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Sam 18-05-2003 03:44 PM

grubs
 
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some grubs.
they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern ontario canada.
is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said you have to spray
them in april to get the first batch, and then spray in july to get second
batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for grubs?

SaM



Sam 18-05-2003 03:56 PM

grubs
 
is granular better than spray?

SaM



[email protected] 18-05-2003 07:20 PM

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"Sam" wrote:
is granular better than spray?

SaM

It's easier to apply. Either needs to be watered in asap.

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[email protected] 18-05-2003 07:20 PM

grubs
 
"Sam" wrote:
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some
grubs. they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern ontario
canada. is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said you have
to spray them in april to get the first batch, and then spray in july to
get second batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for grubs?

SaM

If your lawn isn't turning brown, you can leave this life cycle alone.
The next generation will be late summer, apply some merit in June.

It only works as a prevention,(won't kill large grubs). If you do this
every June, you can forget about having grub problems.

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[email protected] 18-05-2003 09:44 PM

grubs
 
wrote:
"Sam" wrote:
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some
grubs. they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern
ontario canada. is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said
you have to spray them in april to get the first batch, and then spray
in july to get second batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for
grubs?

SaM

If your lawn isn't turning brown, you can leave this life cycle alone.
The next generation will be late summer, apply some merit in June.

It only works as a prevention,(won't kill large grubs). If you do this
every June, you can forget about having grub problems.

BTW, Try to put down your Merit right before it rains.

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Peter H 19-05-2003 12:44 PM

grubs
 

"Sam" wrote in message
...
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some grubs.
they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern ontario canada.
is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said you have to spray
them in april to get the first batch, and then spray in july to get second
batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for grubs?

SaM



I had a lawn care business in southern Ontario for 11 years and I can tell
you that grubs are a complicated subject and made worse by our largest lawn
care company who treats them at their convenience and not when they should
be treated.

Grubs are the larvae stage of the June bug. In our area most are the
European Schaefer (sp?). They live as a grub for 3 years, then pupate into
June Bugs in late June/ early July. They fly, mate and then the females drop
eggs onto the lawn which hatch in the late summer and so the cycle
continues.

When treating an existing problem you should treat w/ diazinon or sevin and
only when they are feeding which is right about now through until late
September/October. A good kill rate for an existing grub problem, when using
the product according to it's label is about 50%, so you should count on a
few applications. Spraying in the rain is by far the best way to apply.

The best way to prevent a grub problem is w/ an application ( one only/
year ) of Merit in late June until the end of July. In Ontario, last time I
checked, Merit was only available to commercial operators, which seems a bit
crazy 'cause it's the safest insecticide on the market. I have found that
the success rate of Merit is almost 100%, but only as a preventative.

NB. Just 'cause you found a few grubs doesn't mean you have an infestation.
Your lawn can handle a minor grub problem. The real enemy is the raccoons
and skunks that come and dig up your lawn in the spring and fall looking for
the grubs. I have seen them turn a fine looking lawn into a plowed field
over night.

The only other tip I have for you is never use a lawn care company in Canada
that starts w/ the letter W. They will lie to you constantly.

Peter H



Hugh Jass 19-05-2003 10:20 PM

grubs
 


Peter H wrote:

Grubs are the larvae stage of the June bug. In our area most are the
European Schaefer (sp?).


it's chaffer. Good try, though.


[email protected] 19-05-2003 11:32 PM

grubs
 
Hugh Jass wrote:
Peter H wrote:

Grubs are the larvae stage of the June bug. In our area most are the
European Schaefer (sp?).


it's chaffer. Good try, though.

You'd have to look at their raster (grub butt) to be sure.

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Hugh Jass 20-05-2003 03:20 AM

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wrote:

You'd have to look at their raster (grub butt) to be sure.


I've been studying raster patterns for over 30 years. How do you think
I got my name?

Hugh Jass


[email protected] 20-05-2003 11:44 AM

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Hugh Jass wrote:
wrote:

You'd have to look at their raster (grub butt) to be sure.


I've been studying raster patterns for over 30 years. How do you think
I got my name?

Hugh Jass

DOH!

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H B Veeder 24-05-2003 03:20 AM

grubs
 
It is my understanding that the grubs are the larval stage of the Japanese
Beatle. The beetles lay the egg in the fall, which is the best time to try
and kill the larva then when they are small. They can also be attacked in
the spring, but they are larger and harder to kill.

Harold

"Peter H" wrote in message
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"Sam" wrote in message
...
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some

grubs.
they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern ontario

canada.
is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said you have to spray
them in april to get the first batch, and then spray in july to get

second
batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for grubs?

SaM



I had a lawn care business in southern Ontario for 11 years and I can tell
you that grubs are a complicated subject and made worse by our largest

lawn
care company who treats them at their convenience and not when they should
be treated.

Grubs are the larvae stage of the June bug. In our area most are the
European Schaefer (sp?). They live as a grub for 3 years, then pupate into
June Bugs in late June/ early July. They fly, mate and then the females

drop
eggs onto the lawn which hatch in the late summer and so the cycle
continues.

When treating an existing problem you should treat w/ diazinon or sevin

and
only when they are feeding which is right about now through until late
September/October. A good kill rate for an existing grub problem, when

using
the product according to it's label is about 50%, so you should count on a
few applications. Spraying in the rain is by far the best way to apply.

The best way to prevent a grub problem is w/ an application ( one only/
year ) of Merit in late June until the end of July. In Ontario, last time

I
checked, Merit was only available to commercial operators, which seems a

bit
crazy 'cause it's the safest insecticide on the market. I have found that
the success rate of Merit is almost 100%, but only as a preventative.

NB. Just 'cause you found a few grubs doesn't mean you have an

infestation.
Your lawn can handle a minor grub problem. The real enemy is the raccoons
and skunks that come and dig up your lawn in the spring and fall looking

for
the grubs. I have seen them turn a fine looking lawn into a plowed field
over night.

The only other tip I have for you is never use a lawn care company in

Canada
that starts w/ the letter W. They will lie to you constantly.

Peter H





Anita Bath 24-05-2003 03:32 AM

grubs
 


H B Veeder wrote:
It is my understanding that the grubs are the larval stage of the Japanese
Beatle............


Grubs are the laval stage of the Japanese Beetle (Ringo was a BEATLE),
the Green June Beetle, the Masked Chaffer, the European Chaffer and a
whole host of other hard shelled flying insects.

Anita Bath


Die Spammer 24-05-2003 11:56 AM

grubs
 
Grubs are the larvae stage of the June bug. In our area most are the
European Schaefer (sp?). They live as a grub for 3 years, then pupate into
June Bugs in late June/ early July. They fly, mate and then the females drop
eggs onto the lawn which hatch in the late summer and so the cycle
continues.


June bug? what about crane fly ? thought grubs were from crane fly ...


[email protected] 25-05-2003 07:20 AM

grubs
 
wrote:
"Sam" wrote:
i was planting some sod and digging the other day when i found some
grubs. they were white curled up into a ball. I live in southern
ontario canada. is it too late to spray for grubs? a guy at work said
you have to spray them in april to get the first batch, and then spray
in july to get second batch?

Is it too late to spray them now? how long will a spray last for
grubs?

SaM

If your lawn isn't turning brown, you can leave this life cycle alone.
The next generation will be late summer, apply some merit in June.

It only works as a prevention,(won't kill large grubs). If you do this
every June, you can forget about having grub problems.

BTW, it only disrupts the young grubs life-cycle. He grows old
real fast beacuse of molting.

Great on target control, earthworms are not affected.

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