Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
Old 31-05-2012, 01:29 PM
Registered User
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: May 2012
Posts: 1
Default Pre-treating soil before turfing

Hi – I am a gardening novice and I would very much welcome some advice re laying some new turf.

Our back garden is very difficult to access (down steps etc). I have recently removed an area of stone chips (which were sitting on membrane) which was laid many years ago and we want to extend our existing lawn to cover this area. Unfortunately, the quality of the soil under this area is poor - only one weed has grown in the exposed soil it in nearly 3 weeks !

I know the ideal would be to remove 3” to 4” the existing topsoil and replace with new soil, but due to the access issues and the fact that this would means transporting perhaps 2 tones of soil off site and bringing 2 tones of new soil on site, this is a problem.

Is there some sort of soil treatment (via watering can, granules etc) I could apply to the existing soil to re-vitalise it before turfing, rather than having to remove it.

Many thanks for any help you can give.

Scooby 99

  #2   Report Post  
Old 31-05-2012, 04:36 PM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: May 2007
Posts: 749
Default Pre-treating soil before turfing

Scooby99 wrote:
Hi – I am a gardening novice and I would very much welcome some advice
re laying some new turf.

Our back garden is very difficult to access (down steps etc). I have
recently removed an area of stone chips (which were sitting on
membrane) which was laid many years ago and we want to extend our
existing lawn to cover this area. Unfortunately, the quality of the
soil under this area is poor - only one weed has grown in the exposed
soil it in nearly 3 weeks !

I know the ideal would be to remove 3” to 4” the existing topsoil and
replace with new soil, but due to the access issues and the fact that
this would means transporting perhaps 2 tones of soil off site and
bringing 2 tones of new soil on site, this is a problem.

Is there some sort of soil treatment (via watering can, granules etc)
I could apply to the existing soil to re-vitalise it before turfing,
rather than having to remove it.

Many thanks for any help you can give.


How do you know the soil is no good? No weeds means nothing if there were no
weed seeds.

You can certainly add compost and/or starter fertilizer before seeding.



  #3   Report Post  
Old 02-06-2012, 12:10 AM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: Mar 2011
Posts: 233
Default Pre-treating soil before turfing

On May 31, 11:36*am, "Bob F" wrote:
Scooby99 wrote:
Hi – I am a gardening novice and I would very much welcome some advice
re laying some new turf.


Our back garden is very difficult to access (down steps etc). I have
recently removed an area of *stone chips (which were sitting on
membrane) which was laid many years ago and we want to extend our
existing lawn to cover this area. Unfortunately, the quality of the
soil under this area is poor - only one weed has grown in the exposed
soil it in nearly 3 weeks !


I know the ideal would be to remove 3” to 4” the existing topsoil and
replace with new soil, but due to the access issues and the fact that
this would means transporting perhaps 2 tones of soil off site and
bringing 2 tones of new soil on site, this is a problem.


Is there some sort of soil treatment (via watering can, granules etc)
I could apply to the existing soil to re-vitalise it before turfing,
rather than having to remove it.


Many thanks for any help you can give.


How do you know the soil is no good? No weeds means nothing if there were no
weed seeds.

You can certainly add compost and/or starter fertilizer before seeding.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Agree. We can't see or evaluate the soil from here.
If it is poor, then how you improve it depends on what
it's lacking. Tilling in compost is never a bad idea, but
is a lot of work and if the soil is OK, not necessary.
  #4   Report Post  
Old 14-06-2012, 02:21 PM
Registered User
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: Jun 2012
Posts: 3
Question

Linking this to my post on yellowing lawn I am confused. Here people are saying it is an acceptable idea to add compost prior to turfing and yet from answers I have had it is suggested that compost in the soil that i added a year ago prior to turfing has initially striped out the nitrogen and resulted in poor growth and yellowing in the lawn. An explanation of the correct use / role of adding compost please ........... thanks
  #5   Report Post  
Old 14-06-2012, 05:12 PM posted to alt.home.lawn.garden
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: May 2007
Posts: 749
Default Pre-treating soil before turfing

Steveg wrote:
Linking this to my post on yellowing lawn I am confused. Here people
are saying it is an acceptable idea to add compost prior to turfing
and yet from answers I have had it is suggested that compost in the
soil that i added a year ago prior to turfing has initially striped
out the nitrogen and resulted in poor growth and yellowing in the
lawn. An explanation of the correct use / role of adding compost
please .......... thanks


Compost is good. Low N is not. So adding some N after adding compost may be
helpful.




  #6   Report Post  
Old 15-06-2012, 09:29 AM
Registered User
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: May 2011
Location: California
Posts: 271
Default

Your new turf will grow best when your soil is prepared in such a way as to encourage deep, rapid rooting. Turf needs just four things (in the proper proportions) to grow; sunlight, air, water and nutrients. Grass plants obtain three of these essential factors from the soil; air, water and nutrients. You must prepare your soil, the quality of the soil and its preparation will greatly affect the quality of the lawn. The correct depth of soil with the correct structure will ensure that the grass roots penetrate evenly and deeply. This will make the lawn more drought resistant, a more efficient water and nutrient user and will lead to a denser sward of grass plants which helps to crowd out weeds and gives a more visually appealing lawn. Poor soil and poor preparation will cause Turf to deteriorate over time.

To calculate how much turf is required, measure the length and width of the area to be turfed, multiply one by the other to give you the amount of rolls required. Measuring in meters is easiest as each standard roll of turf covers 1mē. Then add 5% for shaping etc. Using a proprietary non selective weed killer recommended for killing grasses, treat the existing lawn at the stated application rate. For full effectiveness you may have to leave this for approximately 14 days.

Remove the existing lawn using a turf cutter, which are available from all reputable hire shops. This will produce green waste which can be Composted, Put into a specific green waste skip, Taken to a local authority household waste recycling center which has facilities for recycling soil and turf. You need a minimum of 100mm (4"), ideally 150mm (6") of good soil (the deeper the better). The soil should be loosely turned over and free from surface stone, clods, other debris and perennial weeds.
__________________
Fruit Trees
  #7   Report Post  
Old 15-06-2012, 02:31 PM
Registered User
 
First recorded activity by GardenBanter: Jun 2012
Posts: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steveg View Post
http://www.vvio.info/jpg1Linking this to my post on yellowing lawn I am confused. Here people are saying it is an acceptable idea to add compost prior to turfing and yet from answers I have had it is suggested that compost in the soil that i added a year ago prior to turfing has initially striped out the nitrogen and resulted in poor growth and yellowing in the lawn. An explanation of the correct use / role of adding compost please ........... thanks
I am confused.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pre-treat weeds with soapy water before spraying weed killer? HomeGuy Lawns 36 15-07-2014 01:01 AM
Soil Preparation For Turfing CodeCruiser United Kingdom 3 04-11-2012 07:31 PM
Is my soil prepared correctly for turfing? helix Lawns 2 08-06-2012 10:05 AM
Treating houseplants before bring them indoors Phisherman[_1_] Gardening 11 16-10-2007 06:34 PM
Pre moist food before feeding?? MISSYMAGICGIRL Ponds (alternative) 1 06-05-2003 12:56 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:56 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Đ2004-2019 GardenBanter.co.uk.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Gardening"

 

Copyright © 2017