I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:27:48 -0400, Clarkky...
wrote:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


Lawn sand, £5 from B & Q, does 135mts. Have to rake it after ten days or
so.

MO Bacter, £35 from classic-lawns.co.uk, does 200 mts. No raking (^_^)


Steven
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www.baldman.org.uk

Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic loving
groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

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"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
...
willshak said:

Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned
about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded
by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic loving
groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

Nope. We've plenty of grass growing under pines. Keep the needles raked
up, and
adjust the pH accordingly (lime like hell should do it).
--

Eggs

Hey Eggs,
Do you actually check the PH or "wing" it?
most of the moss is not directly under the trees but it is in the general
direction of the rain runoff
I can picture myself having to buy a pallet of lime, my front "yard" is 247'
X 80'
Clarkky...

"willshak" wrote in message
...
Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned
about, it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded
by pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...

The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic loving
groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

--
Actually directly under my pines is just about nothing, these pines are 100
ft tall
and I have tried acid loving plants, they are dying slowly...
but the lawn is not directly under those trees, the trees I have on the
frontage of the property is
Birch and Maples.

Clarkky...

willshak said:

Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic loving
groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

Nope. We've plenty of grass growing under pines. Keep the needles raked up, and
adjust the pH accordingly (lime like hell should do it).
--

Eggs

If you can read this, you've just wasted your time on reading the sentence 'If
you read this, you've just wasted your time on reading the sentence' - Twice!

On Apr 1, 9:54*am, Steven Wayne wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:27:48 -0400, Clarkky...
* * * * wrote:

I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...

Lawn sand, £5 from B & Q, does 135mts. Have to rake it after ten days or
so.

MO Bacter, £35 from classic-lawns.co.uk, does 200 mts. No raking (^_^)

Steven
--
You're a great friend, but if the zombies chase us I'm tripping you.

www.baldman.org.uk

I think you all need to buy some weed killer.That should take care of
all problems

"gerredmiser" wrote in message
...
On Apr 1, 9:54 am, Steven Wayne wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:27:48 -0400, Clarkky...
wrote:

I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned
about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded
by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...

Lawn sand, £5 from B & Q, does 135mts. Have to rake it after ten days or
so.

MO Bacter, £35 from classic-lawns.co.uk, does 200 mts. No raking (^_^)

Steven
--
You're a great friend, but if the zombies chase us I'm tripping you.

www.baldman.org.uk

I think you all need to buy some weed killer.That should take care of
all problems

and then I can water my dirt every couple days, LOL..
Clarkky...

Clarkky... said:

"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
...
willshak said:

Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned
about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am surrounded
by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic loving
groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

Nope. We've plenty of grass growing under pines. Keep the needles raked
up, and
adjust the pH accordingly (lime like hell should do it).
--

Eggs

Hey Eggs,
Do you actually check the PH or "wing" it?

Check it, d00d. Home test kits are cheap, or you can take several samples from
an area of the yard, and take them to your local co-op. They'll give you the
results (probably for a nominal fee), telling you exactly what to put down, and
what quantities.

Won't do much long-term good if you don't keep up with the removal of the pine
straw.

most of the moss is not directly under the trees but it is in the general
direction of the rain runoff
I can picture myself having to buy a pallet of lime, my front "yard" is 247'
X 80'

Yup. It just might take that much, *if* you have to treat the whole yard. The
whole yard might not need it, though. Break the yard up into areas, take samples
from each area, combine the samples from each specific area in a baggie, and
take it to get tested. That's definately got to be the first thing you do.
There's no sense in guessing what you need in your yard, when the facilities are
available to tell you exactly what you need.

I'd get the testing done pretty soon, also. The optimal time to apply lime is
the fall. EARLY spring works, but the sooner, the better. And, keep in mind that
it's not a permanent fix. If you can bring the pH to 6.5, *and* you keep up with
the pine straw removal diligently, you can expect to repeat the treatment every
4-5 years. So, the cost factor goes up. It's all in how bad you really want a
lawn that will compete with your pine trees.

If it were me, I'd plant shrubs, ferns, and other plants that thrive in
high-acid environments. You'd have the potential to have a pretty cool yard
which doesn't necessarily have to contain a large "lawn" area. Designate
certain, smaller sections to turf (which will be easier on the wallet), and make
other areas landscape beds with appropriate plantings (and maybe hardscape
features (rocks, boulders, a dry creek, etc). Something to think about. =)

--

Eggs

APATHY ERROR: Don't bother striking any key.

Eggs Zachtly wrote:
Clarkky... said:

"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
...
willshak said:

Clarkky... wrote the following:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm
concerned about,
it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am
surrounded by
pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...


The only thing that grows under pine trees is moss, or an acidic
loving groundcover.
The third option is mulch.
Grass seed won't grow and sod may not take root and will die.
Google - grass under pine trees

Nope. We've plenty of grass growing under pines. Keep the needles
raked up, and
adjust the pH accordingly (lime like hell should do it).
--

Eggs

Hey Eggs,
Do you actually check the PH or "wing" it?

Check it, d00d. Home test kits are cheap, or you can take several
samples from an area of the yard, and take them to your local co-op.
They'll give you the results (probably for a nominal fee), telling
you exactly what to put down, and what quantities.

Won't do much long-term good if you don't keep up with the removal of
the pine straw.

most of the moss is not directly under the trees but it is in the
general direction of the rain runoff
I can picture myself having to buy a pallet of lime, my front "yard"
is 247' X 80'

Yup. It just might take that much, *if* you have to treat the whole
yard. The whole yard might not need it, though. Break the yard up
into areas, take samples from each area, combine the samples from
each specific area in a baggie, and take it to get tested. That's
definately got to be the first thing you do. There's no sense in
guessing what you need in your yard, when the facilities are
available to tell you exactly what you need.

I'd get the testing done pretty soon, also. The optimal time to apply
lime is the fall. EARLY spring works, but the sooner, the better.
And, keep in mind that it's not a permanent fix. If you can bring the
pH to 6.5, *and* you keep up with the pine straw removal diligently,
you can expect to repeat the treatment every 4-5 years. So, the cost
factor goes up. It's all in how bad you really want a lawn that will
compete with your pine trees.

If it were me, I'd plant shrubs, ferns, and other plants that thrive
in high-acid environments. You'd have the potential to have a pretty
cool yard which doesn't necessarily have to contain a large "lawn"
area. Designate certain, smaller sections to turf (which will be
easier on the wallet), and make other areas landscape beds with
appropriate plantings (and maybe hardscape features (rocks, boulders,
a dry creek, etc). Something to think about. =)

I will take pic's ugh I think only grass will look right,
and Egg's just for you I load OE quote fix on this PC, (I had forgotten
about it)

Clarkky...

Clarkky... wrote:
I have moss lots of it, but the front yard is the part I'm concerned
about, it's like shag carpet!
anything I should do besides lime the crap out of it?
I know drainage is a cause too but I think it drains OK, I am
surrounded by pine trees also
I suppose I could have it removed and put turf down but I'm CHEAP.
Clarkky...

Ferrous Sulphate (rid-moss) is the commonly sold moss killer.