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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I have? I
bought my house a few years ago and there are two rose bushes in the back
yard which never really bloomed until we removed an incredibly overgrown
mass of honeysuckle vines that had basically taken them over. These two
bushes were about 7 feet tall when we removed the honeysuckle, and through
pruning here and there we got them to bloom several times during the summer.
After deadheading, they developed more buds, but the bushes continued to
shoot way up -- I think they're almost 9 feet tall now. Are these roses
climbers since they're so tall? If so, I'd like to put in a trellis and let
them naturally grow into a vine, but I'm not sure how to start. If I prune
them back in the spring, will they grow to be as tall as they are now so I
can train them to use a trellis? One of the bushes grows up from one thick
woody cane, maybe 2 inches in diameter, that branches into a Y at about 10
inches tall and several more canes grow from each side of the Y. I'd like
to prune it back, but I'm not sure how far since the bottom of the bush is
just the one woody cane and the bottoms of theY sections are woody also.
The other bush has a bunch of woody canes and a number of smaller canes,
some thinner than a pencil and some thicker (I think some may be suckers).
Any advice for me? I don't want to kill these bushes because they're the
only roses I have. Thanks in advance!


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Old 23-04-2003, 02:32 PM
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On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 11:21:37 -0500, "Natty_Dread"
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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I have?


You can't get credible guidance online. A knowledgable person would
have to see the plants and what condition they are in, in order to
point you in the right direction. I think your best bet would be to
contact your local Rose Society. If there isn't one close by check
with some of the garden clubs.

zhan

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"Natty_Dread" wrote in message
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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I have? I
bought my house a few years ago and there are two rose bushes in the back
yard which never really bloomed until we removed an incredibly overgrown
mass of honeysuckle vines that had basically taken them over. These two
bushes were about 7 feet tall when we removed the honeysuckle, and through
pruning here and there we got them to bloom several times during the

summer.
After deadheading, they developed more buds, but the bushes continued to
shoot way up -- I think they're almost 9 feet tall now. Are these roses
climbers since they're so tall? If so, I'd like to put in a trellis and

let
them naturally grow into a vine, but I'm not sure how to start. If I

prune
them back in the spring, will they grow to be as tall as they are now so I
can train them to use a trellis? One of the bushes grows up from one

thick
woody cane, maybe 2 inches in diameter, that branches into a Y at about 10
inches tall and several more canes grow from each side of the Y. I'd like
to prune it back, but I'm not sure how far since the bottom of the bush is
just the one woody cane and the bottoms of theY sections are woody also.
The other bush has a bunch of woody canes and a number of smaller canes,
some thinner than a pencil and some thicker (I think some may be suckers).
Any advice for me? I don't want to kill these bushes because they're the
only roses I have. Thanks in advance!


Go to the American Rose Society's webpage, www.ars.org/ and look up a
Consulting Rosarian in your area. They will come to your home free of charge
and give you a personalized consultation. They may can help to rejevenate
your overgrown rose, but it may be impossible to identify which rose it is
unless it is common.

Sunflower
MS 7b




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"Sunflower" wrote:
"Natty_Dread" wrote in message
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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I have?
I bought my house a few years ago and there are two rose bushes in the
back yard which never really bloomed until we removed an incredibly
overgrown mass of honeysuckle vines that had basically taken them over.
These two bushes were about 7 feet tall when we removed the
honeysuckle, and through pruning here and there we got them to bloom
several times during the

summer.
After deadheading, they developed more buds, but the bushes continued
to shoot way up -- I think they're almost 9 feet tall now. Are these
roses climbers since they're so tall? If so, I'd like to put in a
trellis and

let
them naturally grow into a vine, but I'm not sure how to start. If I

prune
them back in the spring, will they grow to be as tall as they are now
so I can train them to use a trellis? One of the bushes grows up from
one

thick
woody cane, maybe 2 inches in diameter, that branches into a Y at about
10 inches tall and several more canes grow from each side of the Y.
I'd like to prune it back, but I'm not sure how far since the bottom of
the bush is just the one woody cane and the bottoms of theY sections
are woody also. The other bush has a bunch of woody canes and a number
of smaller canes, some thinner than a pencil and some thicker (I think
some may be suckers). Any advice for me? I don't want to kill these
bushes because they're the only roses I have. Thanks in advance!


Go to the American Rose Society's webpage, www.ars.org/ and look up a
Consulting Rosarian in your area. They will come to your home free of
charge and give you a personalized consultation. They may can help to
rejevenate your overgrown rose, but it may be impossible to identify
which rose it is unless it is common.

There may be a waiting list..

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wrote in message
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"Sunflower" wrote:
"Natty_Dread" wrote in message
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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I

have?
I bought my house a few years ago and there are two rose bushes in the
back yard which never really bloomed until we removed an incredibly
overgrown mass of honeysuckle vines that had basically taken them

over.
These two bushes were about 7 feet tall when we removed the
honeysuckle, and through pruning here and there we got them to bloom
several times during the

summer.
After deadheading, they developed more buds, but the bushes continued
to shoot way up -- I think they're almost 9 feet tall now. Are these
roses climbers since they're so tall? If so, I'd like to put in a
trellis and

let
them naturally grow into a vine, but I'm not sure how to start. If I

prune
them back in the spring, will they grow to be as tall as they are now
so I can train them to use a trellis? One of the bushes grows up from
one

thick
woody cane, maybe 2 inches in diameter, that branches into a Y at

about
10 inches tall and several more canes grow from each side of the Y.
I'd like to prune it back, but I'm not sure how far since the bottom

of
the bush is just the one woody cane and the bottoms of theY sections
are woody also. The other bush has a bunch of woody canes and a number
of smaller canes, some thinner than a pencil and some thicker (I think
some may be suckers). Any advice for me? I don't want to kill these
bushes because they're the only roses I have. Thanks in advance!


Go to the American Rose Society's webpage, www.ars.org/ and look up a
Consulting Rosarian in your area. They will come to your home free of
charge and give you a personalized consultation. They may can help to
rejevenate your overgrown rose, but it may be impossible to identify
which rose it is unless it is common.



There may be a waiting list..


Depending on what part of the country the OP is in, yes, the CR's may take a
couple of days to respond, but unless the OP is in CA or other rose heavy
heavens, then the number of people requesting the service is quite small.
This is a greatly underutilized service that needs to be more widely known.
Also, for anyone who is interested in growing more than just a couple of
roses, the ARS's monthly magazine, The American Rose, is a great source of
information. It's free with the $38 annual membership, and there's lots of
magazines out there that don't come with the additional benefits that
Society membership offers. Like free admission to many botanical gardens.

Sunflower
MS 7b




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"Sunflower" wrote:
"Natty_Dread" wrote in message
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Hi all -- Can anyone tell me how to identify what type of roses I

have?
I bought my house a few years ago and there are two rose bushes in
the back yard which never really bloomed until we removed an
incredibly overgrown mass of honeysuckle vines that had basically
taken them

over.
These two bushes were about 7 feet tall when we removed the
honeysuckle, and through pruning here and there we got them to
bloom several times during the
summer.
After deadheading, they developed more buds, but the bushes
continued to shoot way up -- I think they're almost 9 feet tall
now. Are these roses climbers since they're so tall? If so, I'd
like to put in a trellis and
let
them naturally grow into a vine, but I'm not sure how to start. If
I
prune
them back in the spring, will they grow to be as tall as they are
now so I can train them to use a trellis? One of the bushes grows
up from one
thick
woody cane, maybe 2 inches in diameter, that branches into a Y at

about
10 inches tall and several more canes grow from each side of the Y.
I'd like to prune it back, but I'm not sure how far since the
bottom

of
the bush is just the one woody cane and the bottoms of theY
sections are woody also. The other bush has a bunch of woody canes
and a number of smaller canes, some thinner than a pencil and some
thicker (I think some may be suckers). Any advice for me? I don't
want to kill these bushes because they're the only roses I have.
Thanks in advance!

Go to the American Rose Society's webpage, www.ars.org/ and look up a
Consulting Rosarian in your area. They will come to your home free of
charge and give you a personalized consultation. They may can help
to rejevenate your overgrown rose, but it may be impossible to
identify which rose it is unless it is common.



There may be a waiting list..


Depending on what part of the country the OP is in, yes, the CR's may
take a couple of days to respond, but unless the OP is in CA or other
rose heavy heavens, then the number of people requesting the service is
quite small. This is a greatly underutilized service that needs to be
more widely known. Also, for anyone who is interested in growing more
than just a couple of roses, the ARS's monthly magazine, The American
Rose, is a great source of information. It's free with the $38 annual
membership, and there's lots of magazines out there that don't come with
the additional benefits that Society membership offers. Like free
admission to many botanical gardens.

Does it come with fungicide coupons? g

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This is probably and "OLD ROSE" or antique rose. These are the ones you
see growing near abandoned houses, and blooming under all the tangled
undergrowth. Antique Rose Emporium in Brenham, TX could probably help
identify if you e-mail a picture with your inquiry. Also Texas A&M
horticulture department is interested in these "OLD ROSES"

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