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garden_gal2 26-05-2011 11:27 AM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.

I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first, so pleased with the result!

However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf 'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this morning the discolouration was still there :(

My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler - I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and their still looks in better shape.

Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!

Old Wellies 26-05-2011 05:46 PM

Keep the turf wet. Water as much as possible. If layed correct, it will recover.










Quote:

Originally Posted by garden_gal2 (Post 923098)
Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.

I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first, so pleased with the result!

However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf 'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this morning the discolouration was still there :(

My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler - I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and their still looks in better shape.

Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!


garden_gal2 26-05-2011 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Wellies (Post 923247)
Keep the turf wet. Water as much as possible. If layed correct, it will recover.

That's good to know! It rained biblical amounts here in London today, which I'm hoping will have helped. It still looks a different colour to the rest of the lawn, but not quite so dramatically paler, so I will keep up the watering and cross fingers. Thanks.

Bob F 26-05-2011 09:11 PM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
garden_gal2 wrote:
Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.

I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at
first, so pleased with the result!

However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering,
I think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from
work yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of
the turf 'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking
straw-like and an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I
watered it for a further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these
areas, but this morning the discolouration was still there :(

My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener
told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler
- I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not
water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday)
and their still looks in better shape.

Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm
so worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project
and I can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!


Fresh sod will have shallow roots. Watering for hours will just waste water. Set
up timers to water lightly a couple times during hot days, just enough to keep
it from drying out while it develops roots into the soil. Ease off on the
watering on cool days or as it toughens up, gradually switching over to weekly
heavier waterings.





[email protected][_2_] 28-05-2011 02:49 PM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
On May 26, 12:46*pm, Old Wellies Old.Wellies.
wrote:
Keep the turf wet. *Water as much as possible. *



Wrong. I agree with Bob. You need to keep water available
at the roots, but no need to over do it. What exactly would
watering as much as possible mean? 24/7 with the largest
flow rate you can support?

Just water it at least once a day and keep an eye on how
quickly it dries out. Also, the advice to not water during
the day or you will "scorch" it, is rubbish. If water could
harm it that way, what would happen with passing
showers that nature provides? The reason not to water
during the day is that a lot more water will be lost to
evaporation.




Willshak 28-05-2011 03:17 PM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
garden_gal2 wrote the following:
Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.

I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first,
so pleased with the result!

However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I
think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work
yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf
'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and
an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a
further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this
morning the discolouration was still there :(

My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener
told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler -
I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not
water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and
their still looks in better shape.

Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so
worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I
can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!






Scott's lawn watering page (short video)
http://www.scotts.com/smg/learn/vide...110528141110:s
or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/3unr9h9

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Robby1 28-05-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garden_gal2 (Post 923098)
Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.

I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first, so pleased with the result!

However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf 'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this morning the discolouration was still there :(

My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler - I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and their still looks in better shape.

Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!

You really need a sprinkler. Water over night and turn of in the morning. The lawn may need aerating if it has got to dry. Dry, hard soil will resist watering as it compacts as it dries.

[email protected][_2_] 29-05-2011 01:46 PM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
On May 28, 2:01*pm, Robby1 wrote:
garden_gal2;923098 Wrote:





Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.


I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first,
so pleased with the result!


However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I
think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work
yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf
'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and
an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a
further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this
morning the discolouration was still there :(


My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener
told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler -
I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not
water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and
their still looks in better shape.


Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so
worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I
can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!


You really need a sprinkler. Water over night and turn of in the
morning. The lawn may need aerating if it has got to dry. Dry, hard soil
will resist watering as it compacts as it dries.

--
Robby1- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


More cluesss advice. Aerate sod that was laid a week ago?
Watering should be done just before the sun comes up. That
way you minimize evaporation and also don't leave the grass
wet for most of the night. Watering at say 8PM and keeping
it wet at night in summer is prescription for disease and
fungus.

Old Wellies 03-06-2011 12:49 PM

I think you have to make a decision between people who do this for a living, or the DIY gardeners who have read Doctor Hessions 25 year old garden book.

Techniques have changed in the professional industry over the last few years; remember Saturday football, with teams so muddy you could not tell what team was playing.

Water conservation is important to some people, but not everyone. If you have a new turf area you need to keep it wet. If you don’t, watch what happens. Shrinkage and damaged areas within days. Morning or mid afternoon it makes no difference it’s a percentage game with saving water. Everyone seems to try to better the last person’s comments.

I have trained green and grounds men for years, regardless of what anyone says, some one always knows better. I always tell my class "Advice comes cheap, but you have to pay for experience".










Quote:

Originally Posted by [_2_] (Post 924558)
On May 28, 2:01*pm, Robby1 wrote:
garden_gal2;923098 Wrote:





Hi all
Bit new to this so any help appreciated.


I had new turf laid in my garden on Monday. It looked amazing at first,
so pleased with the result!


However, we have had very hot dry weather since and despite watering, I
think part of the lawn may now have died. When I returned home from work
yesterday (having watered for 2 hours the night before) two of the turf
'slabs' were a different colour from the others, looking straw-like and
an odd blueish shade of green. They felt really dry. I watered it for a
further two-and-a-bit hours focusing mainly on these areas, but this
morning the discolouration was still there :(


My mistake may have been waiting until dusk to water (as the gardener
told me to do this to avoid scorching) or possibly a faulty sprinkler -
I'm not sure it has covered all areas. However my neighbours did not
water on the first day at all (we both had the turf laid on monday) and
their still looks in better shape.


Has the turf died or can I revive it somehow with more watering? I'm so
worried about it as this was an expensive and long-awaited project and I
can't believe I've ruined it so quickly. Please help!


You really need a sprinkler. Water over night and turn of in the
morning. The lawn may need aerating if it has got to dry. Dry, hard soil
will resist watering as it compacts as it dries.

--
Robby1- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


More cluesss advice. Aerate sod that was laid a week ago?
Watering should be done just before the sun comes up. That
way you minimize evaporation and also don't leave the grass
wet for most of the night. Watering at say 8PM and keeping
it wet at night in summer is prescription for disease and
fungus.


[email protected][_2_] 05-06-2011 02:31 AM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
On Jun 3, 7:49*am, Old Wellies Old.Wellies.
wrote:
I think you have to make a decision between people who do this for a
living, or the DIY gardeners who have read Doctor Hessions 25 year old
garden book.

Techniques have changed in the professional industry over the last few
years; remember Saturday football, with teams so muddy you could not
tell what team was playing.

Water conservation is important to some people, but not everyone. *If
you have a new turf area you need to keep it wet. If you don’t, watch
what happens. *Shrinkage and damaged areas within days. *Morning or mid
afternoon it makes no difference it’s a percentage game with saving
water.


If you have to PAY for water by the amount used, which is very
common, losing a significant portion
to evaporation does make a difference. Even if you don't pay for it
in most parts
of the educated world, efforts are being made to conserve water where
you can. So is it that unreasonable to water a lawn before dawn to
reduce evaporation?




Everyone seems to try to better the last person’s comments.



Including you, numbnuts who added nothing so far.



I have trained green and grounds men for years, regardless of what
anyone says, some one always knows better. *I always tell my class
"Advice comes cheap, but you have to pay for experience".


I'm sure if they got as much info from you as the OP asking the
question, they are still clueless.




Old Wellies 05-06-2011 12:41 PM

Amazing Mr Trader. You know so much. Especially on saving water and things. Can we post you off to Africa? What is cheaper turf or water? Before you answer and rattle on about scales of economy and saving factors read the post again.

You sir would not last 5 seconds in the real world of making money as a business when only results are paid for.



Everyone seems to try to better the last person’s comments.



Including you, numbnuts who added nothing so far.



I have trained green and grounds men for years, regardless of what
anyone says, some one always knows better. *I always tell my class
"Advice comes cheap, but you have to pay for experience".


I'm sure if they got as much info from you as the OP asking the
question, they are still clueless.[/quote]

[email protected][_2_] 06-06-2011 05:16 PM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
On Jun 5, 7:41*am, Old Wellies Old.Wellies.
wrote:
Amazing Mr Trader. *You know so much. Especially on saving water and
things. *Can we post you off to Africa? *What is cheaper turf or water?
Before you answer and rattle on about scales of economy and saving
factors read the post again.

You sir would not last 5 seconds in the real world of making money as a
business when only results are paid for.

-
Everyone seems to try to better the last person’s comments.-

Including you, numbnuts who added nothing so far.



Actually, I take that back. You did add this one gem:

"Keep the turf wet. Water as much as possible. If layed correct, it
will recover. "

Let;'s say I took your advice. I have a sprinkler system capable
of delivering 1/2" an hour. So, according to you, I should run
it 24/7 and put down 12" of water a day. See a problem with that,
regardless of the cost of water or any need to conserve?












-

I have trained green and grounds men for years, regardless of what
anyone says, some one always knows better. *I always tell my class
"Advice comes cheap, but you have to pay for experience".-

I'm sure if they got as much info from you as the OP asking the
question, they are still clueless.

--
Old Wellies


Y

Eggs Zachtly 07-06-2011 12:58 AM

Help me rescue my new lawn
 
I'm tellin' ya man. Ditch Google for a newsreader, and k/f gardenbanter and
google. The signal to noise ratio improves, dramatically. =)

--

Eggs

-A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence.

Old Wellies 07-06-2011 09:43 AM

My little friend, I thought you had gone to Africa there for a moment trader.

I think you do need everything explaining to you in more detail. You and your little imaginary hose pipe.

If you make a coffee do you fill the cup until it over flows?
When driving your car, do you keep the throttle down until you hit something? That’s the gas pedal before you ask.

Like I said, I deal with people in the class like you. “Thickies” we call them in the UK.
Do people always have to explain everything to you in fine detail? If I asked you to keep something wet as possible you think it means drowned it until it washes down the road. How about keep it dry as possible then, would set fire to it?

I go to the gym as much as possible. I don’t go every day all day until I drop. Its called common sense, and it’s not common with you. I will try and explain in fine detail for you in future trader, now I know you have leaning difficulties.
I think a village is missing an idiot near you. I knew you could not resist the word conserve. You just could not help yourself.
Well I think your conserving a little too much with your toilet visits, maybe this is why you are so full of it.





Quote:

Originally Posted by [_2_] (Post 925823)
On Jun 5, 7:41*am, Old Wellies Old.Wellies.
wrote:
Amazing Mr Trader. *You know so much. Especially on saving water and
things. *Can we post you off to Africa? *What is cheaper turf or water?
Before you answer and rattle on about scales of economy and saving
factors read the post again.

You sir would not last 5 seconds in the real world of making money as a
business when only results are paid for.

-
Everyone seems to try to better the last person’s comments.-

Including you, numbnuts who added nothing so far.



Actually, I take that back. You did add this one gem:

"Keep the turf wet. Water as much as possible. If layed correct, it
will recover. "

Let;'s say I took your advice. I have a sprinkler system capable
of delivering 1/2" an hour. So, according to you, I should run
it 24/7 and put down 12" of water a day. See a problem with that,
regardless of the cost of water or any need to conserve?












-

I have trained green and grounds men for years, regardless of what
anyone says, some one always knows better. *I always tell my class
"Advice comes cheap, but you have to pay for experience".-

I'm sure if they got as much info from you as the OP asking the
question, they are still clueless.

--
Old Wellies


Y


Robby1 12-06-2011 11:24 PM

The dry weather will have a negative affect but don't worry to much. Is the soils underneath hard? If it is the turf can only rely on what it can hold and in the unseasonal weather won't hold much water. To be fair what I would do is replaced the affected area. Before laying the new turf I would check the soil to make sure it absorbs rain and water. If it doesn't then I would dig I few inches and replace with half sharp sand and composed. Hope this helps


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