so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so bad when
you offered to take it out yourself?

"Die Dpammer !!!" wrote in message
...
ummm posts on top are more important then the what is replied to on the
bottom ....

Nice try....

Uh, no. Read any netiquette book on top-posting.

-Tim

"Bart" wrote in message
m...
Let's make you the owner of this tree.

So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all the
damage your tree is doing to my property,

Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots in
your lawn.

or would you rather let me pay to
have it removed?

No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to
compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of the
tree.

It is going to be gone, eventually.

Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully.

I feel I have a
perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard.

NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as tree
limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would have
any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant degree
would certainly kill the tree.

Are you one
of those tree huggers?

Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just
because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY
benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees in/near
their yard.

Don't you give a damn about your neighbors?

Rhetorical question -- doesn't deserve answer.

-Tim
This thing is a real problem. Not only to the value of my property, but
to
personal safety for both homes. I live in a high lightning strike zone.

DUH...

Bart

Tim Fischer wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
m...
But the roots are in my yard...

Yeah, that's how trees work. DUH.

-Tim

"Die Dpammer !!!" wrote in message
...
Oh jees, this guy must have just got his first tracer program LOL


Newbies.... can't kill'em, can't get through to em.

I'm hardly a newbie. I've been on the internet since 1994, and active in
this group, on and off, for at least five years.

-Tim

Tim Fischer wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
m...
Let's make you the owner of this tree.

So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all
the
damage your tree is doing to my property,

Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots
in
your lawn.

How about a crack in the foundation of the house? How about roof damage
from the sap? How about a destroyed sprinkler system?

or would you rather let me pay to
have it removed?

No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to
compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of
the
tree.

pfft... a different kind of tree could provide as much - with far less
damage to my property.

It is going to be gone, eventually.

Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully.

Wood bores and other insects will take it out sooner than that. One
lightning strike could have it falling on my house and killing someone.
I've already had to break off some dead branches.

I feel I have a
perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard.

NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as tree
limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would have
any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant degree
would certainly kill the tree.

oops...

Are you one
of those tree huggers?

Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just
because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY
benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees
in/near
their yard.

Nope. No benefit at all. Most folks in the neighborhood have removed their
giant pines because of lightening fears and liability problems.

Bart

Die Dpammer !!! wrote in message
...
so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so
bad when
you offered to take it out yourself?

It isn't bothering them.

Bart

Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a hole to
take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more
expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in, and
wait for it to die.

"Bart" wrote in message
...

Tim Fischer wrote in message
news:wxK8a.339125$vm2.257583@rwcrnsc54...
"Bart" wrote in message
m...
Let's make you the owner of this tree.

So, which would you prefer, Tim? Would you like me to sue you for all
the
damage your tree is doing to my property,

Sure. I'd like to see the judge that awards "damages" due to tree roots
in
your lawn.

How about a crack in the foundation of the house? How about roof damage
from the sap? How about a destroyed sprinkler system?

or would you rather let me pay to
have it removed?

No way, unless you want to give me thousands of dollars in addition to
compensate for the loss of value to my home, and my loss of enjoyment of
the
tree.

pfft... a different kind of tree could provide as much - with far less
damage to my property.

It is going to be gone, eventually.

Sure -- in a few hundred years, hopefully.

Wood bores and other insects will take it out sooner than that. One
lightning strike could have it falling on my house and killing someone.
I've already had to break off some dead branches.

I feel I have a
perfect legal right to destroy the roots that are in my yard.

NO. Read up on this you are incorrect. This is the same subject as
tree
limbs overhanging your property -- you can't remove them if it would
have
any chance of killing the tree. Removing roots to any significant
degree
would certainly kill the tree.

oops...

Are you one
of those tree huggers?

Absolutely not. But I don't see the need to remove a valuable tree just
because there's a few roots in the hard. Doesn't this tree provide ANY
benefits to you? Beauty? Shade? Windbreak? Most people LIKE trees
in/near
their yard.

Nope. No benefit at all. Most folks in the neighborhood have removed
their
giant pines because of lightening fears and liability problems.

Bart

Yak urine will do it. Buy a Yak and tie it to the tree.




Die Dpammer !!! wrote in message
...
so what is their reasoning for keeping the tree? why do they want it so
bad when
you offered to take it out yourself?

"John" wrote in message
...
Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a hole
to
take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more
expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in, and
wait for it to die.

I realize that you're not being serious, but this, too isn't legal. It's
illegal to kill a neighbors tree, even if done from your property.

In fact, this was the subject of an episode of "Dave's World". They wanted
to put in a pool, but it was going to kill their neighbor's tree, so they
had to get her permisison:
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...561/epid-24690
/

-Tim

Xref: 127.0.0.1 alt.home.lawn.garden:3564

It's only illegal if you get caught.....

"Tim Fischer" wrote in message
news:k9b9a.359013$be.332614@rwcrnsc53...

"John" wrote in message
...
Just tell them you're putting an underground swimming pool in. Dig a
hole
to
take out the roots. Add a little salt. Say, "Well, it's going to be more
expensive than I thought to build a swimming pool." Fill the hole in,
and
wait for it to die.

I realize that you're not being serious, but this, too isn't legal. It's
illegal to kill a neighbors tree, even if done from your property.

In fact, this was the subject of an episode of "Dave's World". They
wanted
to put in a pool, but it was going to kill their neighbor's tree, so they
had to get her permisison:

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...561/epid-24690
/

-Tim

I like to see happy trees, but I also agree that within reasonable
extent.

I don't see somebody bringing you to court, investigating the death of a
tree, or really making that huge of a deal about a huge tree like that
dying.

I don't know exactly what it takes to kill a tree, but they have
mentioned sal****er.

If I were you, I'd go buy plenty of salt.

Just back off of the whole tree thing with them, act like everything is
ok.

When it starts to die, they'll hire an arborist and pay tons of money to
get it removed.

Let them have it their way.

You can only try to be civil so many times.

=will=

"John" wrote in message
...
It's only illegal if you get caught.....

OK, so my neighbor puts in a swimming pool near my tree, after complaining
about my tree and asking to cut it down, and now my tree dies. I'm not
supposed to suspect any coincidence?

I think he'd be "caught".

-Tim

Perhaps the proper request would have been to ask how to turn the sap off.
Tieing a small loose chain aorund the base of the tree and
allow a small very busy dog to test the strength of the chain. The small
dog will get bigger and you may need to know just what size of chain to buy
as he or she gets older.

As time goes by Someone is going to think that pine tree is a fire hazard
and will beg you to cut it down.. Some neighbors may beg you or offer to do
it them selves.
Depends on your neighbors. Dont leave your dog unnattended some one may try
to rescue it for the dispicable person who would dare tie a dog to a tree.

"will" wrote in message
...
I like to see happy trees, but I also agree that within reasonable
extent.

I don't see somebody bringing you to court, investigating the death of a
tree, or really making that huge of a deal about a huge tree like that
dying.

I don't know exactly what it takes to kill a tree, but they have
mentioned sal****er.

If I were you, I'd go buy plenty of salt.

Just back off of the whole tree thing with them, act like everything is
ok.

When it starts to die, they'll hire an arborist and pay tons of money to
get it removed.

Let them have it their way.

You can only try to be civil so many times.

=will=

Bart wrote:
*I know this will not be a popular post and I will probably get
flamed all
over the place. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I've reached
the
point that I just don't care anymore.

My neighbor's huge pine tree (about 70' tall or more and about 3' at
the
base - right on the property line) is destroying my roof, my gutters,
my
yard, my pool, and my cars - possibly even my house. I've spent
hours
cleaning up the needles, the dead branches, and the cones - not to
mention
the damage it has done to the cars. I'm even suspecting that the
foundation
of my house has been cracked by a root from this tree as there is a
crack in
the concrete floor of one room which radiates directly from that
tree.
There are 2" roots all over my front yard.

The problem is that I like my neighbors and I don't want to sue them.
I
don't want to threaten them in any way. I don't want to cause any
unrest
between us. I just want to get rid of the damn tree.

They didn't plant the tree. We've both lived in our 30 year old
houses for
less than two years. So neither of us really knew what was happening
when
we purchased these places. That's one reason I really don't want to
come
down on them with legal action.

I've asked them politely. I've even offered to have it removed at my
own
expense - but they refuse. They don't feel the destruction because
the
prevailing wind blows all the stuff onto my property.

Now... with all the roots that are in my yard, it seems I should be
able to
drill a hole in some of them, apply an herbicide, and legally kill
the tree
without them knowing I did it. Are there any recommendations? *

I had the same problem. I wrote the neighbor and his insurance company
a certified letter. The letter stated that the tree was infested with
pine bettles (It wasn't, but it would be his experts word against my
experts word), and that if it fell on my house and caused damage it be
due to negligance and not "an act of god". The tree was cut the next
week. Good luck.


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In our state you don't have to ask to cut limbs over your property - it's
actually your reponsibility. I'd trim half the tree away for starters.

"Jethreo" wrote in message
...

Bart wrote:
*I know this will not be a popular post and I will probably get
flamed all
over the place. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but I've reached
the
point that I just don't care anymore.

My neighbor's huge pine tree (about 70' tall or more and about 3' at
the
base - right on the property line) is destroying my roof, my gutters,
my
yard, my pool, and my cars - possibly even my house. I've spent
hours
cleaning up the needles, the dead branches, and the cones - not to
mention
the damage it has done to the cars. I'm even suspecting that the
foundation
of my house has been cracked by a root from this tree as there is a
crack in
the concrete floor of one room which radiates directly from that
tree.
There are 2" roots all over my front yard.

The problem is that I like my neighbors and I don't want to sue them.
I
don't want to threaten them in any way. I don't want to cause any
unrest
between us. I just want to get rid of the damn tree.

They didn't plant the tree. We've both lived in our 30 year old
houses for
less than two years. So neither of us really knew what was happening
when
we purchased these places. That's one reason I really don't want to
come
down on them with legal action.

I've asked them politely. I've even offered to have it removed at my
own
expense - but they refuse. They don't feel the destruction because
the
prevailing wind blows all the stuff onto my property.

Now... with all the roots that are in my yard, it seems I should be
able to
drill a hole in some of them, apply an herbicide, and legally kill
the tree
without them knowing I did it. Are there any recommendations? *

I had the same problem. I wrote the neighbor and his insurance company
a certified letter. The letter stated that the tree was infested with
pine bettles (It wasn't, but it would be his experts word against my
experts word), and that if it fell on my house and caused damage it be
due to negligance and not "an act of god". The tree was cut the next
week. Good luck.


--
Jethreo
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