Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old 16-02-2012, 12:54 AM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: Nov 2011
Posts: 16
Default Corn Gluten Meal as a preemergent against weeds - llll


Well, the clock is ticking. Pretty soon it'll be time to apply preemergent
herbicide. I only use organic, natural products on my lawn ever since I
had a horrible experience with some synthetic herbicides--and since
synthetic chemicals kill the soil's natural, microscopic life like the
beneficial bacteria and fungi that your grass depends upon to grow
strong. Who wants weed-free grass if your grass isn't strong.

Here's a copy of world-renowned Doctor Nick Christians' instructions for
the use of Corn Gluten Meal (CGM) as a preemergent herbicide. Dr.
Christians discovered the preemergent qualities of CGM. Thank you Dr.
Christians!

From:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...h?sclient=psy-
ab&hl=en&site=&q=cache:GKgkaWn2MY0J:http://www.7springsfarm.com/
HOWTOUSECORNGLUTENMEAL.pdf+nick+christians+corn+gl uten+meal&ct=clnk

HOW TO USE CORN GLUTEN MEAL

NICK CHRISTIANS

Iowa State University

Corn gluten meal works by inhibiting the root formation of germinating
plants. It generally does not inhibit the roots of mature plants or
transplants until your [sic] reach very high rates (80 pounds/1000 ft2 or
higher). It should be applied before germination of the weeds. The weed
will germinate and usually forms a shoot, but does not form a root. After
germination, a short drying period is needed to kill the plants that have
germinated but have not formed a root. Timing is critical. If it is too
wet during germination, the plants will recover and form a root. (This is
also true of chemical preemergence herbicides).

It is preemergence only, there is no postemergence effect on established
weeds. In fact, it makes a great fertilizer for germinated weeds.

If it does not rain in 5 days of application, water it in with
approximately 0.25 inches of water. Then leave a drying period after
germination.

It will usually work for about 5 to 6 weeks following germination.

[ZoysiaSod's Note: Not sure but maybe Dr. Christians meant to say
"following application"--not "following germination?" Or maybe he
absolutely meant to say "following germination." It's hard to say.
Consider the following passage from Paul Tukey's Organic Lawn Care Manual
(Page 179), especially the sentence I highlighted below:


"....[CGM] must be on the ground two to three weeks prior to the expected
germination of the target weed. For crabgrass in the North, that date can
vary from early April to early May, whenever the forsythia and daffodils
begin to bloom. For crabgrass in the South, the product should be applied
around mid-March, when the flowers open on dogwood trees. If your target
weeds generally emerge in different seasons from crabgrass, corn gluten
may be also be [sic] utilized at other times of the year....**The product
inhibits seed germination of all types and therefore cannot be used
within six weeks of overseeding a lawn.** That means that in any given
spring or fall, you will usually decide not to apply corn gluten but
rather to spread new grass seed."

Now consider this quote from David Mellor's Lawn Bible:

"[CGM] should be applied four to six weeks before the time the seeds
germinate."

By the way, Mellor's statement differs slightly from Tukey's "two to
three weeks prior."

So these three authors raise two different questions in my mind.]

Back to Dr. Christians, the discoverer:

Rates will vary depending on crop and target weed. I generally recommend
20 lbs product per 1000 ft2. This provides about 1 lb [sic: 2 lbs?] of
nitrogen per 1000 ft2. Some crops that are grown in rows can be treated
in bands in the row and weeds can be tilled between rows. This makes it
more economical to use in crop production. Test the material at rates
from 10 lbs/1000 ft2 in 10 pound increments to as high as 80 lbs/1000 ft2.

It does not work well with seeded garden crops unless they are seeded
deeply (radishes seem to be the exception and there may be others).
Transplants or mature plants generally work well. Some producers put down
a band, work it into the upper inch of soil, and then put the transplant
in the band.

In garden and crop production, growers generally work out their own
system, depending on their understanding of the crop they are growing and
the weeds they are trying to control.

The material is generally about 10% nitrogen by weight. One hundred
pounds has 10 lbs of nitrogen. [ZoysiaSod's note: "That's why I used
'sic' above after 1 lb."]

The nitrogen will release slowly over a 3 to 4 month period after
application.
  #2   Report Post  
Old 20-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Registered User
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: Mar 2012
Posts: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoysiaSod View Post
Well, the clock is ticking. Pretty soon it'll be time to apply preemergent
herbicide. I only use organic, natural products on my lawn ever since I
had a horrible experience with some synthetic herbicides--and since
synthetic chemicals kill the soil's natural, microscopic life like the
beneficial bacteria and fungi that your grass depends upon to grow
strong. Who wants weed-free grass if your grass isn't strong.

Here's a copy of world-renowned Doctor Nick Christians' instructions for
the use of Corn Gluten Meal (CGM) as a preemergent herbicide. Dr.
Christians discovered the preemergent qualities of CGM. Thank you Dr.
Christians!

From:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...h?sclient=psy-
ab&hl=en&site=&q=cache:GKgkaWn2MY0J:Home Page
HOWTOUSECORNGLUTENMEAL.pdf+nick+christians+corn+gl uten+meal&ct=clnk

HOW TO USE CORN GLUTEN MEAL

NICK CHRISTIANS

Iowa State University

Corn gluten meal works by inhibiting the root formation of germinating
plants. It generally does not inhibit the roots of mature plants or
transplants until your [sic] reach very high rates (80 pounds/1000 ft2 or
higher). It should be applied before germination of the weeds. The weed
will germinate and usually forms a shoot, but does not form a root. After
germination, a short drying period is needed to kill the plants that have
germinated but have not formed a root. Timing is critical. If it is too
wet during germination, the plants will recover and form a root. (This is
also true of chemical preemergence herbicides).

It is preemergence only, there is no postemergence effect on established
weeds. In fact, it makes a great fertilizer for germinated weeds.

If it does not rain in 5 days of application, water it in with
approximately 0.25 inches of water. Then leave a drying period after
germination.

It will usually work for about 5 to 6 weeks following germination.

[ZoysiaSod's Note: Not sure but maybe Dr. Christians meant to say
"following application"--not "following germination?" Or maybe he
absolutely meant to say "following germination." It's hard to say.
Consider the following passage from Paul Tukey's Organic Lawn Care Manual
(Page 179), especially the sentence I highlighted below:


"....[CGM] must be on the ground two to three weeks prior to the expected
germination of the target weed. For crabgrass in the North, that date can
vary from early April to early May, whenever the forsythia and daffodils
begin to bloom. For crabgrass in the South, the product should be applied
around mid-March, when the flowers open on dogwood trees. If your target
weeds generally emerge in different seasons from crabgrass, corn gluten
may be also be [sic] utilized at other times of the year....**The product
inhibits seed germination of all types and therefore cannot be used
within six weeks of overseeding a lawn.** That means that in any given
spring or fall, you will usually decide not to apply corn gluten but
rather to spread new grass seed."

Now consider this quote from David Mellor's Lawn Bible:

"[CGM] should be applied four to six weeks before the time the seeds
germinate."

By the way, Mellor's statement differs slightly from Tukey's "two to
three weeks prior."

So these three authors raise two different questions in my mind.]

Back to Dr. Christians, the discoverer:

Rates will vary depending on crop and target weed. I generally recommend
20 lbs product per 1000 ft2. This provides about 1 lb [sic: 2 lbs?] of
nitrogen per 1000 ft2. Some crops that are grown in rows can be treated
in bands in the row and weeds can be tilled between rows. This makes it
more economical to use in crop production. Test the material at rates
from 10 lbs/1000 ft2 in 10 pound increments to as high as 80 lbs/1000 ft2.

It does not work well with seeded garden crops unless they are seeded
deeply (radishes seem to be the exception and there may be others).
Transplants or mature plants generally work well. Some producers put down
a band, work it into the upper inch of soil, and then put the transplant
in the band.

In garden and crop production, growers generally work out their own
system, depending on their understanding of the crop they are growing and
the weeds they are trying to control.

The material is generally about 10% nitrogen by weight. One hundred
pounds has 10 lbs of nitrogen. [ZoysiaSod's note: "That's why I used
'sic' above after 1 lb."]

The nitrogen will release slowly over a 3 to 4 month period after
application.

For anyone who wants more information on the use of corn gluten meal in the UK call 01427 873294 where we would be more than happy to advise.
Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Corn Gluten Meal as a preemergent against weeds - llll ZoysiaSod Lawns 0 16-02-2012 12:55 AM
Corn Gluten Meal steven North Carolina 1 22-04-2007 07:38 PM
Corn Gluten Meal Jangchub Texas 0 25-11-2006 03:14 PM
Neem oil, Neem seed meal, Neem coir, coco peat, coir pots, bio compost, rock phosphate, steamed bone meal, Vermiculite [email protected] Plant Biology 0 29-06-2006 06:51 AM
Weed suppressors, was corn gluten meal question Nicole H Edible Gardening 0 24-01-2003 07:21 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:45 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 GardenBanter.co.uk.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Gardening"

 

Copyright © 2017