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I have a part of my lawn underneath a Blue Spruce tree. I want to mix in
some new dirt under the tree to counter the damage caused by 40 years of
dropped needles, but what do I look for in grass seed that can grow in
shade?


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The Henchman wrote the following:
I have a part of my lawn underneath a Blue Spruce tree. I want to mix
in some new dirt under the tree to counter the damage caused by 40
years of dropped needles, but what do I look for in grass seed that
can grow in shade?

....and in acidic soil, you mean.

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"willshak" wrote in message
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The Henchman wrote the following:
I have a part of my lawn underneath a Blue Spruce tree. I want to mix in
some new dirt under the tree to counter the damage caused by 40 years of
dropped needles, but what do I look for in grass seed that can grow in
shade?

....and in acidic soil, you mean.

------------------

I was going to mix calcium carbonate and starter fertilizer to balance out
the acidity, but my concern is finding grass that grows in shade before I do
anything.

Without finding a type of grass that can deal with the all day shade it
might not be worth the trouble.


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BTW I live in Zone 5b
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The Henchman said:

"willshak" wrote in message
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The Henchman wrote the following:
I have a part of my lawn underneath a Blue Spruce tree. I want to mix in
some new dirt under the tree to counter the damage caused by 40 years of
dropped needles, but what do I look for in grass seed that can grow in
shade?

...and in acidic soil, you mean.

------------------

I was going to mix calcium carbonate and starter fertilizer to balance out
the acidity, but my concern is finding grass that grows in shade before I do
anything.


Fescue.


Without finding a type of grass that can deal with the all day shade it
might not be worth the trouble.


Do you want the tree, or the grass? P. pungens prefers neutral to slightly
acidic (6.1 - 7.5 pH) soil. The grass won't tolerate the acid. It's really that
simple.

How can there be any visible grass under the spruce? Did you remove the bottom
branches?
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The Henchman wrote the following:
BTW I live in Zone 5b

It doesn't matter. Cut all the lower branches off the tree to allow sun
to get to the ground.
Fir trees are the worst kind of tree on a lawn.
I have fir tress on two sides of my lawn where nothing grows underneath
them. I'd cut them down but they are on my neighbor's property.
With all the snow we had this winter and how long it stayed on the
ground, the deer ate a lot of the lower branches to where I can now see
my neighbor's lawn, so maybe some grass will grow there.

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willshak said:

The Henchman wrote the following:
BTW I live in Zone 5b

It doesn't matter. Cut all the lower branches off the tree to allow sun
to get to the ground.


Blue Spruce look rediculous, when limbed up.

Fir trees are the worst kind of tree on a lawn.


It's a Spruce, not a Fir.

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I understand that Blue Spruce need acid soil to remain blue.


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The Henchman wrote the following:
I have a part of my lawn underneath a Blue Spruce tree. I want to mix in
some new dirt under the tree to counter the damage caused by 40 years of
dropped needles, but what do I look for in grass seed that can grow in
shade?

...and in acidic soil, you mean.

------------------

I was going to mix calcium carbonate and starter fertilizer to balance out
the acidity, but my concern is finding grass that grows in shade before I
do anything.

Without finding a type of grass that can deal with the all day shade it
might not be worth the trouble.




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Without finding a type of grass that can deal with the all day shade it
might not be worth the trouble.


Do you want the tree, or the grass? P. pungens prefers neutral to slightly
acidic (6.1 - 7.5 pH) soil. The grass won't tolerate the acid. It's really
that
simple.

How can there be any visible grass under the spruce? Did you remove the
bottom
branches?
------------------

It's only the second year I've owned this place so still learning my yard.

There was grass under the tree for most of the tree's life but a combination
of the spruce tree growing, a cedar tree beside it, and my neighbour's maple
tree growing super fast has cut off a lot of the sun's supply. A 3 foot
perimeter around the spruce has ground cover growing (myrtle?) in a slightly
raised bed.

No branches can be removed my wife says...

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The Henchman said:


Without finding a type of grass that can deal with the all day shade it
might not be worth the trouble.


Do you want the tree, or the grass? P. pungens prefers neutral to slightly
acidic (6.1 - 7.5 pH) soil. The grass won't tolerate the acid. It's really
that
simple.

How can there be any visible grass under the spruce? Did you remove the
bottom
branches?
------------------

It's only the second year I've owned this place so still learning my yard.

There was grass under the tree for most of the tree's life but a combination
of the spruce tree growing, a cedar tree beside it, and my neighbour's maple
tree growing super fast has cut off a lot of the sun's supply. A 3 foot
perimeter around the spruce has ground cover growing (myrtle?) in a slightly
raised bed.

No branches can be removed my wife says...


You're wife is to be commended.

The rest of my comment(s) still stand. =)

And, please fix your *cough* newsreader's quoting abilty. I appreciate that you
don't top-post (the default for most of M$ crap), but it MUST have the ability
to properly quote. I know many people that use WLM as their *cough* newsreader,
that format posts properly. Thanks.
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On May 2, 6:09*am, Eggs Zachtly wrote:
willshak said:

The Henchman wrote the following:
BTW * *I live in Zone 5b

It doesn't matter. Cut all the lower branches off the tree to allow sun
to get to the ground.


Blue Spruce look rediculous, when limbed up.

Fir trees are the worst kind of tree on a lawn.


It's a Spruce, not a Fir. *

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Eggs

-A comfortable falsehood will always win out over an uncomfortable truth.


As for the basic question as to whether grass seed suited for shade
exists,
a trip to HD, Lowes, or a garden center will confirm that they do
have seed mixtures
for shade.
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Walmart sells seeds from Pennington, including a mix with a variety of
fescues that are touted to grow well in shade. I think that it is called
Pennington Dense Shade.

James




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