes can be fine
for prevention, I think at this stage, he needs something quick and
powerful, ie insecticide.


simon garfield 09-10-2007 06:35 PM

thanks for some very good advice, you have given me somewhere to start. lets hope we can solve this.


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