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How to get rid of yellow jacket bee's nest ??
On Sep 5, 2:42*am, notbob wrote:
On 2010-09-05, wrote: Bees, other than carpenter bees, yes, live and let live. * Since I've moved to CO, I've encountered some bizarre species of wasps/YJs/bees. *Howzabout a wasp the size of a bumblebee and colored like a holstein cow and furry! *Or lil' bitty bees no bigger'n a small house fly nesting in an old decorative log. *I've seen a wasp the size of a mosquito. *Didn't know if it was a separate speies or jes an infant wasp. *Whatever the reason, CO elevation seems to be enviornment numero uno for weird winged stingy things. My wife doesn't fare well with bee stings, but it's not that critical, or at least hasn't been. I once thought I was allergic. *Now think I'm not. *when some stingy thingie gets me, the pain is nonexistent to tolerable and only lasts a day at most. *The real problem is the itching. *Last sting, I itched so badly for 3 wks, I wanted to chop my foot off! nb The tiny wasps probably are mud-daubers. They fill any available tiny hole to put their larvae in. |
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On Sun, 5 Sep 2010 07:51:46 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Walmart has something with that name on the box. Knowing our EPA, it is probably confectioners sugar, though. I said that because one of the morning drive talkers has the county extension services representative on every Friday. Recently they were talking about "Army Worm" infestations. Apparently Seven is the only treatment for it and he said it was now only available in liquid form, which is expensive for this use. |
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How to get rid of yellow jacket bee's nest ??
On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:17:02 -0500, dpb wrote:
wrote: ... I said that because one of the morning drive talkers has the county extension services representative on every Friday. Recently they were talking about "Army Worm" infestations. Apparently Seven is the only treatment for it and he said it was now only available in liquid form, which is expensive for this use. Would need to know for what application was referring to--if was ag application, Sevin isn't generally used at all so presume must have been for garden/turf/lawn applications. This was for lawn use. He also said that Sevin was far too expensive for ag use. Again, afaik, Sevin is still a non-RUP (restricted-use pesticide) easily obtained at any retail outlet. That's not what he said. He did talk like it was a recent thing, though. For ag applications, it'll depend on whether they're army worms or army cutworms; they're similar name but different species and life cycles. http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/plantsci/pests/e830w.htm Cutworms can be an especial a problem in winter wheat and other cereal grains...they're one of our biggest worries every spring about what level of infestations we'll see. https://sites.aces.edu/group/homegro...4-85a79a4b328f |
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zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:17:02 -0500, dpb wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: ... .... Again, afaik, Sevin is still a non-RUP (restricted-use pesticide) easily obtained at any retail outlet. That's not what he said. He did talk like it was a recent thing, though. .... Must be so recent that Ace hasn't heard of it yet nor did a quick google return a hit about EPA and Sevin which would normally be expected to be about the most prominent topic to come up if it were a recent development... I suppose it could be something local or a pending thing, but it surely doesn't appear to be so at the moment afaict... https://sites.aces.edu/group/homegro...4-85a79a4b328f Which lists Sevin dust, too. -- |
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:44:54 -0500, dpb wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:17:02 -0500, dpb wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: ... ... Again, afaik, Sevin is still a non-RUP (restricted-use pesticide) easily obtained at any retail outlet. That's not what he said. He did talk like it was a recent thing, though. ... Must be so recent that Ace hasn't heard of it yet nor did a quick google return a hit about EPA and Sevin which would normally be expected to be about the most prominent topic to come up if it were a recent development... I suppose it could be something local or a pending thing, but it surely doesn't appear to be so at the moment afaict... https://sites.aces.edu/group/homegro...4-85a79a4b328f Which lists Sevin dust, too. It does, but the guy was on the radio in the last couple of weeks (he was talking about the Armyworms Friday, but don't remember the Sevin issue being brought up) saying that it is no longer available. It apparently is a very recent thing. Current supplies are allowed to be sold. |
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:02:09 -0500, "
wrote: On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:44:54 -0500, dpb wrote: wrote: On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:17:02 -0500, dpb wrote: zzzzzzzzzz wrote: ... ... Again, afaik, Sevin is still a non-RUP (restricted-use pesticide) easily obtained at any retail outlet. That's not what he said. He did talk like it was a recent thing, though. ... Must be so recent that Ace hasn't heard of it yet nor did a quick google return a hit about EPA and Sevin which would normally be expected to be about the most prominent topic to come up if it were a recent development... I suppose it could be something local or a pending thing, but it surely doesn't appear to be so at the moment afaict... https://sites.aces.edu/group/homegro...4-85a79a4b328f Which lists Sevin dust, too. It does, but the guy was on the radio in the last couple of weeks (he was talking about the Armyworms Friday, but don't remember the Sevin issue being brought up) saying that it is no longer available. It apparently is a very recent thing. Current supplies are allowed to be sold. OTOH, a web search brings up nothing relating to a ban on Sevin. Perhaps when we're out later I'll look to see if it's on the shelves. |
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:05:24 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2010-09-05, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: Ask your fire marshal about dumping gasoline on the ground and lighting it. Right after you ask yer mommy if you can come out and play. You would think about your mommy, nutjob. |
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James wrote:
I live in North Florida. There is a yellow jacket bee hive in a big clump of pampass grass (sawgrass), that I can't get rid of. I have used the long-shot Black Flag sprays, using a total of (3 ) 18 oz cans at one time, but I cannot get rid of the nest. The bees come right back to it. I used the long-shot spray method because of the danger of getting too close, but even that was risky, as I had to fight off many bees with the spray, as they were coming after me. My wife got stung 8 times while she was working near this spot, and that is how we first learned of it... Does anyone have any recommendations on how I can get rid of this nest ? The pampas grass is quite large, and I cannot see the actual nest, but dozens and dozens of bees continue to fly in and out of the plant, so I know it is in there somewhere. Please help !!! Thank you. James Tennis racket, you march to the den of death and dare them to come at you knowing "to the victor goes the spoils". Wear something with a tight collar they fight dirty when they go down your shirt. |
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How to get rid of yellow jacket bee's nest ??
On 9/5/10 12:04 AM, lil abner wrote:
There is a law that says you can't use fire to get rid of yellow jackets??? You don't use enough gasoline to fill a well. A quart or so is generally all it will take but I have seen a nest that was over 5 ft deep. Why light it? When you pour the gas down the hole, the fumes will displace the air, so the fire won't go down the hole. The soil will keep the heat away from the nest. I have found that the fumes from a tablespoon of gasoline will kill a nest. I imagine soil organisms can soon break down that small amount. |
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On 9/5/10 12:13 PM, dpb wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote: ... OTOH, a web search brings up nothing relating to a ban on Sevin. ... In addition, the new state licensed applicators' information packet I just received last month that I just looked at for to make certain says nothing regarding Sevin and there's been no mention of it in any notices or updates I've received this crop year regarding it, either. Those generally are front page as they are generic for all licensed applicators in the State, not just ag producers like me... One would have to know precisely what product for what application in what jurisdiction the report was referring to--it could be a municipal ban for lawn use in a local area or something but I'm quite certain it's not EPA-related nor national. Or, he could just have his facts wrong or misspoke in an interview meaning to refer to another product when his statement made it sound as though it was Sevin. Or, any of a limitless other possibilities, but I'm sure it's not an EPA mandate. -- http://www.epa.gov/EPA-PEST/2009/March/Day-18/p5695.htm Last year, manufacturers of Sevin and other carbaryl products voluntarily requested that the EPA terminate lots of uses for the stuff. The EPA didn't say why. Maybe the manufacturers want to open up a market for something at ten times the price. |
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J Burns wrote:
.... http://www.epa.gov/EPA-PEST/2009/March/Day-18/p5695.htm Last year, manufacturers of Sevin and other carbaryl products voluntarily requested that the EPA terminate lots of uses for the stuff. The EPA didn't say why. Maybe the manufacturers want to open up a market for something at ten times the price. Hmmm....interesting it didn't show up in the RUP updates I get from State same. Perhaps their generation notices that are pretty clearly auto-generated aren't geared to find stuff that is voluntarily delisted application instead of EPA-mandated. There's a semi-annual review coming up for long; if I think of it I'll ask about it. Meanwhile, guess best stock up if can still find some on shelves for garden altho it is of no concern for lack thereof for the farm operation. -- |
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theres NO need to light the gasoline dumped down the hole the vapors
kill the stinging beasts. of course I mix roundup and poision ivy killer 50% 50% to kill posion ivy. I tend to do what works! |
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"J Burns" wrote in message ... On 9/5/10 12:04 AM, lil abner wrote: There is a law that says you can't use fire to get rid of yellow jackets??? You don't use enough gasoline to fill a well. A quart or so is generally all it will take but I have seen a nest that was over 5 ft deep. Why light it? When you pour the gas down the hole, the fumes will displace the air, so the fire won't go down the hole. The soil will keep the heat away from the nest. I have found that the fumes from a tablespoon of gasoline will kill a nest. I imagine soil organisms can soon break down that small amount. But why use gasoline at all when just some boring old bucket of soapy water could work. That way you also don't have to pinpoint with a great deal of accuracy the entry hole, either. This worked for me, but the first time I was askeered and I think I poured it out too quickly (or ran before I quite finished - I was hardly well protected clothing-wise!). One more dousing the next night took care of the last few of them. Keeping in mind that I doubt the nest was particularly large, either.... |
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On 9/5/2010 10:49 AM, Red wrote:
On 9/5/2010 8:33 AM, Frank wrote: On 9/4/2010 8:12 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:54:19 -0400, wrote: On 9/4/2010 6:16 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:38:29 -0400, wrote: On 9/4/2010 12:16 PM, James wrote: I live in North Florida. There is a yellow jacket bee hive in a big clump of pampass grass (sawgrass), that I can't get rid of. I have used the long-shot Black Flag sprays, using a total of (3 ) 18 oz cans at one time, but I cannot get rid of the nest. The bees come right back to it. I used the long-shot spray method because of the danger of getting too close, but even that was risky, as I had to fight off many bees with the spray, as they were coming after me. My wife got stung 8 times while she was working near this spot, and that is how we first learned of it... Does anyone have any recommendations on how I can get rid of this nest ? The pampas grass is quite large, and I cannot see the actual nest, but dozens and dozens of bees continue to fly in and out of the plant, so I know it is in there somewhere. Please help !!! Thank you. James One good shot of wasp/hornet spray in the nest opening should do it. I've heard it is best to spray at night but I've done it many times in the day as sprayed yellow jackets are disoriented and don't get you. They're not all home during the day, so even if you don't get stung you didn't do half the job. Good point. I've seen some coming back the next day even but eventually they all disappear. No, they just move their nest. ...likely somewhere else you don't want it. Not to belabor the point, but I believe that yellow jackets are like other bees and once you've wiped out their base and killed the queen, the drones just get lost. that is what we need to do to the dems in november. Great analogy ;) |
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Nelly wrote in message
... [snip] But why use gasoline at all when just some boring old bucket of soapy water could work. That way you also don't have to pinpoint with a great deal of accuracy the entry hole, either. This worked for me, but the first time I was askeered and I think I poured it out too quickly (or ran before I quite finished - I was hardly well protected clothing-wise!). One more dousing the next night took care of the last few of them. You might've already answered these: What's the ratio of soap and water? Was there any particular type of soap you used or were the perameters "cheapest, largest?" {I currently have a drum of that Costco-inspired liquid soap; it doesn't really suds up nicely but it was cheap and I have a lot of it left still.) What does the soapy water do to exterminate the nest? Many thanks. The Ranger |
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On 9/4/2010 10:57 PM, aemeijers wrote:
I know, playing with fire is fun, but you can't buy real M-80s any more either. Oh, yes you can.... G -- Steve Barker remove the "not" from my address to email |
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On 9/5/10 5:21 PM, Nelly wrote:
"J wrote in message ... On 9/5/10 12:04 AM, lil abner wrote: There is a law that says you can't use fire to get rid of yellow jackets??? You don't use enough gasoline to fill a well. A quart or so is generally all it will take but I have seen a nest that was over 5 ft deep. Why light it? When you pour the gas down the hole, the fumes will displace the air, so the fire won't go down the hole. The soil will keep the heat away from the nest. I have found that the fumes from a tablespoon of gasoline will kill a nest. I imagine soil organisms can soon break down that small amount. But why use gasoline at all when just some boring old bucket of soapy water could work. That way you also don't have to pinpoint with a great deal of accuracy the entry hole, either. This worked for me, but the first time I was askeered and I think I poured it out too quickly (or ran before I quite finished - I was hardly well protected clothing-wise!). One more dousing the next night took care of the last few of them. Keeping in mind that I doubt the nest was particularly large, either.... That reminds me of a method where you don't have to find the nest. Make a tripod of sticks a foot or two long, to stand in a bucket or pan. Hang a piece of fish from it. Add water until the level is an inch or two below the fish. Add a drop of detergent to the water and leave the trap where yellow jackets can find it. They tend to fall in when the try to fly with a piece of fish. The soap speeds drowning. It may catch so many that it has to be emptied each night. |
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On Sep 5, 6:23*pm, "The Ranger" wrote:
What's the ratio of soap and water? Against stinging insects in general, I keep a household spray bottle handy with a mix of 1:15 soap to water. I use dish soap like Dawn or something similar. Water alone will not kill them, they are adapted to outdoor living and rain. However soapy water drowns them quickly. Hit with this spray, they die FAR faster than with Raid, and I don't have to worry about poisoning the kids or the dogs. But I haven't wanted to waste expensive dish soap on nests in the ground. I just throw in a cup of tide or similar laundry detergent to each bucket of water. What does the soapy water do to exterminate the nest? Soapy water wets them and drowns them. Plain water doesn't, I guess they must have some way of shedding it. I don't really know the physics of this, but I have done it a number of times and can testify it works. |
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On 9/5/2010 4:21 PM, Nelly wrote:
"J wrote in message ... On 9/5/10 12:04 AM, lil abner wrote: There is a law that says you can't use fire to get rid of yellow jackets??? You don't use enough gasoline to fill a well. A quart or so is generally all it will take but I have seen a nest that was over 5 ft deep. Why light it? When you pour the gas down the hole, the fumes will displace the air, so the fire won't go down the hole. The soil will keep the heat away from the nest. I have found that the fumes from a tablespoon of gasoline will kill a nest. I imagine soil organisms can soon break down that small amount. But why use gasoline at all when just some boring old bucket of soapy water could work. That way you also don't have to pinpoint with a great deal of accuracy the entry hole, either. This worked for me, but the first time I was askeered and I think I poured it out too quickly (or ran before I quite finished - I was hardly well protected clothing-wise!). One more dousing the next night took care of the last few of them. Keeping in mind that I doubt the nest was particularly large, either.... Has anyone ever used a power washer to take out a nest? Um, WTF does "askeered" mean? Does it hurt? 8-) TDD |
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On 9/5/2010 6:32 PM, Steve Barker wrote:
On 9/4/2010 10:57 PM, aemeijers wrote: I know, playing with fire is fun, but you can't buy real M-80s any more either. Oh, yes you can.... G When I was a kid and teenager we used quarter sticks of dynamite in traps for foxes, in the Indiana orchards and in place of fire crackers. Uncles used it in their own small coal mines or dog holes Dynamite was common and used by Farmers etc all over the place. We weren't worried about Terrorists. Indeed, terrorists would have provided a bit of diversion. I bet he would die of appleplexy if he though the Farmers now used it. Now you have to hire a licensed outfit to use it for you. Of course City folks didn't/don't need it. They were/are dangerous though and nitwits found out the hard way. |
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On 2010-09-05, Steve Barker wrote:
Oh, yes you can.... G Not the original M80s, like back in the '60s. The BATF has reclassified them as HE (high explosives) and it's class D felony to be caught with one. There are wimpy bogus M80s and perhaps some illegally imported one's, but it's not like 1964 when you could legally buy a gross of the real deal for about $10 in any one of a dozen states. nb |
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On 2010-09-06, The Daring Dufas wrote:
Has anyone ever used a power washer to take out a nest? Um, WTF does "askeered" mean? Does it hurt? 8-) The term "askeered" is the local yokel synonym for "afraid". nb |
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On 9/6/2010 10:45 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2010-09-06, The Daring wrote: Has anyone ever used a power washer to take out a nest? Um, WTF does "askeered" mean? Does it hurt? 8-) The term "askeered" is the local yokel synonym for "afraid". nb M&ms come in synonym or cinnamon? |
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On 2010-09-06, lil abner wrote:
M&ms come in synonym or cinnamon? Last time I looked, they came in a bag. ;) nb |
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On 9/6/2010 9:41 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2010-09-05, Steve wrote: Oh, yes you can....G Not the original M80s, like back in the '60s. The BATF has reclassified them as HE (high explosives) and it's class D felony to be caught with one. There are wimpy bogus M80s and perhaps some illegally imported one's, but it's not like 1964 when you could legally buy a gross of the real deal for about $10 in any one of a dozen states. nb How in the hell did we ever survive our childhood? I seem to remember being able to purchase WWII surplus hand grenades. TDD |
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Gracious. Not sure I'd ever have a use for one of them.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... How in the hell did we ever survive our childhood? I seem to remember being able to purchase WWII surplus hand grenades. TDD |
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On 9/6/2010 10:47 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Gracious. Not sure I'd ever have a use for one of them. Booby-trap the garage to take out dobads or to protect your crops. 8-) TDD |
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On 2010-09-06, The Daring Dufas wrote:
How in the hell did we ever survive our childhood? I suspect it was due to the fact we hadn't learned to drink, yet! I know it was as a young drinking adult I began to get careless. Had two firecrackers blow up in my fingers cuz I'd been drinking. One incident was straight out of a National Lampoon movie, where I lit the firecracker with my cigar stub, then tossed the cigar!! I'm older and wiser, now, and luckily still have all my digits, but if either one of the aforementioned episodes had involved a real M80, I have no doubt my nickname would now be Lefty. ;) nb |
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On 9/6/2010 11:42 AM, The Daring Dufas wrote:
On 9/6/2010 9:41 AM, notbob wrote: On 2010-09-05, Steve wrote: Oh, yes you can....G Not the original M80s, like back in the '60s. The BATF has reclassified them as HE (high explosives) and it's class D felony to be caught with one. There are wimpy bogus M80s and perhaps some illegally imported one's, but it's not like 1964 when you could legally buy a gross of the real deal for about $10 in any one of a dozen states. nb How in the hell did we ever survive our childhood? I seem to remember being able to purchase WWII surplus hand grenades. TDD Only as paperweights, with the charge removed, or inert 'training' grenades. (Other than ones idiots snuck home as souvenirs, of course.) Way too tempting for kids playing soldier, even back then. -- aem sends... |
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On 9/6/2010 11:59 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2010-09-06, The Daring wrote: How in the hell did we ever survive our childhood? I suspect it was due to the fact we hadn't learned to drink, yet! I know it was as a young drinking adult I began to get careless. Had two firecrackers blow up in my fingers cuz I'd been drinking. One incident was straight out of a National Lampoon movie, where I lit the firecracker with my cigar stub, then tossed the cigar!! I'm older and wiser, now, and luckily still have all my digits, but if either one of the aforementioned episodes had involved a real M80, I have no doubt my nickname would now be Lefty. ;) nb 'Here, hold my beer' 'Watch this!' 'Oh, I've done this a hundred times before' Anybody remember the others? Foxworthy had a several-minute bit with them on one of his old standup routines. And yeah, as I remarked on here before, it is a small miracle that I still have all my limbs and digits, and both eyes and both ears, and they all still work, sorta. I try real hard not to do stupid stuff any more- I don't heal up near as fast or well as I used to. -- aem sends... |
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"TimR" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 6:23 pm, "The Ranger" wrote: What's the ratio of soap and water? Against stinging insects in general, I keep a household spray bottle handy with a mix of 1:15 soap to water. I use dish soap like Dawn or something similar. Water alone will not kill them, they are adapted to outdoor living and rain. However soapy water drowns them quickly. Hit with this spray, they die FAR faster than with Raid, and I don't have to worry about poisoning the kids or the dogs. But I haven't wanted to waste expensive dish soap on nests in the ground. I just throw in a cup of tide or similar laundry detergent to each bucket of water. =================== Be careful of using laundry soap near plants, though. Many have high enough levels of alkali and chelating agents to cause damage. What does the soapy water do to exterminate the nest? Soapy water wets them and drowns them. Plain water doesn't, I guess they must have some way of shedding it. I don't really know the physics of this, but I have done it a number of times and can testify it works. ================ The surfactant in detergents lowers the interfacial tension between water and their body surface. |
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:56:00 -0400, lil abner wrote:
On 9/6/2010 10:45 AM, notbob wrote: On 2010-09-06, The Daring wrote: Has anyone ever used a power washer to take out a nest? Um, WTF does "askeered" mean? Does it hurt? 8-) The term "askeered" is the local yokel synonym for "afraid". nb M&ms come in synonym or cinnamon? Never heard of M&Ms in that flavor. What color are the simaron ones? |
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