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I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr
mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red |
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Red wrote:
I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Both are pieces of crap. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. -- Art |
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On Jan 14, 7:01*pm, Art wrote:
Both are pieces of crap. Why? Bear in mind the mower will be used on a single yard only and not commercially. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. That's why I asked the question. Buying more mower than I need for the job is throwing away money also. Is a Lexus better than a Chevy? Yeah, but the Chevy will get me to Walmart and back just as many times. Red |
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"Art" wrote in message ... Red wrote: I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Both are pieces of crap. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. -- Art Please give us reasons why. And what would you consider a "decent machine"? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"Chas Hurst" wrote in message . .. "Art" wrote in message ... Red wrote: I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Both are pieces of crap. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. -- Art Please give us reasons why. MTD |
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"KingFish" wrote in message ... "Chas Hurst" wrote in message . .. "Art" wrote in message ... Red wrote: I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Both are pieces of crap. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. -- Art Please give us reasons why. MTD So what is a decent machine? You answered only half my question. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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scag , dixie chopper, woods,grasshopper are good heavy
built ztrs . the cheep mtd sheet metal ones are really dissapointing . go ahead and get one, i hope it works out for you..guy that works on them,lucas ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm |
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On Jan 15, 9:07*am, wrote:
* * * * * * *scag , dixie chopper, woods,grasshopper are good heavy built ztrs . the cheep mtd sheet metal ones are really dissapointing . You are still not answering the questions. What problems do MTD have that the others you mentioned don't have? Are they being misused as commercial machines rather than residential? If you work on them surely you can tell. Red |
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mtd has cheeper pump drive system, sheet metal construction . just
cheeper less reliable construction overall.go ahead and buy one dude , but dont expect commercial quality life of the unit...lucas ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.minibite.com/america/malone.htm |
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on 1/14/2009 10:16 AM (ET) Red wrote the following:
I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Between those two choices, and the fact that your acre is flat, I would say 1 HP isn't much of a difference. I have a hilly acre and my 18 hp tractor does fine. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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on 1/14/2009 8:01 PM (ET) Art wrote the following:
Red wrote: I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red Both are pieces of crap. Don't throw away your money, buy a decent machine. Are they worse than Murray was? I have had two Murray tractors in the 24 years I have lived here. I'm still using the second one that is 10 or so years old and it is used year round mowing and snow blowing. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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On Jan 16, 4:00*pm, willshak wrote:
Between those two choices, and the fact that your acre is flat, I would say 1 HP isn't much of a difference. I have a hilly acre and my 18 hp tractor does fine. -- Thanks for the reply. That was my original thought also. I've been using a 10hp Craftsman mower on the lot for about 14 years with no problems. I just don't know how much hp it takes to drive both pumps and the blades. More than a standard mower I'm sure. But since it's flat turf with no tall weeds, and residential which the mower is designed for, I'm thinking 1hp is probably inconsequencial. I'm sure many people going into the lawn care business for the first time may buy one because it's cheap, then wear it out fast and call it crap. That's the point I was trying to make with other posters. Red |
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KC wrote:
On Jan 14, 7:01 pm, Art wrote: Both are pieces of crap. Why? Bear in mind the mower will be used on a single yard only and not commercially. MTD builds crap. I don't know why, you'd have to ask them. Parts are thin stamped steel, bearings are poor quality, shafts are of minimal diameter, blades are thin and not heat treated, tires from China. Every part they use is absolutely the cheapest thing they can source. There is also something to be said for the availability of things like a mulcher, bagger or other towables or push attachments. MTD hasn't got much and what they do have is usually ill-fitting and flimsy. Often replacement parts for attachments are not available at all. I suggest you take a look at a couple of homeowner models of Hustler, Dixie Chopper, Snapper or whatever is available down at your local power equipment store. There you can see the difference. Compare the weights of the machine and the quality of the parts. Kick the tires even. I realize you don't need a commercial machine but I'd think you'd want the best bang for your buck and that is rarely found with the cheapest product available. You may wind up with an MTD in the end but at least you should know what else is out there. -- Art |
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On Jan 16, 7:59*pm, Art wrote:
KC wrote: On Jan 14, 7:01 pm, Art wrote: Both are pieces of crap. Why? *Bear in mind the mower will be used on a single yard only and not commercially. MTD builds crap. I don't know why, you'd have to ask them. Parts are thin stamped steel, bearings are poor quality, shafts are of minimal diameter, blades are thin and not heat treated, tires from China. Every part they use is absolutely the cheapest thing they can source. There is also something to be said for the availability of things like a mulcher, bagger or other towables or push attachments. MTD hasn't got much and what they do have is usually ill-fitting and flimsy. Often replacement parts for attachments are not available at all. I suggest you take a look at a couple of homeowner models of Hustler, Dixie Chopper, Snapper or whatever is available down at your local power equipment store. There you can see the difference. Compare the weights of the machine and the quality of the parts. Kick the tires even. I realize you don't need a commercial machine but I'd think you'd want the best bang for your buck and that is rarely found with the cheapest product available. You may wind up with an MTD in the end but at least you should know what else is out there. -- Art Thanks. Now that is a very informative reply. I will now be checking out other models. Red |
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Red wrote:
I've got a flat 1 acre lot and am considering getting a smaller ztr mower. I just compared the cub cadet and troy bilt 42" mowers and found that they are made by the same company (MTD) and virtually identical except for 1hp difference in the Kohler engine. Even most parts are interchangeable. Well, maybe the cub cadet has a few minor niceities. So my question is: is the cub cadets 1 extra hp (20 vs 19) and a few minor features worth the $300 price difference or is it paying for name recognition only? Yeah, I know the Kawasaki engine is better but they only come on the larger size mowers. Red So far the best constructed and dependable ztr is commercial John Deere. It is a real Deere and not a rebadged MTD. They are pricey at around 7 grand. You get a good ride and with Gator blades you don't have to rake up the grass. Your Grand kids may wear it out but you probably won't live that long. Mowing the lawn is not just a chore when you have the right equipment. |
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