"James" wrote in
:

Well, I am red-faced !! If RBM was joking, it went right over my head
!! The problem is, too many folks actually believe what he posted is
true !!


Apologies to you RBM !!!

James



The correct response was a Gilda Radner "Nevermind" :-)

On 12/11/2010 10:37 AM, James wrote:
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights. Much
to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights, just the fake led lights.
I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot, and
Target. All I could find was the fake led lights.


Large lights have been out of vogue for a while, everyone waned the
minis. The imitation C& and such is all you will commonly find at the
big box.

Try online or a hardware store like Ace:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...5451.125 9050

Jeff

Will look at Ace Hardware... had not thought of that...

thanks

James

James wrote:

[snip]

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights. 50
lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say these are
much
cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But, I have seen that you get
what you pay for. These lights are dull and weak looking.

I have some of those, and even some C9 LED ones. They have plastic shells,
which contain the same single LED as the miniature ones. They aren't very
bright, although the color is good.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

The wal-mart here seems to have plenty of REAL C7 and C9 lights (unless
they've sold out by now).

[snip]

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"I have never understood why the injection area of the skin is wiped
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In article ,
Tony Miklos wrote:

On 12/11/2010 11:12 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, wrote:


wrote in message
net...
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights.
Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights, just the fake led
lights. I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot,
and Target. All I could find was the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights. 50
lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say these are
much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But, I have seen that
you get what you pay for. These lights are dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside
Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas lights !!

James

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when some
kid
in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

Besides the fact that the comment was a sarcastic joke.... The reason is
because their government doesn't pay women that reproduce like rabbits
to raise their children. Here in the US we say "Go ahead and be a lazy
whore. Don't get a job, we will pay to take care of all your children."

Ah, a pair of "crainal-rectally inverted" bookends ;O)

When will you dumb humps figure out that it isn't the poor that is
screwing this country, it is "White Guys in Suits".

Take Obama's tax plan, please.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/us/politics/08impact.html?_r=2&hp
Tax Package Will Aid Nearly All, Especially Highest Earners
" . . .In fact, the only groups likely to face a tax increase are those
near the bottom of the income scale ‹ individuals who make less than
$20,000 and families with earnings below $40,000."
-----

"White Guys in Suits" strike again! So while you guys are sniveling
about the poor, the colored, and the illegals, fat cats are whistling
all the way to the bank.

Who are youguys, some kind of flag-wrapped agent provocateurs, à la
COINTELPRO (slander and murder), trying to misdirect people's attention
attention so that they won't notice that their pockets are being picked?

If you saw "Capitalism: A Love Story", then you also know that many
Mexicans are enticed into this country by meat packers, and others. If
the Mexicans become involved in union organizing, say for safer working
conditions, management just feeds them to ICE and has them deported.

When are yougoing to get it through your thick skulls that
illegals didn't send your jobs over seas? Illegals didn't block raising
oil spill liability from $75 million to $10 billion. Illegals didn't
propose weakening of the provision on derivatives trading in the
financial regulation bill banning Wall Street firms from acting as
brokers for most forms of derivatives trades. Illegals didn't start two
vanity wars costing trillion$ of dollar$ of debt and human suffering.
Illegals didn't change banking laws so that Goldman Sachs, A.I.G., et
al. could rip-off trillion$ from the tax payer's coffers, closing
businesses and throwing people out into the street. It wasn't illegals
who wrote a health care reform law that guaranteed that insurance
companies would make more money, win or lose. Illegals didn't allow
drilling off the southern coast without enviromenmental studies. It
isn't illegals who make cheap, nutritionless faux food for for your
children to eat. Illegals didn't pollute the oceans, doing away with a
free source of food. It isn't illegals who are going to rescind funding
for welfare and children's health programs in California. It isn't
illegals who pollute the air and the water, that tax payers have to
clean up. Illegal aliens don't foul forest streams with mountain top
removal, so that we can belch more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.
It isn't illegals that say that the US must have 1000 military bases
around the world and spend half of the world's military budget. It
isn't illegals who stole our national honor at Abu Ghraib and
Guantanamo. It isn't illegals who disregard collateral damage (as
Timothy McVeigh called it) in Pakistan and Afghanistan. It wasn't
illegals that wrote NAFTA, that allows the US to dump tax subsidized
corn on the Mexican market, below the cost of production, resulting in
the loss of Mexican farm jobs and a loss of income to agricultural
families. No, it wasn't illegals. It was
"White Guys in Suits",
so if you have a bone to pick, go pick it with the "White Guys in Suits".

Mexicans lower the cost of living for Americans with low cost house
cleaning, gardening, childcare, and get sick harvesting your pesticide
laden food. No stinkin' "White Guy in a Suit" ever did that for you.
grrrrr

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/bu...tml?ex=1270353
600&en=78c87ac4641dc383&ei=5090&partner=kmarx

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/03/year-without-mexican

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/29/business/29tax.html

http://www.democracynow.org2008/10/17ex_asst_treasury_sec_paul_craig
--
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:

[snip]


I bought a set of LED strings for the outside, a couple of years ago
(~1400
lights). They were so ugly I threw them out when I took them down that
year and replaced them with real lights (after Christmas sales) for the
next year. I just put up about half of them yesterday (waiting for it to
get a little warmer to finish the job).

Are you thinking of the ones that are white, rather than the yellow of
incansescents?

For normal single colors (like red, green, and blue), LEDs have better
color. It's more intense and doesn't fade (since the light IS that color,
rather than depending on a coating).

BTW, we need more colored lights out, instead of just those boring "white"
ones.

--
14 days until The winter celebration (Saturday December 25, 2010
12:00:00 AM).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us

"I have never understood why the injection area of the skin is wiped
with an alcohol swab prior to execution by lethal injection."

On 12/11/2010 8:12 AM Brooklyn1 spake thus:

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, "RBM" wrote:

"James" wrote in message
net...

Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas
lights. Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights,
just the fake led lights. I looked at all the big box stores,
including Lowe's, Home Depot, and Target. All I could find was
the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights.
50 lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say
these are much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But,
I have seen that you get what you pay for. These lights are
dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside
Christmas lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas
lights !!

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when
some kid in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, you are a *racist asshole*.

**** off.


--
Comment on quaint Usenet customs, from Usenet:

To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing
who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign
that he is not going to hear any rebuttals.

In article ,
David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 12/11/2010 8:12 AM Brooklyn1 spake thus:

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, "RBM" wrote:

"James" wrote in message
net...

Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas
lights. Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights,
just the fake led lights. I looked at all the big box stores,
including Lowe's, Home Depot, and Target. All I could find was
the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights.
50 lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say
these are much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But,
I have seen that you get what you pay for. These lights are
dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside
Christmas lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas
lights !!

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when
some kid in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, you are a *racist asshole*.

**** off.

Well played :O)

And now for some of the slow learners



August 27, 2000

UV light, skin color linked

Variations due to geography

Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO ‹ Two San Francisco scientists using data from a NASA
satellite say they have discovered why people come in different colors.

Variations in human skin color are the result of adaptations to the
amount of ultraviolet light from the sun falling on different regions of
Earth, according to Nina Jablonski and George Chaplin, scientists with
the California Academy of Science.

People's bodies change their skin color over time to let in just the
right amount of UV light, which is key to having healthy babies.

UV light affects the skin's production of folate, part of the B vitamin
complex, and vitamin D-3, both of which are essential for having healthy
children.

Folate is necessary for the proper development of the nervous system in
fetuses and for sperm production in adult males. Vitamin D-3 helps build
and maintain strong bones and a healthy immune system.

But too much solar UV light can not only cause skin cancer, it can also
damage those chemicals, thereby hurting a person's chances for
reproductive success.

The scientists' finding may also explain why women tend to be
lighter-skinned than men. Lighter skin lets in more solar UV light,
increasing a woman's vitamin D-3 production, which helps the fetus grow
during pregnancy and helps nourish newborns through breast feeding.

UV light from the sun varies from region to region for reasons including
latitude, humidity and cloudiness.

Jablonski and Chaplin's discovery isn't entirely new. For a long time,
scientists have thought there was a correlation between UV light and
skin color, and they knew the light helped produce vitamin D and that it
could cause cancer.

"But this explanation was considered weak by some scientists because
skin cancer has little or no effect on people's ability to reproduce,
which is really the bottom line of every evolutionary spreadsheet,"
Jablonski said.

Jablonski developed the hypothesis that links UV light to reproduction
in 1991. The scientists analyzed published measurements of human skin
color from around the world and data from NASA's Total Ozone Mapping
Spectrometer satellite, which orbited Earth from 1978 to 1993 and
gathered direct UV measurements for the entire globe to find the
correlation between skin color and UV light.

Jablonski and Chaplin found that dark skin acts as a natural sunscreen
to help prevent UV light from breaking down folate, so it is helpful in
areas with a lot of sun. But in less sunny areas, dark skin screens out
too much sunlight, and can inhibit the production of vitamin D-3, so
lighter skin is helpful for reproductive success.

Skin color is based on the level of melanin, an organic molecule with an
undetermined chemical structure. Those with more melanin have darker
skin, and melanin levels are genetic. But the variations in skin color
are adaptations to solar UV light, not biological differences among
people, according to Jablonski and Chaplin.

"We're all the same under the skin," Jablonski said.
----

'Nuff said.
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyE5wjc4XOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_vN0--mHug

On 12/11/2010 10:12 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, wrote:


wrote in message
net...
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights.
Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights, just the fake led
lights. I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot,
and Target. All I could find was the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights. 50
lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say these are
much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But, I have seen that
you get what you pay for. These lights are dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas lights !!

James

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when some kid
in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

I'm not a big fan of the behavior of some of our African cousins but I'd
like to point out that mommy was probably forcibly raped.

TDD

On 12/11/2010 3:47 PM Billy spake thus:

In article ,
David Nebenzahl wrote:

On 12/11/2010 8:12 AM Brooklyn1 spake thus:

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, "RBM" wrote:

"James" wrote in message
net...

Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas
lights. Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights,
just the fake led lights. I looked at all the big box stores,
including Lowe's, Home Depot, and Target. All I could find was
the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights.
50 lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say
these are much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But,
I have seen that you get what you pay for. These lights are
dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside
Christmas lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas
lights !!

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when
some kid in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, you are a *racist asshole*.

**** off.

Well played :O)

And now for some of the slow learners


August 27, 2000
UV light, skin color linked
Variations due to geography
Associated Press

SAN FRANCISCO ‹ Two San Francisco scientists using data from a NASA
satellite say they have discovered why people come in different colors.

Variations in human skin color are the result of adaptations to the
amount of ultraviolet light from the sun falling on different regions of
Earth, according to Nina Jablonski and George Chaplin, scientists with
the California Academy of Science.

[snip article]

Thanks for that.

Just more evidence that the whole idea of "race" when applied to the
human species is pretty much scientifically discredited as being of any
consequence. Yes, there are biological differences between "races"
(e.g., susceptibility to sickle-cell anemia in blacks), but they're
mainly swamped by the overall similarities.

Hell, there was a time when it was widely accepted that different human
"races" couldn't even interbreed. (And not that long ago when it was
widely accepted that they *shouldn't* interbreed ...)


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To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing
who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign
that he is not going to hear any rebuttals.

On Dec 11, 7:11*pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:

snip

Sorry, pretty boring. Try posting at alt.social.justice or some other
progressive site. I would rather discuss home repair/building topics.
Thank you.

Joe

On Dec 11, 11:37*am, "James" wrote:
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights. Much
to my surprise, I could not find any REAL *lights, just the fake led lights.
I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot, and
Target. *All I could find was the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of *led *lights strings with C7 *led lights. * *50
lights on a string, total wattage of *3.7 watts. * *They say these are much
cheaper to run because of the low wattage. * But, I have seen that you get
what you pay for. * These lights are dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas lights !!

James

Dont know if its the same problem you had but two years ago I put out
some "white" LED lights and they were dull dim yellow in reality. I
discovered this is because they only run on one half of each AC cycle
so they are ON only 50% 0f the time. I corrected this problem using a
bridge rectifer mounted in a quad outlet box. The only problem with
this scheme is that the lights are polarity sensitive and wont come on
at all if plugged in the wrong way(rotate light string plug 180
degrees). Otherwise the lights are much more brighter and vivid.

Jimmie

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 11:04:02 -0500, "James"
wrote:

RBM, you are an idiot. Christmas lights have nothing to do with starving
kids in Nigeria. If you really think that is true, you are a blooming idiot
!!

AND, I don't need Al Gore to tell me how bright my Christmas lights should
be, or how many gallons of water that I use to flush my crap, another bright
(dim) idea from your idol.

They didn't cut back on regular lights because of anything the
government did. They sold some and people bought them out, so they
made a lot more. It's the market system which I thought you
conservatives liked.

OP If you want real lights, I'd look on the web, Google Web or Google
Shopping. Yahoo Shopping, Ebay, and Amazon.

Although often ebay or Amazon items show up in Google web, I think not
all the time and you have to look on them directly.

Get a life.

James

On Dec 11, 3:57*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 12/11/2010 10:12 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:



On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, *wrote:

*wrote in message
alnet...
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights..
Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL *lights, just the fake led
lights. I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot,
and Target. *All I could find was the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of *led *lights strings with C7 *led lights. * *50
lights on a string, total wattage of *3.7 watts. * *They say these are
much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. * But, I have seen that
you get what you pay for. * These lights are dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas lights !!

James

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when some kid
in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

I'm not a big fan of the behavior of some of our African cousins but I'd
like to point out that mommy was probably forcibly raped.

TDD

There is another kind of rape?

HB

On 12/12/2010 1:48 AM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Dec 11, 3:57 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 12/11/2010 10:12 AM, Brooklyn1 wrote:



On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 10:54:54 -0500, wrote:

wrote in message
net...
Ok, so this year I went out to buy some more outside Christmas lights.
Much to my surprise, I could not find any REAL lights, just the fake led
lights. I looked at all the big box stores, including Lowe's, Home Depot,
and Target. All I could find was the fake led lights.

So, I bought a set of led lights strings with C7 led lights. 50
lights on a string, total wattage of 3.7 watts. They say these are
much cheaper to run because of the low wattage. But, I have seen that
you get what you pay for. These lights are dull and weak looking.

Does anyone here know of any store that still sells real outside Christmas
lights, or have they all been outlawed too ?

Thanks for any info on where I can purchase non-fake Christmas lights !!

James

How can you even think about using real Christmas tree lights, when some kid
in Nigeria is starving .

The ONLY reason some kid in Nigeria is starving is because its moron
mommy didn't have the sense to keep her legs closed.

I'm not a big fan of the behavior of some of our African cousins but I'd
like to point out that mommy was probably forcibly raped.

TDD

There is another kind of rape?

HB

Um, drunk, intimidation, hostage syndrome, too young to understand or
mentally impaired come to mind. It's wrong anyway one looks at it,
especially if it involves children. I don't understand any adult who
would harm a child in any way although children are a good source of
high quality protein, the toes are the crunchy part. :-)

TDD