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Srgnt Billko 08-10-2007 02:24 AM

Push button starter
 
I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one is
not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the starter
out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I want to replace
is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to put in was started by
push button which was wired direct - battery to switch, switch to starter.
I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17 at NAPA) and was planning to make
a mount for it. But now I'm thinking instead of running battery cables to
and from the switch, I should be thinking about installing a starter
solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt
tractors. Any thoughts ?



xPosTech[_2_] 08-10-2007 02:42 AM

Push button starter
 
On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one is
not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the starter
out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I want to replace
is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to put in was started by
push button which was wired direct - battery to switch, switch to starter.
I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17 at NAPA) and was planning to make
a mount for it. But now I'm thinking instead of running battery cables to
and from the switch, I should be thinking about installing a starter
solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt
tractors. Any thoughts ?


Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com

--
Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could


If you never try anything new, you'll miss out on many of life's great
disappointments.

xPosTech[_2_] 08-10-2007 03:18 AM

Push button starter
 
On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:
On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I
want to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to
put in was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to
switch, switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17
at NAPA) and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm
thinking instead of running battery cables to and from the switch, I
should be thinking about installing a starter solenoid - but it would
have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any
thoughts ?


Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com

Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link
above to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #.
I took a quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can
guarantee they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a
carb rebuild kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could


If you never try anything new, you'll miss out on many of life's great
disappointments.

Srgnt Billko 08-10-2007 05:20 AM

Push button starter
 

"xPosTech" wrote in message
...
On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:
On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I want
to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to put in
was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to switch,
switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17 at NAPA)
and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm thinking instead
of running battery cables to and from the switch, I should be thinking
about installing a starter solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy
duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any thoughts ?


Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com

Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link above
to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #. I took a
quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can guarantee
they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a carb rebuild
kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted


I checked the TSC catalogue and saw all kinds of tractor parts - except no
solenoid. NAPA's site shows a bunch of heavy duty solenoids but 12 or 24
volt (no 6 volt) and they ran $70 to $100. Maybe I better go back to
converting these suckers from 6 to 12 volt like I've threatened to do for a
couple years..



xPosTech[_2_] 08-10-2007 02:27 PM

Push button starter
 
On 10/7/2007 11:20 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
"xPosTech" wrote in message
...
On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:
On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I want
to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to put in
was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to switch,
switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17 at NAPA)
and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm thinking instead
of running battery cables to and from the switch, I should be thinking
about installing a starter solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy
duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any thoughts ?


Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com

Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link above
to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #. I took a
quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can guarantee
they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a carb rebuild
kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted


I checked the TSC catalogue and saw all kinds of tractor parts - except no
solenoid. NAPA's site shows a bunch of heavy duty solenoids but 12 or 24
volt (no 6 volt) and they ran $70 to $100. Maybe I better go back to
converting these suckers from 6 to 12 volt like I've threatened to do for a
couple years..


They are still living in the physical not online store world. They do
have 6V solenoids but I agree it would probably be best to go ahead and
convert. We did it back in the 19 and 50s when dropping v8s into early
chevys. The wiring is plenty big enough to handle 12v (half the
current) and we replaced the lights as they blew. The 6v starter will
work for quite a while, too (it'll spin up /really/ fast) if it starts
easily. Just keep cranking time short.

Good luck either way you decide to go.

--
Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could


"How hard can it be?" -Kinky Friedman

Willshak 08-10-2007 02:51 PM

Push button starter
 
on 10/8/2007 12:20 AM Srgnt Billko said the following:
"xPosTech" wrote in message
...

On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:

On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:

I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I want
to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to put in
was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to switch,
switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17 at NAPA)
and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm thinking instead
of running battery cables to and from the switch, I should be thinking
about installing a starter solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy
duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any thoughts ?



Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com


Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link above
to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #. I took a
quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can guarantee
they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a carb rebuild
kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted


I checked the TSC catalogue and saw all kinds of tractor parts - except no
solenoid. NAPA's site shows a bunch of heavy duty solenoids but 12 or 24
volt (no 6 volt) and they ran $70 to $100. Maybe I better go back to
converting these suckers from 6 to 12 volt like I've threatened to do for a
couple years..


Will anything here help?
http://farmalltractorparts.com/ihcar...i?code=3&cat=6


--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Srgnt Billko 08-10-2007 06:10 PM

Push button starter
 
BINGO !! And the switches were cheaper too !!

T/Y

"willshak" wrote in message
...
on 10/8/2007 12:20 AM Srgnt Billko said the following:
"xPosTech" wrote in message
...

On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:

On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:

I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I
want to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to
put in was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to
switch, switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17
at NAPA) and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm
thinking instead of running battery cables to and from the switch, I
should be thinking about installing a starter solenoid - but it would
have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any
thoughts ?



Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com


Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link
above to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #. I
took a quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can
guarantee they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a
carb rebuild kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted


I checked the TSC catalogue and saw all kinds of tractor parts - except
no solenoid. NAPA's site shows a bunch of heavy duty solenoids but 12 or
24 volt (no 6 volt) and they ran $70 to $100. Maybe I better go back to
converting these suckers from 6 to 12 volt like I've threatened to do for
a couple years..


Will anything here help?
http://farmalltractorparts.com/ihcar...i?code=3&cat=6

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @




Mel M Kelly 08-10-2007 09:08 PM

Push button starter
 
If that switch you got looks like a old dimmer switch in older cars you
don't need a solenode wire it direct and it should work. It should have
large lugs on it for battery cable, if so wire it direct.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids


Srgnt Billko 08-10-2007 11:48 PM

Push button starter
 

"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
If that switch you got looks like a old dimmer switch in older cars you
don't need a solenode wire it direct and it should work. It should have
large lugs on it for battery cable, if so wire it direct.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley


It is like the old dimmer switch but as I wrote in my original post:

"But now I'm thinking instead of running battery cables to
and from the switch, I should be thinking about installing a starter
solenoid - but it would have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt
tractors. "

It's 3' from the starter to where the switch will have to mount and another
2' from the switch to the battery. That's a lot of battery cable - and
since all the newer stuff uses solenoids, it seems like it should be a
consideration when changing thngs around.



xPosTech[_2_] 08-10-2007 11:55 PM

Push button starter
 
On 10/8/2007 12:10 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:
BINGO !! And the switches were cheaper too !!

T/Y

"willshak" wrote in message
...
on 10/8/2007 12:20 AM Srgnt Billko said the following:
"xPosTech" wrote in message
...

On 10/7/2007 8:42 PM, xPosTech wrote:

On 10/7/2007 8:24 PM, Srgnt Billko wrote:

I have 2 old Farmall tractors (actually 4 but two in particular) - one
is not running. The other has a starter problem. I want to take the
starter out of the 1st and put it in the 2nd. Trouble is the one I
want to replace is mechanical lever energized and the one I want to
put in was started by push button which was wired direct - battery to
switch, switch to starter. I bought a new heavy duty push button ($17
at NAPA) and was planning to make a mount for it. But now I'm
thinking instead of running battery cables to and from the switch, I
should be thinking about installing a starter solenoid - but it would
have to be real heavy duty cause these are 6 volt tractors. Any
thoughts ?



Tractor Supply

http://www.mytscstore.com


Sarge

I just remembered how convoluted the TSC web site was. Use the link
above to locate the store nearest you and get the address and phone #. I
took a quick peek at the site and didn't see any solenoids, but can
guarantee they carry both 12v and 6v solenoids (and you can pickup a
carb rebuild kit or two while you're there).

The Farmall (Model B) I had didn't have a solenoid on it. No lights or
starter either, but would start on the first 'push' of the crank almost
every time.

--
Ted

I checked the TSC catalogue and saw all kinds of tractor parts - except
no solenoid. NAPA's site shows a bunch of heavy duty solenoids but 12 or
24 volt (no 6 volt) and they ran $70 to $100. Maybe I better go back to
converting these suckers from 6 to 12 volt like I've threatened to do for
a couple years..

Will anything here help?
http://farmalltractorparts.com/ihcar...i?code=3&cat=6

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
To email, remove the double zeroes after @



Hey Sarge

Here's another source for old tractor parts if you need any in the
future. Check'em out.

Regards
--
Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could


Good judgment comes from experience,
and experience comes from bad judgment.
--Fred Brook


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